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What Goes Around Comes Around - Blair to be charged with war crimes by International Criminal Court!
newsmax.com ^ | May 29, 2003 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 05/29/2003 4:20:31 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

The BBC reports that British Prime Minister Tony Blair is about to be charged as a war criminal by the Greek Bar Association before the International Criminal Court. Dimitris Paxinos, president of the lawyers' association, told the BBC that Blair will be charged with "crimes against humanity and war crimes." President George Bush escapes being charged, as the United States is not a signatory to the ICC.

The Greeks claim that the U.S.-U.K. invasion of Iraq violates the United Nations Charter, the Geneva Convention, the Hague Convention and the International Criminal Court's statute.

Paxinos, who was elected by a conservative majority, says he is confident that the evidence compiled by the bar association is strong.

Until recently, charges against a head of state could be laughed away. Unfortunately for Tony Blair, he created the precedent for extraditing heads of state. The Blair government arrested Chile's Augusto Pinochet and ruled that Pinochet could be extradited to Spain on specious charges brought by a Spanish prosecutor.

Arrested in October 1998 while in London for back surgery, the 82-year-old Pinochet was held in England under house arrest while the majesty of British law decided his fate. The stress on Pinochet of the drawn-out proceedings resulted in two strokes.

His health destroyed, an 84-year-old Pinochet was released by Blair's Home Secretary, Jack Straw, in March 2000 and was allowed to return to Chile.

Pinochet was a victim of Soviet propaganda. He was head of the Chilean army in 1973 when it was forced by popular demand and appeal from the elected legislature to overthrow Salvador Allende, who was turning Chile into a Soviet client state.

Pinochet had to combat Marxist terrorists during the 1970s and 1980s, using the equivalent of the U.S. PATRIOT Act and military detention a la the U.S. camp at Guantanamo Bay. With far fewer resources, Pinochet successfully put down a far greater terrorist threat than the one currently faced by the United States.

During these years, Pinochet revived Chile's broken economy and restored the country's legal and political systems. He succeeded, because he turned the government over to civilian ministers with graduate educations from the University of Chicago and Harvard.

He authorized a group of leading citizens to create a new constitution that would restore democracy and representative government and used referendum to legitimize the new political system.

Pinochet kept to the time schedule he had established and stepped down as president of Chile in 1990, just as he said he would.

Pinochet was demonized by the international political left, and his health and retirement were destroyed as a consequence.

Pinochet did not fight terrorism by invading foreign countries. The total number of terrorists killed by the Chilean military is a fraction of the recent Iraqi civilian casualties at the hands of U.S. and U.K. forces. Pinochet never dropped bombs on civilians or sent missiles into residential neighborhoods.

At the time Pinochet was arrested by Blair's government as a sop to the political left, the International Criminal Court did not exist. Cornell University Professor Jeremy Rabkin demonstrated that there was no international law giving Spain jurisdiction over Chile or giving Spanish magistrate Baltasar Garzon jurisdiction over Pinochet.

Garzon hoped to create such a law by asserting it, and Blair foolishly went along.

In 1998, it did not occur to Blair that five years later he would be roped into invading Iraq on trumped-up charges that it was a hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorists equipped with weapons of mass destruction.

Now Blair finds himself with a nasty bit of aggression on his record and as many as 10,000 civilian casualties. That puts him in league with Slobodan Milosovic, who at least was fighting terrorist separatists within his own borders.

It is fairly certain that the Blair government is not going to hand over Blair to the Greeks or to the ICC. If it did, Bush would send in the Special Forces to rescue him. But if the ICC issues a warrant, Blair won't be able to go to Greece or to any country that might hand him over to the ICC.

Indeed, once Blair achieves his goal of dissolving Great Britain into the European Union, there will be no sovereign British government to protect him. He could be picked up at will by EU police and handed over to the ICC.

