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Homeowners taking out 10-year mortgages
Wall Street Journal ^ | June 2, 2003 | RUTH SIMON

Posted on 06/02/2003 4:23:28 PM PDT by Dog Gone

With mortgage rates setting new lows last week, a growing number of homeowners are doing something that was largely unheard of just a year ago: taking out 10-year mortgages.

It's part of a broader push by many borrowers to pay off their mortgages quickly by taking advantage of the lowest interest rates in more than 40 years. Some are baby boomers who want to get rid of their debt before they retire. Others are simply trying to save on interest costs by shortening their mortgages.

The interest savings on a 10-year mortgage are enormous. If someone borrowed $250,000 at 4.5 percent, the going rate at a major lender, the interest over the life of the loan would be only $60,915. By contrast, in the case of a homeowner borrowing that same amount for 30 years at 5.375 percent (longer-term loans typically carry higher rates), the interest would total $253,974.

The drawback, of course, is that your payments are higher in the short term. On that same hypothetical $250,000, the monthly payments would be $2,591 with a 10-year loan, compared with $1,400 for the 30-year loan.

At Countrywide Home Loans, a unit of Countrywide Financial Corp., 10-year mortgages now account for roughly 15 percent of mortgage loans. The volume of 10-year loans "was insignificant a year ago," says Doug Perry, first vice president of Countrywide Home Loans.

To spur demand, Countrywide has been sending direct-mail solicitations explaining the benefits of shorter loans to borrowers who are prepaying their existing longer-term mortgages.

Borrowers have been gravitating to 15-year mortgages from 30-year loans for some time. But the new 10-year loans are providing a fresh inducement even for people who have refinanced relatively recently.

Rich Schroeder, an account manager for a transportation company, took out a 15-year mortgage with a 6.5 percent rate last year. Now, he is switching into a 10-year, $116,000 mortgage with a 4.875 percent rate.

"I'm looking to get out from underneath the mortgage as quickly as possible," says Schroeder, who lives outside Detroit. The new loan will allow Schroeder to pay off his loan nearly four years earlier, while adding only $100 to his monthly payment. Schroeder says he considered refinancing four or five months ago, "but it wasn't worth making a move."

Earlier this year, the mortgage industry braced itself for a sharp decline in refinancing activity as the economy seemed poised to recover, which would drive rates up. Instead, the economy has remained soft, and fears of deflation have pushed rates to their lowest levels in decades.

The result is that refinancing activity is surging. The Mortgage Bankers Association recently boosted its estimate of 2003 mortgage volume to $3 trillion, up from last year's record $2.5 trillion.

Interest in the shorter loans is helping spur the latest round of refinancing. In April, U.S. Bank Home Mortgage introduced a 10-year fixed-rate mortgage that carries a lower rate than its 15-year mortgage; previously, the two mortgages carried the same rate.

"Our phone literally has been ringing off the hook," says Dan Arrigoni, president of U.S. Bank Home Mortgage, a unit of U.S. Bancorp.

Shorter-term mortgages of all types are gaining ground. At GMAC Home Finance, a unit of General Motors Corp., 15-year mortgages accounted for nearly half of recent refinance loans. Last year, about 20 percent of GMAC customers who refinanced opted for a 15-year mortgage. Chase Home Finance, a unit of J.P. Morgan Chase, says 15-year mortgages now account for about 20 percent of the loans in its pipeline, up from 15 percent six months ago. More borrowers also are refinancing their 30-year mortgages into 20-year and 25-year loans, lenders say.

On Tuesday, rates on 30-year fixed-rate mortgages averaged 5.51 percent, while 15-year fixed-rate loans averaged 4.95 percent, according to HSH Associates, financial publishers in Butler, N.J.

Mortgage rates could drop even further if the economy shows further signs of weakness. Mortgage rates typically track rates on Treasury bonds.

Of course, many homeowners aren't interested in shorter mortgages. Instead, they are using the low rates to lower their monthly payments. Or, they are taking cash out when they get a new mortgage.

Indeed, short-term mortgages aren't for everybody. Borrowers are committing to a higher payment for the life of the loan. If a homeowner's income drops, she will still have to make that steeper payment.

You can achieve some of the same benefits of shorter-term mortgage simply by taking out a 30-year mortgage and making extra principal payments. Pinched for cash? Make the minimum payment. One hitch: You typically won't get as low a rate on a 30-year mortgage as on a shorter-term loan. And many find it hard to stick with this self-imposed mortgage prepayment strategy.

