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Making Children "Wards of the State"
Arkansas Publik Skulz ^ | 30 May 2003 | Margaret Brogley

Posted on 05/30/2003 7:00:59 AM PDT by steplock

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To: ladylib
I'm sure Hillary is behind this early childhood education plan also. She is big on the government sticking its nose into every aspect of human life, from cradle to grave.

Precisely. Hillary is a rabid Marxist. She's had her taste of power and wants it all. As with all Totalitarians, she wants "the children".

When the state wants your children, freedom is vanishing. When it takes them, freedom is gone.

21 posted on 05/30/2003 9:24:05 AM PDT by DakotaGator (Liberal media, liberal teachers, liberal clergy. America, we have a problem!)
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To: jimtorr
Indeed, their idea of pre-kindergarten is purely for indoctrination purposes. Anything the public school systems advocate is going to be geared to numbing the minds and removing the child from parental influence. A robust NO to all their mental abuse tactics.
22 posted on 05/30/2003 9:42:24 AM PDT by Hila
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It's not enough they have our kids all day long for 20 years. Now they want them as toddlers.

This has been a common strategy throughout history. Get them while their young to more thoroughly brainwash them.

23 posted on 05/30/2003 11:19:24 AM PDT by nosofar
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To: steplock
"The Pew Charitable Trust"? Is that a communist front organization? Does anyone know? Who is behind it?
24 posted on 05/30/2003 12:02:54 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: nosofar
Book Title on Subject:

"School Can Wait" by Raymond and Dorothy Moore

25 posted on 05/30/2003 12:07:10 PM PDT by pgyanke (God Bless America!)
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To: steplock
Keep the kids under the control of the NEA at a younger age?

Why didn't I think of that before?

The NEA was trying to get the School District to enforce truancy laws on those parents who are home-schooling.

Bastrds
26 posted on 05/30/2003 12:51:09 PM PDT by uncbuck ("Lady, I'm not an athlete, I'm a baseball player." -- John Kruk)
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To: netmilsmom
Pull your precious child out of that zoo before they call child welfare on you and force her onto Ritalin. Do it TODAY.
27 posted on 05/30/2003 1:24:17 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: henderson field
http://www.pewtrusts.com/
I know they give to PBS kids shows.
28 posted on 05/30/2003 1:34:49 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: mvpel
The problem is that this is the best you get around here. My district school is far worse, the Christian schools have long waiting lists. I want to homeschool but I need to go back to work when the younger one gets into school (although at this point, I'm looking into delivering pizzas on the weekends to do it)
At the moment, the school cannot force Ritalin as long as I have that evaluation from my ex-boss. Thank you God, I got it as soon as the teacher put up that red flag. My angel has only nine days left, one being graduation and one being the field day. I am pushing for a stricter teacher for next year (secret word-organized) and running into problems with that. We are looking into other options.
And the real funny thing is, I volunteered in the class on Wednesdays. I have better control of her class than she does.
29 posted on 05/30/2003 1:43:33 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: steplock
For those of you with children in public schools, contact the nearest parochial school today and ask if they will work with you make it possible for your child to attend their school. Many are willing to cut deals on tuition and can help you find transportation if you need it to get junior there. It will be worth every dime you have to scrape together years in the future when your child actually knows the basics of thinking and morality.

My three are in a Lutheran school that is fantastic. You have to put forth some extra effort to find these schools, but it's worth it.
30 posted on 05/30/2003 1:46:29 PM PDT by freemama
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To: netmilsmom
If delivering pizzas on the weekends is what it takes... Friends of ours are fortunate enough to have flexible work schedules so they can "tag-team" the teaching responsibilities.

When our kid (yet to be adopted) gets to school age, we'll probably wind up moving somewhere less expensive to be able to swing homeschooling.
31 posted on 05/30/2003 1:46:41 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: mvpel
http://www.caliva.org/
This is the website for CA virtual university.
If you are just looking for a cheaper place to live, Ohio and PA have the same K12 education as a charter.

I was truly considering using my nephew's address in Ohio to get my kids on the program.
What's with people from MI moving to CA? I have two in-laws that did it too.
32 posted on 05/30/2003 2:01:32 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: steplock
bump
33 posted on 05/30/2003 2:02:07 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: netmilsmom
I moved out during the tech boom and doubled my salary, and then watched nearly half a million in stock equity swirl down the deflating bubble's toilet.

At least I still have a job, which is certainly a blessing.
34 posted on 05/30/2003 2:07:36 PM PDT by mvpel
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To: freemama
My daughter is on the waiting lists.
35 posted on 05/30/2003 2:11:04 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: mvpel
That's where my hubby is as well. He chose to stay in a stable job here in MI and we are just glad we have a job. His brother tried to talk him into a CA move. I said no and I am soooo glad!
36 posted on 05/30/2003 2:14:12 PM PDT by netmilsmom (God Bless our President, those with him & our troops)
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To: mvpel
When our kid (yet to be adopted) gets to school age, we'll probably wind up moving somewhere less expensive to be able to swing homeschooling.

That's great!!!

Not just for your family, but for all if us Home schoolers are the last hope for the restoration of our Republic.

Asbestos undies "on."

37 posted on 05/30/2003 2:22:03 PM PDT by don-o
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To: DakotaGator
A New Case for Abandoning Government Schools
Steven Yates
E. Ray Moore, Jr., Let My Children Go (Columbia, S.C.: Gilead Media, 2002)

"...Then state-sponsored education was imported from Europe – specifically, PRUSSIA – with the first true state-sponsored schools set up in Massachusetts by Horace Mann and the Unitarians in the 1840s. Mann and his colleagues set down three principles: (1) compulsory attendance; (2) teacher certification from a state teachers college – showing that teachers have been taught what to teach; (3) ownership and administration of schools by the state. Rev. Moore notes how 19th century theologians such as R.L. Dabney warned against the new system. But almost no one sensed danger..."
Are we teaching American Citizens or training Prussian Serfs?
NPRI
from a speech by Senator Ann O'Connell (R-Las Vegas)
adapted by Diane Alden

"...A strategy was devised in which the Prussian government would set up a forced government educational system which would turn out well disciplined students who would follow orders without questioning authority. To accomplish this feat, the goal of educating children became a national priority permeated with strategies adapted to turn out a national work force rather then an educated citizenry. Every step in the education process was calculated to offer authority figures the least amount of trouble and consequently train a well disciplined albeit docile citizen..."

Arkansas Publik Skulz
38 posted on 05/30/2003 2:32:30 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Goals2000 ... Project2061 ... et al

While I was researching the background information to design this web site last year, I kept coming across the name F. JAMES RUTHERFORD on many Official Government and Teacher web sites when the topic was teaching math and sciences to our children.

F. James Rutherford is Chief Education Officer of the American Association for the Advancement of Science and Director of Project 2061: Education for a Changing Future.

Educators and publishers have been scurrying about for much of the 1990s trying to translate into practice reform slogans such as ‘less is more’...

Mr Rutherford believes that:

"High school textbooks list 120 different technical words about the cell that students are often required to memorize." Rutherford says that "We found 11 of the words were sufficient."

With "Education" with that attititude, where will the USA be in 10 years? Right where Clinton & Carter have promised? At the bottom of the world? References are posted with this article.
39 posted on 05/30/2003 2:56:03 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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To: ladylib
Not RUSSIA -- PRUSSIA!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/920244/posts?page=38#38

40 posted on 05/30/2003 2:58:36 PM PDT by steplock ( http://www.spadata.com)
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