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Making Children "Wards of the State"
Arkansas Publik Skulz ^
| 30 May 2003
| Margaret Brogley
Posted on 05/30/2003 7:00:59 AM PDT by steplock
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:00:59 AM PDT
by
steplock
To: steplock
Homeschooling, our local socialist's hate it :))
To: steplock
A report from the Committee for Economic Development in New York says part-day, part-school year preschool costs $4,000-$5,000 per child per year. Every four-year-old has been eligible in Georgia since 1995 for free, voluntary pre-kindergarten.
True double-speak!!!!! Free for only $5000.
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:07:13 AM PDT
by
aardvark1
To: billhilly; Vets_Husband_and_Wife; The Californian; kayak; homeschool mama; A_perfect_lady
Margaret Brogley PING!
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:08:27 AM PDT
by
steplock
( http://www.spadata.com)
To: steplock
Sociology SITREP
To: steplock
In California Rob (Meathead) Reiner is pushing this as a stepping stone to run for office.
It's not enough they have our kids all day long for 20 years. Now they want them as toddlers.
"Prepares them for kindergarten." Idiots. That's what kindergarten is for -- to prepare them for first grade.
The socialists won't stop until they own them from day one.
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:16:09 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: steplock
Liberals are evil.
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I was told by my daughter's principle that my younger gifted daughter could not skip kindergarten but could skip 1st grade, because kindergarten is sooooo important.
BULL.
This child knows everything her sister has been presented in kindergarten (the older one knew it all anyway) and will have done two years in preschool. I am truly stuck here. Homeschooling is looking better and better.
Give me back my tax money and let me choose how my children are educated. Nothing is free.
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:36:58 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
To: steplock
Yesterday, thanks to your post, I bookmarked the link to the source of this letter, and read it this morning.
While reading about this remarkable woman all I could think of was another woman, probably a decade older, who taught me, all of my brothers, and my sister. She taught seventh and eighth grade, and served as principal of a little four room, grades one through eight, school in far Western Kentucky.
Mrs. Zuanita Phelps (R.I.P.) left an indelible impression on each and every student, and their parents. In those days there was hardly a mention of money. There was none, but the teachers were dedicated and resourceful. I'll give one example. In eighth grade, Mrs. Zuanita made a large print, the size of a shoebox, of the word "ain't". She chose me to go out in the schoolyard and dig a hole large enough to bury a shoe box.
When I returned to the classroom she announced to the class that we were all going out to the schoolyard for a funeral. With much seriousness, she conducted a funeral for "ain't" and had us bury it in the shoe box. She then solemnly announced that "ain't" was dead and buried and that we were not to use it anymore. It worked. I'll never forget that lesson that occurred sometime around 1949.
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:40:37 AM PDT
by
billhilly
To: steplock
In Washington, DC, the city council tried to make preschool mandatory for children as young as 2 1/2.
Cooler heads prevailed.
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posted on
05/30/2003 7:41:49 AM PDT
by
ladylib
To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Prepares them for kindergarten." Idiots. That's what kindergarten is for -- to prepare them for first grade. The socialists own studies, done 50 years ago, prove that pre-school and kindergarten are useless for the purpose of preparing children for school. They proved conclusivly that by the second grade there was no difference whatsoever in student learning between a child who attended kindergarten and a child who did not.
Six-year olds learn so quickly that kindergarten is useless for preparing a child for school.
The only purpose of any kind of government school before first grade that I can see, is for indoctrination purposes. They sell it to parents as child care.
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posted on
05/30/2003 8:24:44 AM PDT
by
jimtorr
To: steplock
The sooner the child is separated from the parents the easier it will be to turn him over to the state.That's exactly correct!
The "State is All" crowd does not believe in in the sovereignty of man. They believe that man is the property of the state.
Who are these people? They are communists, fascists, liberals, Democrats, National Education Association, etc. They are all the same. They only believe in power for themselves.
Their prefered way to power is "the children". They want to seize and indoctrinate "the children" to their way of thinking. And they do this through the school system.