In addition, people taking out a 10-year mortgage will quickly whittle away one of their biggest tax breaks: the deduction for mortgage interest. Principal payments aren't tax deductible. In the first year, the interest deduction for a 10-year mortgage at 4.5 percent is only about a fifth smaller than a 30-year mortgage at 5.375 percent. But by the fifth year, a borrower in the 27 percent bracket would see the deduction cut almost in half, calculates PricewaterhouseCoopers.

Borrowers don't always get a break for taking a shorter-term mortgage. Twenty-five-year loans are typically priced at the same rate as 30-year mortgages. Likewise, Bank of America Corp. offers the same rate on 10-year and 15-year loans. As a result, the bank says its customers are more likely to take out a 15-year mortgage and pay it off early if they are inclined.

Still, for many borrowers, a shorter-term loan has clear benefits. It allows homeowners who are several years into their current mortgage to take advantage of low rates without stretching out payments for another 15 or 30 years.

Don Genereux, an elementary school principal in Minneapolis, is replacing his $88,000 fixed-rate mortgage, a $25,000 home equity loan and some high-cost debt with a new $115,000, 10-year fixed-rate mortgage with a 4.375 percent rate. The new loan will boost Genereux's monthly mortgage payment by about $15 but cut his total borrowing costs by about $500 a month. Genereux, 55 years old, says he was already five years into his 15-year mortgage and didn't want to extend his loan further. "We're looking at retirement and change of career," he says. "We need to have a light at the end of the tunnel."


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To: Mannaggia l'America
But if you're house is paid off, why can't you just borrow against it?
81 posted on 06/02/2003 6:53:03 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Mannaggia l'America
This is a Vey Vey Sirous Thread!

Seriously There seem to be liquidity issues with both strategies If one hedges thier bets by doing a little of each of the dominant theories on this thread would that not be the prudent thing to do?

82 posted on 06/02/2003 6:54:29 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions, $1.00 Todays Special: Half Baked, 50 cents)
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To: Skywalk
Yep you own your house all right, just got laid off, your house's value went up and BAM your property taxes went up but instead of having a substantial cash or liquid reserve, ya gots zilch. I never said I was putting 100% of my income into my house payment. I simply said I was making the 15 year payments on a 30 year mortgage.
83 posted on 06/02/2003 6:55:24 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Dog Gone
"I'm seriously considering doing this. I have a 30 year note at 6.25 with 20 years to go."

An option with only about $70 in closing cost would be a 15 year Equity Loan @ 5.5%

84 posted on 06/02/2003 6:56:16 PM PDT by F16Fighter (Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
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To: mylife
I suppose it depends on your circumstance. As I said, if you're rolling in money, and your house isn't too much relative to your income, then why not pay it off sooner?

BUT, if you're normal, my guess is that it makes no sense to forego the advantages to the long-term approach.

85 posted on 06/02/2003 6:56:22 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Dog Gone
Have you considered just refinancing your mortgage as a 20 year? You'd have the same exact term, but you'd be paying at most 5.25%, more likely 5%. If you can stretch to a 15 year mortgage you get a lower interest rate and you may still end up paying less per month than you are now.

Forget the 10-year.

I've refinanced twice in the past three years. I'm only 26 and I've already gone from a 30-year when I bought a few years ago to a 20-year today. I can not encourage people strongly enough to check out a mortgage calculator with today's rates.
86 posted on 06/02/2003 6:56:44 PM PDT by HostileTerritory
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To: Fred Mertz
Okay, using the link I provided, figure out how much your monthly payment would be on a 30 year loan and how much it would be on a 10 year loan.

This will be easier if you open 2 or 3 browser windows. Then look at the first years interest on the 10 year loan and the first years interest on the 30 year loan.

If you made the 10 year payments on a 30 year loan, what is the difference in interest you paid in the first year alone?

87 posted on 06/02/2003 6:58:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
I don't know all your circumstances, so it'd be difficult to judge.

88 posted on 06/02/2003 6:58:10 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Texas Eagle
About $530 a month with a 10 year, plus whatever all the leechers that get a piece of the pie get out of me. I used 5% as a guesstimate. Thanks for the link, I think I bookmarked it from you or someone else not too long ago.

So I suppose I could afford a dollar a day to cut my time in serfdom from 20 years remaining on a 30 year loan, to 10 years. I really don't know what I've been waiting for.
89 posted on 06/02/2003 6:58:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Skywalk
I suppose it depends on your circumstance.

BINGO! Since we cant control circumstance...Hedge your bets!

