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Eric Rudolph Captured
CNN | May 31,2003 | Vinnie

Posted on 05/31/2003 5:02:27 AM PDT by Vinnie

CNN is reporting that Eric Rudolph has been captured in Murphy, North Carolina


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: Georgia; US: North Carolina; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abolition; abortion; atlanta; atlanta1996; captured; domesticterrorism; ericrudolph; fbi; gay; homosexual; jewell; northcarolina; oldnorthstate; olympicpark; olympicparkbombing; olympics; turass
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To: CFC__VRWC
My dad went for the Grandfather area and it was free for me so I'm not whining.

Lots of folks from my homestate of Mississippi hang in Highlands.

In Grandfather, in the summer the big draw is South Florida Jews and some folks from The Piedmont and Charlotte.....Jacksonville too.
641 posted on 05/31/2003 4:43:09 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: TommyDale
"Nobody said he didn't. I'm not saying Rudolph didn't do the things he is suspected of, but that there are other possibilities. People on this forum are convicting him before he even goes to trial! Is this America or not? Does the Bill or Rights exist? Does he not receive a fair trial? Oh, the FBI says he did it, so he MUST be guilty. After all, they NEVER make mistakes, do they? "

If you spend much time at all on here you will see that anyone who is charged of a crime that hits news get's charged as guilty or innocent by Freepers before trial. That is where debate comes in. It's fun to politely debate the issue for and against a person until the actual trial takes place and we see the result. No one is forced to participate int he debates and everyone is allowed to have an opinion on guilty/notguilty judging by what they've read. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that since there is little chance the jury is going to consult this forum when making their guilty/nonguilty judgement.

Long story short: we aren't the judge or jury so we can call him guilty or innocent as much as we want and defend it which whatever we can.
642 posted on 05/31/2003 4:43:44 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: armed_in_sydney
Don't know much about them aside from the "Halls".
643 posted on 05/31/2003 4:45:23 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: billbears
Good luck.
644 posted on 05/31/2003 4:46:00 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
One man's terrorist is another man's crusader

That doesn't ensure both comments are of equal validity.

He is either innocent or he is a terrorist. There's no crusader fit here.

645 posted on 05/31/2003 4:46:29 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: honeygrl; wardaddy
I really don't support this guy, I absolutely hate the Christian Identity teaching. I am really not supporting his actions, but I wonder what really should be done.? Just because slavery, or genicide are legal in some places doesn't make it right to do nothing.

What would our founding fathers have done? They went to war with their own government over much less than the slaughter of precious children.They were not the majority, but only a small number.

What should have the Germans citizens done?

Please answer these 2 questions if you would?
646 posted on 05/31/2003 4:51:08 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: honeygrl
the guy was wrong to kill people if they prove he also bombed places other than abortion clinics (one in which an innocent cop was killed from what I've been reading)

I'm not ambivalent about that as you just so well stated.

647 posted on 05/31/2003 4:51:14 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: ArneFufkin
It was intended as a platitude or a cliche Arnie...not a mantra.
648 posted on 05/31/2003 4:52:16 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: honeygrl
Long story short: we aren't the judge or jury so we can call him guilty or innocent as much as we want and defend it which whatever we can.

We can call him guilty or innocent BECAUSE we aren't the judge or jury.

The guy's been a fugitive from several highly profiled terrorist/murder indictments for 8 years. This is a tough one. He's guilty.

649 posted on 05/31/2003 4:52:49 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: Delphinium
I know what you are saying. Defending CI or the killing of noncombatants in any conflict is tough going morally.
650 posted on 05/31/2003 4:53:48 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: wardaddy
I have been in as heated debates as this on FR with people who bad mouthing Jews.

I have several issues, Life is just the most important to me. You can't have liberty without life first.
651 posted on 05/31/2003 4:56:52 PM PDT by Delphinium
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To: honeygrl; Catspaw
~~~In this case, I think I'm going to be a follower and do what you just said as well. When the pro-life movement turns to terrorism as a way to solve the problem, I won't have any part of it. Keep the fight legal.~~~

Add me to that list!
652 posted on 05/31/2003 4:57:33 PM PDT by justshe
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To: wardaddy
Sorry, this guy has always bugged me. Ambush bombs. He's a cold blooded coward. Seven years he's run and hid and who knows what else. Any Blue Ridge locals missing?
653 posted on 05/31/2003 4:57:38 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
One man's terrorist is another man's crusader

That doesn't ensure both comments are of equal validity.

He is either innocent or he is a terrorist. There's no crusader fit here.


Excellent post, Arne. It IS that clear to me too.

654 posted on 05/31/2003 5:03:32 PM PDT by justshe
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To: Delphinium
I'm pro life. I would use any means to stop you from murdering my countrymates by hiding a bomb at a festive gathering or in an Abortion Clinic parking lot. Any means.
655 posted on 05/31/2003 5:07:55 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: mountaineer
I just checked two such forums..

How can you do that? Your nick implies that you spend a lot of time in the clean, fresh air of the mountains. How can you come back from that and then stalk around in the dank, smelly and unhealthy grounds of rejected Freepers?

656 posted on 05/31/2003 5:12:05 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon
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To: Catspaw
However, if you want to glorify Rudolph because he bombed abortion clinics, go right ahead.

There you go again. You are so full of crap.

I think he should be tried and if convicted penalized with the harshest penalty available, including capital punishment if applicable.

Just because the original poster pointed out the hypocrisy of the bib deal made over this one murderous SOB when thousands of innocents are "legally" murdered in the womb daily does not mean he was glorifying Rudolf.

He was simply pointing out the insidious hypocrisy of those who think someone like Rudolf is somehow worse than an abortionist.

Rudolf murdered two, illegally. Abortionists murder thousands, but "legally."

Both are scum deserving of the harshest condemnation of society and the maximum sentence of the courts.

657 posted on 05/31/2003 5:16:19 PM PDT by Polycarp ("He who denies the existence of God, has some reason for wishing that God did not exist")
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To: CaptIsaacDavis
Funny thing -- the most "fanatic" devotees of political terrorism, who left 60 million dead in the 20th century, were ATHEISTS (communists). That stat coms from the "Black Book of Communism" by the way...

So what's your point? Atheists did it so it's okay if religious fanatics do it too? Is this another version of the "everyone does it" defense?

658 posted on 05/31/2003 5:18:15 PM PDT by CometBaby
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To: Polycarp
He was simply pointing out the insidious hypocrisy of those who think someone like Rudolf is somehow worse than an abortionist.

One is performing a legal medical procedure, and the other is a cold blooded, ambush murderer.

That's an act of terror. You kill innocent Americans, you choose death. That'll give you vicarious martyrs a stiffy.

659 posted on 05/31/2003 5:22:23 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
One is performing a legal medical procedure

Killing Jews was legal too, were Americans right to intervere?
660 posted on 05/31/2003 5:25:16 PM PDT by Delphinium
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