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Foam's Power Surprises NASA Official
Yahoo! News ^ | 6/4/03 | Marcia Dunn - AP

Posted on 06/04/2003 6:55:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Foam's Power Surprises NASA Official

By MARCIA DUNN, AP Aerospace Writer

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. -

The Columbia accident investigator in charge of a series of impact tests said Wednesday he is surprised by the incredible force with which a 1 1/2-pound chunk of space shuttle foam struck and deformed a fiberglass wing replica.

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NASA (news - web sites)'s Scott Hubbard said he expects even more damage when real shuttle wing parts — weaker and more brittle than fiberglass — are used for the next round of testing, beginning Thursday. He expects the actual pieces, removed from shuttle Discovery, to actually break.

"This moves us a lot closer to saying that the foam can do this kind of damage," said Hubbard, a member of the Columbia Accident Investigation Board.

The board suspects a similarly sized piece of fuel-tank foam insulation knocked the hole in the leading edge of Columbia's left wing that, two weeks later, let in scorching atmospheric gases and doomed the spaceship and its seven astronauts during re-entry.

In last week's test at the Southwest Research Institute in San Antonio, a piece of foam nearly 20 inches long was fired through a giant nitrogen-pressurized gun at more than 530 mph at a mock-up of the wing's leading edge. The fiberglass panels and seals were from the shuttle prototype Enterprise (news - web sites), which never flew in space.

The foam deflected the panel that was the bull's-eye and shoved and lifted an adjoining seal, Hubbard said. The foam shattered, and pieces of it crammed into the nearly half-inch gap created by the dislodged seal. The crevice — about 22 inches long — held its shape because of the foam stuffing.

"People's intuitive sense of physics is sometimes way off. You don't feel that this (foam) can do anything," Hubbard said. "But you fire this at 500 mph and there you saw it. I really did think,`Oh, my God, this is really an impact. This is a significant effect.' ... That's when it came home to me, what it really means."

The stress recorded in the May 29 test was up to seven times higher than expected and rippled across the panels, Hubbard said. But that peak force lasted just one-half of one-thousandth of a second, not long enough to break fiberglass, he noted.

It equated to a ton of force, all compressed into 60 or 70 square inches of fiberglass panels, Hubbard said. According to predictions, that is perhaps 70 percent more force than needed to break real leading edge pieces, which are made of reinforced carbon.

At Kennedy Space Center (news - web sites), meanwhile, the chairman of the Columbia reconstruction team gave a final news media tour of the 85,000 pounds of wreckage.

Mike Leinbach, who normally works as launch director, said the debris points to the breach as having occurred probably somewhere around the bottom of carbon panel No. 8 of the left wing's leading edge. The initial hole could have been in the panel itself or an adjoining seal; there is not enough evidence to know for sure, he said.

"The key here is how much is not here, versus how much is over on the right-hand side," Leinbach said, pointing to what little is left of the left wing. "Columbia held in there. She hung in there for a long, long time," he said, gazing at the scorched fragments on the hangar floor. "She tried to fly. She tried to come home."

Columbia was 16 minutes away from Cape Canaveral, Fla., when it shattered over Texas.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: columbia; foam; foampower; nasa; official; shuttle; surprises
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1 posted on 06/04/2003 6:55:03 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
Everyone in the flipping world knew that the enviroment friendly foam cause the accident days after the the incident. What is taking NASA so long to draw the same conclusion?
2 posted on 06/04/2003 6:57:59 PM PDT by BushCountry
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To: NormsRevenge
The Columbia accident investigator in charge of a series of impact tests said Wednesday he is surprised by the incredible force with which a 1 1/2-pound chunk of space shuttle foam struck and deformed a fiberglass wing replica.

Nice engineer they have in charge. There have been cases where objects in a car that are not even a 1/2 lb have killed occupants in 35 mph crashes. One was a tissue box that was 1/2 full which flew from the rear window and hit the driver in the back of the head/kneck and killed the driver. That was a 45 mph accident.

