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NEA Teacher's union HATES tax cuts (except for them)

Posted on 05/30/2003 11:25:32 AM PDT by Gopher Broke

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To: Gopher Broke; *Education News
HOPE FOR AMERICA: Growing Non-Union Teacher Associations Provide Alternatives to NEA and AFT

The Union That Killed Education ( see reply 29 )

41 posted on 05/31/2003 12:03:38 PM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a monthly donor)
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To: leadpencil1
The NY State Legislature has a bill (probably not going anywhere) to raise the drop-out age to 18. They could raise it to 25, and it wouldn't make a damn bit of difference.

New York City is a lost cause, and the new chancellor's reading and math curricula aren't going to help either. Nothing is going to straighten out NYC public schools. The union is too strong.
42 posted on 05/31/2003 12:16:29 PM PDT by ladylib
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To: Gopher Broke
The House bill imported from the "No Child Left Behind Act' the definition that requires all teachers to have a degree or pass a subject matter test in each academic subject they teach.

Nice-sounding idea but beside the point and in the end a waste of effort. It shouldn't be the government that decides who is qualified to teach. It should be the parents, via school choice. That's what we should hammer away every day: choice, choice, choice. There's no place for the NEA to hide when the issue is choice.

43 posted on 05/31/2003 3:49:16 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: ladylib
The union is too strong.

I agree and I've come to the conclusion that compulsory unionism is a lost cause. The so-called "labor peace doctrine" is a hoax. At a minumum, a national right to work law should be passed. Better still, eliminate exclusive representation, which would leave unions as true voluntary associations.

44 posted on 05/31/2003 4:10:05 PM PDT by flim-flam
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To: flim-flam
Freepers....tell your teacher friends and family..there are good alternatives to the NEA Teachers Union.

These groups have lower rates, better liability insurance....WITHOUT the transfer of dues (without their permission) to the Democrat Party.

Click on the link for more information...

Christian Educators Assn.

Association of American Educators

45 posted on 05/31/2003 4:31:31 PM PDT by Gopher Broke (Abortion: Big people killing little people)
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To: Gopher Broke
I think the only way to break the Communist teachers unions is to separate school and state. We need to privatize education in America. Make education a priviledge, not a right.
46 posted on 05/31/2003 4:36:38 PM PDT by Sparta (Tagline removed by moderator)
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To: Gopher Broke
NEA is a liberal leftist POS.
47 posted on 05/31/2003 7:57:28 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Gopher Broke
Thank you for this. I've been teaching for almost 9 years now, and I never knew about these organizations. I see teachers getting sued everyday over the most benign things that they say or do in the classroom, and have a hard time not looking over my shoulder at students...or, lately, administrators. I will check these out, as I was considering joining NEA just to get the insurance, even though I loathe and detest everything that the group stands for.
48 posted on 05/31/2003 10:09:22 PM PDT by FLAMING DEATH
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To: Gopher Broke
Warning...if you are TOO conservative in your posts, they will block your IP address...trust me on that!

FE. Mine changes every time I turn my comp on. Trust me, I'm going to have some FUN!
49 posted on 06/01/2003 12:58:12 AM PDT by jwh_Denver
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To: ctlpdad
My wife is a school teacher and I personally do not like the NEA but she has to belong to it for the protection afforded over an attorney.
She also has to teach several courses in Elementary Education.
The NEA does not help with their salaries as one thinks but they take their dues and spend them on the Democrat Party to which we are opposed.
The average everyday American doesnt realize the way the political system works and how the legislators protect those who funnel campaign dollars to them.
There is an electric co-operative in my area and it gives political donations to the Democrats but none to other parties and I know all who are members are not Democrats.
There is a real need for election reform and term limits in this country. Politicians are nothing more than dictators and when it comes to looking out for the public their only interest is in their own a$$e$$ and their contributors.
Americas politics and governments have run amok and need reeling in.They all only know how to tax and add fees so they can spend with no accountability.
50 posted on 06/01/2003 4:53:50 AM PDT by gunnedah
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Who doesn't know that the NEA extorts moeny from teachers and brain washes millions of them to support the Democratic party, who in return gives the liberal teachers and unions kickbacks in the form of tax relief and perks while on the job? All this while the the fat cats at the top milk the tax payers for more and more money "for the kid's sake".

Did you know if a citizen volunteers to do work for the SD for free the unions will fight it , because it could be a paid job, and they view it as taking something away from someone. They don't care about the kids, they care about job security. Anyone who is a part of this sytem is wrong. Your wife needs to find an alnetnative, or start an alternative teaches group which offers insurance. I hear that from so many teachers , I have to admit it makes me mad.

Why not start a non-pfofit that offers insurance to teachers and gets charitable donations from the public. I bet you would find many who would pay to break the union stronghold.

If you aren't part of the soultion, you are part of the problem.

51 posted on 06/01/2003 5:37:07 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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To: Mister Baredog; Gopher Broke
Sobran has proposed a simple remedy:

The only citizens eligible to vote will be those who are NOT on the public's payroll.
52 posted on 06/01/2003 6:48:07 AM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: dennisw
True story:

A Wisconsin company was purchased by its employees through an ESOP. The employees were (mostly) represented by a union--but the management was not, as is typical.

The represented employees wanted a raise and the Board, which included a union steward, turned it down--the whole industry was in a recession, etc., etc.

The union struck and put the Company out of business.
53 posted on 06/01/2003 6:51:49 AM PDT by ninenot (Joe McCarthy was RIGHT, but Drank Too Much)
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To: ninenot
True story:

A Wisconsin company was purchased by its employees through an ESOP. The employees were (mostly) represented by a union--but the management was not, as is typical.

The represented employees wanted a raise and the Board, which included a union steward, turned it down--the whole industry was in a recession, etc., etc.

The union struck and put the Company out of business.

ROTFL

Obvious products of a poor education. I hope these unemployed ex-employees took some of their free time to go back to school and learn a little about business and how it works.

Somehow I doubt that happened, more likely they're working for the government in some way.

54 posted on 06/01/2003 7:32:49 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: No More Gore Anymore; gunnedah; All
"Your wife needs to find an alnetnative, or start an alternative teaches group which offers insurance."


The Association of American Educators is an alternative Professional Education Association she may be interested in.




The AAE offers an excellent Liability Insurance Plan. Click here for a list of AAE State Affiliates.


Please pass this information on to other teachers and students who are planning to major in education.

55 posted on 06/01/2003 9:20:08 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a monthly donor)
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To: gunnedah
Is the NEA active in SC? I dont think they are in my area of SC.....
56 posted on 06/02/2003 3:15:54 AM PDT by doosee
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To: No More Gore Anymore
regarding teachers unions, etc, ping me any time there is a debate, please.
57 posted on 06/02/2003 5:12:08 AM PDT by ctlpdad ("patco" the teachers unions)
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