90 posted on 06/02/2003 6:59:23 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions, $1.00 Todays Special: Half Baked, 50 cents)
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To: HostileTerritory
Hmmm, no wonder there are so many opinions about this. You can skin the cat in countless ways.
91 posted on 06/02/2003 7:00:53 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Skywalk
But you could just as easily lose your job in the 13th year of a 15 year note and have a higher payment to come up with than if you have a bad spot.

I may lose my job, or I may not. But one thing is for certain...if I don't refinance, I still have $90k of interest to pay. A refi will lower my rate 2 pts and increase my monthly payment by $66.00 and cuts my interest down to $40k. Yeah, I lose my interest deduction sooner, but so what? That means that $50k won't be going to service my debt. That's money in my pocket. My lost tax benefit is no where near that amount.

92 posted on 06/02/2003 7:01:43 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik
But this isn't about tax deduction though.

Your payments relative to your income and via inflation will be significantly cheaper the farther you go.

The more money is spent immediate to the time of borrowing, the closer to its real value. Which is high value cash that could be put elsewhere rather than the bank.

93 posted on 06/02/2003 7:05:44 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Dog Gone
WHATEVER YOU DO!

NEVER, NEVER, EVER CONSIDER WASHINGTON MUTUAL AS YOUR MORTGAGE LENDER.

I'M VERY SERIOUS, THEY HAVE NO CLUE WITH CUSTOMER SERVICE, HAVE NO ABILITY TO POST PAYMENTS PROPERLY, HAVE NO KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO READ A CUSTOMER'S STATEMENT; WILL NEVER RESPOND TO AN INQUIRY FROM A CUSTOMER.

I'VE BEEN IN A MAJOR BITCH SESSION WITH WASHINGTON MUTUAL FOR MANY MONTHS, THEM DECLARING FORECLOSURE, WHILE MY PAYMENTS HAVE BEEN HELD IN THEIR BLACK HOLE "SUSPENSE ACCOUNT - FULLY CURRENT" WHILE THESE A-HOLES CAN'T FIND THE ACCOUNT ACTIVITY.

!!!NEVER, NEVER, EVER, BE SERVICED BY WASHIGTON MUTUAL!!!!

((Craig Davis, President, are you listening??)

94 posted on 06/02/2003 7:07:01 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: Dog Gone
bump ... interesting
95 posted on 06/02/2003 7:08:29 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: Dog Gone
"Kinda thinking out loud as I'm typing, that's paying $50,000 early over 10 years to save $100,000, or a 200% return on my investment. Annualized, that's 20%,"

Actually it's a 100% return, which annualizes to a 7.18% return.

(Rule of 72.)
96 posted on 06/02/2003 7:09:04 PM PDT by Tauzero
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To: Fred Mertz
I used 5% on the 15 year as a guesstimate also.
I used 5.5% on the 30 year as a guesstimate.

I think that's reasonable.

Now, look at line 10 on the 10 year calculation window and look at line 30 on the 30 year calculation window.

Now looking at column 1 only, what is the difference between your total payments?

97 posted on 06/02/2003 7:10:14 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Texas Eagle
But if you're house is paid off, why can't you just borrow against it?

That's my point. What if interest rates are 10% or 15% when I need the money in 10 or 15 years? What if I have no job or lower income at that time and a bank won't lend me the money because I can't pay it back?

Let's say you have a house worth $250,000 and it is totally paid off. You lose your job. You now need $50K or $100K of that money. You can't get it - you won't qualify for the loan. But you say "it's my money"! No, it's not. It's your non-liquid asset.

If I would have been stashing some of that money away as cash instead of putting it all the house, I'd have some of that money to live on.

98 posted on 06/02/2003 7:10:46 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: Tauzero
If I invest 50,000 and make 50,000, that looks like a 100% rate of return to me. Or am I somehow not getting my 50,000 invested back?
99 posted on 06/02/2003 7:14:33 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mannaggia l'America
That's my point. What if interest rates are 10% or 15% when I need the money in 10 or 15 years? What if I have no job or lower income at that time and a bank won't lend me the money because I can't pay it back? Let's say you have a house worth $250,000 and it is totally paid off. You lose your job. You now need $50K or $100K of that money. You can't get it - you won't qualify for the loan.

But you can sell the house couldn't you? And if the house is totally paid off, whatever you sell the house for, all the money goes into your bank account. Whereas if you owe money on the house, you will only get what's left. Am I right?

100 posted on 06/02/2003 7:15:02 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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