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Mirror Falls Off Wall, Kills Child At Mall Clothing Store (posted 6/1/2003)
"Local 6" (A Florida Station) ^ | 6/1/03 | Local TV

Posted on 06/01/2003 5:30:00 PM PDT by 7 x 77

LINCOLNWOOD, Ill. -- Police in the Chicago suburb of Lincolnwood said a 5-year-old boy was killed in a freak accident when a large mirror fell off the wall of a shopping mall clothing store.

Officers said the accident occurred Saturday afternoon in the Express women's clothing store at the Lincolnwood Town Mall.

The victim was identified as Jonathan Villagomez. Police said he was at the store with his mother and other family members when the 5-by-12-foot mirror suddenly fell off the wall and hit him.

The mirror was attached to a "false wall" in the dressing room, area police told WMAQ-TV, .

Store and mall managers would not comment on the incident other than to say their "prayers are with the family."


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To: cardinal4
Its amazing what a six figure settlement will do for grief therapy.....

May you never lose a child and live to regret that witless and vulgar statement, even though you may well deserve to.

21 posted on 06/01/2003 7:02:06 PM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus
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To: cardinal4
Disagree with you respectfully of course. This is one suit that needs to happen. I love Express, but they were clearly negligent.
22 posted on 06/01/2003 7:03:42 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Copernicus
Be sure to thank a teacher.

Hey you stupid freak! Yes, you! A LOT of teachers in public school are VERY competent and do their jobs correctly. How dare you make an offhand comment like that? Some of us are harrassed mercilessly for our conservative views. Why don't you start talking about the wretched school boards, superintendents who think they are God-appointed kings, and irrational parents?

A LOT more teachers are trying to do the job right than many of you here believe. And, how much support do we get from the likes of you and some of the rest? NONE. When I've stood up for what is right in the classroom (telling them exactly what Bill Clinton was like when he FIRST ran for president) and getting shown the door...who stood up for me? No one. I could go on and on with examples of spineless people living in America who will not stand up for what is right and want to blame everyone else. However, I believe I'll go read a reasonable thread where you are NOT posting.

23 posted on 06/01/2003 7:08:41 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: ladyinred
This is one suit that needs to happen. I love Express, but they were clearly negligent.

Care to point out where/why and how?

It looks like a wall fell to which a large mirror was attached - placing it into a slightly different domain than simpy in Express's or Express's employees' lap ...

24 posted on 06/01/2003 7:13:51 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus
I meant no disrespect. And I would never wish death on YOUR child. I should have included a sarcasm tag, because I was being sarcastic. My point was, people automatically seek money when a tragedy occurs, instead of maybe family or the church. I have been flamed before but never had harm wished upon one of my kids so a poster can prove a point....
25 posted on 06/01/2003 7:22:18 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: ladyinred
I meant no disrespect. I was being sarcastic..
26 posted on 06/01/2003 7:23:11 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: giotto

Actually it should have been tempered. Commerical glass is tempered and it's very tough. It also should have been tied into the wall studs. (or what passes for them in a commerical building)

I also wonder if they poor tyke didn't do somethign to cause this to happen.

Not that it makes what happened okay, because the mirror should have been mounted more securely to begin with.

If little boys can knock it off the wall, it was only a matter of time anyway.

27 posted on 06/01/2003 7:26:55 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Copernicus
I take your "thank a teacher" remark very personally. I have been a teacher for 25 years, and I do not appreciate that kind of treatment here.
28 posted on 06/01/2003 7:27:01 PM PDT by Pardon Me
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To: Jhoffa_
If little boys can knock it off the wall, it was only a matter of time anyway.

Are you people reading further down in the thread to get the whole story?

29 posted on 06/01/2003 7:28:42 PM PDT by _Jim (http://www.biomedcentral.com/news/20030320/09/)
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To: _Jim
Yeah, now I am seeing that an entire wall may have fallen..

Same story. It should have been secure. I bet the wall was intended to support it's weight only, was added and then the mirror added later.

Both the store and the contractor who did the build out are going to hang for this.

30 posted on 06/01/2003 7:33:11 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
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To: Pardon Me
I think he meant: "Thank a Teachers' Union"
31 posted on 06/01/2003 7:33:32 PM PDT by StatesEnemy
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To: 7 x 77
Police say there is no indication that this was an act of terrorism at this time.
32 posted on 06/01/2003 7:35:31 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
"Why don't you start talking about the wretched school boards, superintendents who think they are God-appointed kings, and irrational parents?"

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pinging Gummy who is a great teacher too!

33 posted on 06/01/2003 7:36:12 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8 (Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
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To: 7 x 77
Unless the store has film of the child abusing the area and causing the mirror to fall - we're talking LAW SUIT - BIG TIME!!!
34 posted on 06/01/2003 7:41:37 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
I could go on and on with examples of spineless people living in America who will not stand up for what is right and want to blame everyone else.

I have long supported the immediate abolition of the Soviet Socialist Indoctrination Camps known as Public Schools.

For some reason, I get very little support from Teachers or Teachers Unions.

I'll be sure to read your post to some children of my acquaintance and ask if they know of any teachers who set the example you just set in your message. I suspect they will be able to name more than a few.

Oddly, when I suggested the mirror be set to proper technical specifications the children,uh,installation crew had a reaction quite similar to yours. They have been taught well.

Best regards,

35 posted on 06/01/2003 7:46:04 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: Ronaldus Magnus; cardinal4
Thanks for replying to the above callous individual. I was so taken aback by his reply that I couldn't respond. You so eloquently did so.
36 posted on 06/01/2003 7:51:45 PM PDT by MadelineZapeezda
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To: MadelineZapeezda
Thank you, I have been insulted before on this forum, but never like that.
37 posted on 06/01/2003 7:52:32 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: Copernicus
I could go on and on with examples of spineless people living in America who will not stand up for what is right and want to blame everyone else.

I'm sure you can. I am not defending incompetent public school teachers OR officials. But to make a generalization like that without solid evidence that it applies to the majority makes you the one who needs an adjustment.

If you knew my story and the level of my teaching you WOULD APOLOGIZE! Tell you what, you send an e-mail to the poster with the name Brian_Mosely (I think that's how he spells it) and ask him about me. He won't tell you my name, but he can tell you whether or not I am shooting a line of bull. He can research the whole story for the time I spent teaching school in his area. You do that! Then, come back and respond to my posts. It is one thing to suffer insults from ignorant people whose children one is trying to teach. It is, however, adding injury to the insult to suffer disparaging comments from a member of one's own conservative group that should be more knowledgeable and well-educated than to make such inane statements.

38 posted on 06/01/2003 7:53:48 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: Pardon Me
I take your "thank a teacher" remark very personally. I have been a teacher for 25 years, and I do not appreciate that kind of treatment here.

I believe your colleague in Post #23 made my point.

Perhaps you would like to take issue with him/her.

The excellent teachers I know have all found work in the free market of private schools, tutoring or some other line of work entirely.

Since my remarks were directed at Public School Teachers I know they could not have possibly included you.

Best regards,

39 posted on 06/01/2003 7:55:37 PM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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To: StatesEnemy
I think he meant: "Thank a Teachers' Union"

Perhaps he did. And if so, should specifically state it. I have NEVER joined a teachers' union and don't intend to. To lump those of us who have suffered job loss over standing up for what is right simply will NOT tolerate those kind of statements anymore. I will NOT tolerate it any more.

40 posted on 06/01/2003 7:56:38 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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