3 posted on 06/04/2003 6:59:06 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Soccer Mom's flee the Rats for Bush in his flight suit: I call this the Moisture Factor. MF high!)
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To: NormsRevenge
You can shoot a banana through a brick wall with enough velocity.
4 posted on 06/04/2003 7:01:04 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: big ern
The Air France Concorde needle-nose jet was taken out by a few ounces of rubber tire hitting the fuel tanks. Au Revoir.
5 posted on 06/04/2003 7:05:28 PM PDT by Reeses
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To: NormsRevenge
The Columbia accident investigator in charge of a series of impact tests said Wednesday he is surprised by the incredible force with which a 1 1/2-pound chunk of space shuttle foam struck and deformed a fiberglass wing replica.
Imagine the damage a 1 1/2-pound chunk of cheese could cause a a fiberglass wing replica. I'm thinking colby or a port wine cheddar. But even a bri wheel or camembert could cause some real damage.
6 posted on 06/04/2003 7:07:15 PM PDT by Asclepius (as above, so below)
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To: big ern
How true! A boom box killed a passenger here in a 45 mile car crash. Never knew what hit him.
7 posted on 06/04/2003 7:08:38 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (" If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.")
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To: Asclepius
The POWER of cheese.
8 posted on 06/04/2003 7:09:38 PM PDT by JOE6PAK (" If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.")
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To: NormsRevenge
Finally, a story that matches my tagline.
9 posted on 06/04/2003 7:10:50 PM PDT by tuna_battle_slight_return (Foam is good; foam saves lives.)
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To: TLBSHOW; Fred Mertz; Jael; fooman
Ping.
10 posted on 06/04/2003 7:10:54 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: BushCountry
I think that part of the answer is that the speed of the foam impact was at first severely underestimated. My own eyeball SWAG was 150 mph after watching the film clips - obviously quite wrong. It kept climbing, as each estimate was higher than the previous. Remember, the energy of the foam goes as the *square* of the velocity. so foam at 530 mph would have 12.5 times the energy of my 150 mph eyeball estimate.
11 posted on 06/04/2003 7:12:55 PM PDT by NukeMan
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To: NormsRevenge
I've always known the power of foam. I stay away from it all together. I won't let my toothpaste foam nor will I eat wipped cream. My family thinks I'm nuts but see, see how dangerous foam can be?
12 posted on 06/04/2003 7:15:34 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: NormsRevenge
Where are all the "science experts" who were here in the days right after the crash, pooh-poohing the very idea of the foam doing any significant damage and implying anyone who thought otherwise was just ignorant? Of course it could do damage, at those speeds it doesn't take much of anything to cause serious damage.
13 posted on 06/04/2003 7:22:24 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: KellyAdmirer
Yup. If it dings fiberglass, it will demolish silica tiles.. I shudder to see the results of next weeks real testing.
14 posted on 06/04/2003 7:30:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi .. Support FRee Republic)
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To: BushCountry
They've already reached that conclusion, more likely than not. The thing is, their investigation has to be completely thorough. They can't just say "Oh, it was the foam" and publish a report. It doesn't work that way. They have to explore every theory and, if possible, test every theory (which is what this story is about: they're testing the "foam destroyed the heat-resistant tiles" theory). Give 'em a break.
15 posted on 06/04/2003 7:31:51 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Asclepius
LOL. A hard cheese like Parmigiano Reggiano would be like depleted uranium!
16 posted on 06/04/2003 7:33:15 PM PDT by Constitution Day (Nasty Little Clique™)
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To: NormsRevenge
It equated to a ton of force, all compressed into 60 or 70 square inches of fiberglass panels, Hubbard said...

My 2/18/03 kinetic energy estimate is here. One way or another, a big jolt...

17 posted on 06/04/2003 7:36:46 PM PDT by SteveH
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To: NukeMan
Yeah we all got chastized by the relative velocity crowd.

.5mv^2
19 posted on 06/04/2003 7:56:38 PM PDT by fooman (Get real with Kim Jung Mentally Ill about proliferation)
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To: BushCountry
What is taking NASA so long to draw the same conclusion?

All of us morons, that make up the great unwashed, can't possibly make a correct assessment by simply viewing some video we saw on CNN or Fox.

Why, we're not paid millions of dollars to make those types of judgements and pronouncements. That is a skill that takes years of study and sucking at the Government teet to cultivate. Harumph, harumph.

20 posted on 06/04/2003 7:59:54 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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