1 posted on
06/05/2003 8:55:48 PM PDT by
UnklGene
To: UnklGene
No wonder, even as theyre being pounded senseless, many British crime victims are worrying about potential liability. look here, bozo. you touch my wife, I'll put a .45 through your skull. she's got a nice rock on her finger. I've got a nice glock on my hip.
dorothy, we ain't in london anymore.
2 posted on
06/05/2003 9:03:28 PM PDT by
glock rocks
(shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
To: UnklGene; Joe Brower; M Kehoe
Second Amendment BUMP
3 posted on
06/05/2003 9:08:40 PM PDT by
JulieRNR21
(Take W-04........Across America!)
To: UnklGene
Another great one from Steyn.
Is this a repeat?
To: UnklGene
Outstanding article.
5 posted on
06/05/2003 9:11:31 PM PDT by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: UnklGene
was leaving her house in East Anglia You know something is rotten in England if that could happen in East Anglia. That was the region of England where the Pilgrims came from. It still tends to be rather conservative, Cambridge notwithstanding.
6 posted on
06/05/2003 9:15:58 PM PDT by
Torie
To: *bang_list
BANG!
7 posted on
06/05/2003 9:19:31 PM PDT by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(There be no shelter here; the front line is everywhere!)
To: UnklGene; Pokey78
I think this is a new Steyn?
8 posted on
06/05/2003 9:20:08 PM PDT by
Notforprophet
(Everything is True. Even False things are True.)
To: UnklGene
"To a North Country Yankee its self-evident that, when a burglar breaks into your home, you should have the right to shoot him - indeed, not just the right, but the responsibility, as a free-born citizen, to uphold the integrity of your property."
I'm going to have to disagree with the eagerness with which Steyn shoots people. Call me crazy but I value life more than property. Even burglers are people, a-holes at that, but the taking of life over property (even stuff you work for) isn't worth it to me. I'm not saying I would let them go, but I wouldn't shoot them on sight like he's suggesting. What I do with the handcuffs otherwise is between me and the wife.
To: *bang_list
Steyn Bang!
10 posted on
06/05/2003 9:25:32 PM PDT by
Travis McGee
(----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
To: m1911; Pokey78
Steyn Ping
To: UnklGene
BIG PICTURE --- What has happened to make Britain abandon the concept of self-defense?? I do not understand this. It makes no sense...SSZ
28 posted on
06/05/2003 10:54:30 PM PDT by
szweig
To: UnklGene
This was posted on TheHighRoad a little while back. I never posted it here because it didn't have a source, but I'll add it to this thread for your consideration:
Wheelchair bound Brit arrested for self defense
I acted in self-defence says disabled robbery victim
A DISABLED man who used CS spray to fight off a robber is now facing the threat of legal action.
Wheelchair-bound Nicholas Ashworth, aged 22, sprayed his alleged attacker in the face with the CS spray.
He then climbed out of his wheelchair and limped across the road as the man screamed in pain. A passing police patrol spotted him in distress and stopped at the scene. Officers then arrested both men.
Today after being released on police bail pending further inquiries -- which could result in police prosecution -- Mr
Ashworth defended his use of the CS spray. He said he bought it to protect himself after being attacked in Bridgeman Street three weeks ago. On that occasion his attacker hit him in the face before pinning him back in his chair. The man then rifled through his pockets and stole £100.
Mr Ashworth, of Fletcher Street, Bolton -- who can walk just a short distance without his wheelchair -- said the incident left him feeling vulnerable.
Only days later he used it when a would-be robber confronted him as Mr Ashworth made his way to a nearby supermarket.
Mr Ashworth said the attacker held a knife at his throat and threatened to stab him. When he refused to hand over his money the man pushed him across the road and into bushes on the other side of the carriageway.
He said when he was threatened again he grabbed the CS canister and sprayed the man in the face.
He said: "I knew it was wrong and against the law but in my view I was acting in self defence. I thought the man was going to kill me.
"It is a sad state of affairs that disabled people like me have to carry such things like CS sprays for protection."
A police spokesman said that they were investigating the illegal use and possession of CS spray. He also revealed that a man was on police bail pending further inquiries into the attempted robbery of Mr Ashworth.
To: UnklGene
Conversely, up here in the New Hampshire second Congressional district, there are few laser security systems and lots of guns. Our murder rate is much lower than Britains and our property crime is virtually insignificant. Anyone want to make a connection? Villains are expert calculators of risk, and the likelihood of walking away uninjured with an $80 TV is too remote. In New Hampshire, a citizens right to defend himself deters crime; in Britain, the state-inflicted impotence of the homeowner actively encourages it.Great article by Steyn - thanks for posting it!
44 posted on
06/06/2003 5:59:11 AM PDT by
Amelia
To: UnklGene
bfl
45 posted on
06/06/2003 6:00:19 AM PDT by
oyez
(Is this a great country or what?)
To: UnklGene
In any society, criminals prey on the weak and vulnerable. Its the peculiar genius of government policy to have ensured that in British society everyone is weak and vulnerable - ...One of my favorite quotes in this article. So true!
62 posted on
06/06/2003 1:59:16 PM PDT by
NEWwoman
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