This crowd of traitorous scum will always try to take your children. Their goals are; nurseries as part of the school system, transportation of the children to/from schools, school hours effectively from 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM, year-around school, all meals provided by the school, medical procedures controlled by the school, curriculum controlled by the school (not the local citizens), youth activities controlled by the school.
When you see "school" think "state". Because that's what it is. The state is stealing your children. Parents' role in this sick scheme is merely to produce children, give them to the state, and fork over lots of money so the state can raise them as it sees fit.
If we don't get the state out of the schools soon, we might as well all be part of "The Matrix"
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posted on
05/30/2003 8:35:26 AM PDT
by
DakotaGator
(Liberal media, liberal teachers, liberal clergy. America, we have a problem!)
To: netmilsmom; Qwerty; Chancellor Palpatine
(I'm pinging Qwerty and C.P. because they don't believe the negative press public education is deservedly getting and have accused me of fabricating our
educational horror stories. I wish.)
When our younger son was in elementary school, only a few years ago, we asked the principal why the school wasn't teaching the multiplication tables (reinforcing them for our son since he knew them when he was five).
The principal's answer to us was "children don't need to learn the multiplication tables because when they're at the grocery store they will have use of a calculator."
We sat stunned.
Being an ex-newspaper reporter, I asked if I could quote him on that and he said "certainly; this is what the state has mandated."
This elementary school is in an upper-middle class, multi-ethnic district with influential, liberal parents who think the state can do no wrong.
Their kids, now in high school, still can't multiply. And they've misplaced their calculators along with the keys to their Firebird and their Sports Club I.D.
My advice to parents embarking on the public school system is to know that you will need to be a vigilant watchdog; do not take "no" for an answer.
Polite, unambiguous persistence is everything. Good luck.
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posted on
05/30/2003 8:37:39 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: jimtorr
Yep. Indoctrination and child care.
And it allows the mothers to keep working for the almighty buck, leaving their kids in the hands of strangers.
It makes for a more pliable voting block 15 years down the road.
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posted on
05/30/2003 8:43:03 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: madfly; steplock
Pinging to one who knows.
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posted on
05/30/2003 8:46:03 AM PDT
by
Dr. Eckleburg
(There are very few shades of gray.)
To: Dr. Eckleburg
I can give a good one and my daughter is in a charter school. My older daughter is bright. She tested 2nd grade 4th month in math the second month of kindergarten and is the youngest in the class. Her classroom is chaos. Out of 19 kids 9 of them are behavior problems or need special attention (one has CP and one has neurological problems that her parents are working to diagnose). The teacher has a high tollerance for noice and disruption. She punishes the good kids and rewards the bad when they do well.
Well, my daughter (bored with the cut, color & paste of every assignment) started becoming a behavior problem and stashing her papers in her desk so she could go to "free time". She even stated that when she and another child (a bad one) were caught doing something, she had her card turned (punishment) and the other child did not.
I went to a conference with the teacher and explained that I have tried both punishment and reward with this child at home and nothing seemed to work. What can we do together?
The teacher says that my daughter has ADD.
I had worked for a psychiatrist at one time and had him evaluate my daughter, no ADD. She is bored.
Now the teacher just knows that she is right and will not go past the idea that she can't help my daughter because she has ADD.
To boot, I asked this teacher to hold my daughter accountable and not let her go to free time unless her work is finished. Last Friday I found eight papers in my daughter's desk. Oh that worked.
Only 10 more days of this.......
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posted on
05/30/2003 8:58:49 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
To: jimtorr
Could you please give me a reference to that study?
I'm fighting a principal about it.
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posted on
05/30/2003 9:00:31 AM PDT
by
netmilsmom
(God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
To: DakotaGator
I remember Pres. Clinton talking about turning public schools into 24-hour-a-day medical facilities, recreational facilities, and social service facilities. Everything in the community would revolve around the public schools, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
I'm sure Hillary is behind this early childhood education plan also. She is big on the government sticking its nose into every aspect of human life, from cradle to grave.
It didn't work in Russia. Why does she thinks it going to work here?
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posted on
05/30/2003 9:01:26 AM PDT
by
ladylib
To: martianagent
placemarker
To: Dr. Eckleburg
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posted on
05/30/2003 9:08:51 AM PDT
by
ladylib
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