With the United States becoming a multicultural Tower of Babel, who is to know that Bush, too, in his old age won't be handed over by a Hispanic president who has no concern for vanquished Anglo-American hegemony or agreements between vanished cultures and nations.


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: Amerigomag
Yes, technically you're correct. As a practical matter, I don't think separating ethnic bigotry from racism means a whole lot, except to scientists.
41 posted on 05/29/2003 5:06:21 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I'm sure he's shaking in his boots....

Tony, if you're ready this, be sure to keep the "soap on a rope" handy.....

42 posted on 05/29/2003 5:08:14 PM PDT by b4its2late (Blessed are those who hunger and thirst, for they are sticking to their diets.)
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To: Dog Gone
The judge who tried to convict Pinochet was Hispanic. I don't see how the sentence is race-baiting if it refers to a real possibility rather than a conjured bogeyman.

You might think it's not a real possibility and ridiculous, but leftists all over the world don't think so at all, and our next Democrat president will resign the ICC treaty.

43 posted on 05/29/2003 5:08:52 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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To: Amerigomag
"In case you didn't know Anglos and Hispanics are members of the same race."

Depends on where you are referring to. Hispanics as in from Hispania (modern portugal and spain) are caucasian with a fair amount of Moorish blood mixed in. This brand of hispanic is a miniscule % of the spanish-speaking population in the US.

Hispanics from the western hemisphere, however, have a varied genetic makeup. Some places, like Colombia and Argentina, have moderate to large parts of the population being of nearly pure european blood. Others are more mixed, and some are almost entirely composed of people of a very high % indian genetic makeup (peru, bolivia, to name a couple. Though it be incorrectly, the term hispanic is used to describe all of these groups. From the context, it appears likely that the author meant Hispanic president as in a president of the US (also possibly of a south or central american country) who is a hispanic i.e. from south or central america, so no, a Hispanic is very possibly more asian (reference - american indian DNA derives mainly from some place in east china) than european in his genetic background.
44 posted on 05/29/2003 5:08:59 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Tailgunner Joe
There is some really slimy stuff in this article.

But they are right about the Pinochet precedent, and they are also right that Tony Blair brought it on himself, since he has always been a socialist NWO supporter.
45 posted on 05/29/2003 5:13:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"It is fairly certain that the Blair government is not going to hand over Blair to the Greeks or to the ICC. If it did, Bush would send in the Special Forces to rescue him."

Cool idea but a bit of hyperbole considering I cant see the British SAS sitting by and allowing such a thing to happen, regardless of what British officials tried to hand him over.

It would make for a great collision between the left & right.

BTW: "Special Forces" are Green Berets. I'm sure they'd be used for actual recon and even part of covering any exfiltration but Delta would probably be tasked with such a mission. Unless of course we wanted to just roll an armoured division in and take Blair out by sheer force as opposed to speed & surprise.

46 posted on 05/29/2003 5:14:42 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (Could someone show me one [1] Loserdopian elected to the federal government?)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It couldn't be more clear that the ICC and the UN are orgs whose time has come and gone. The ICC was destined to become one big sink hole of blithering idiosity. Now here it is in all it's glory. I suggest we call a general session with all ICC dignitaries in attendance and accidently drop a MOAB on it.
47 posted on 05/29/2003 5:26:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I don't see how the sentence is race-baiting if it refers to a real possibility rather than a conjured bogeyman.

Fine, stand by it then. He could have made the point that the US might become a signatory party to the ICC in the future without bringing race or ethnic origin into it. He did so, rather emphatically and in article that had no racial overtones until his last zinger.

48 posted on 05/29/2003 5:27:08 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In 1998, it did not occur to Blair that five years later he would be roped into invading Iraq on trumped-up charges that it was a hotbed of al-Qaeda terrorists equipped with weapons of mass destruction.
Straw man arguement. No one claimed that Iraq had already given Al Quada weapons. On the other hand it has been established that Iraq hosted and aided terrorists and developed WMDs.
Evidently, isolationism blinds.
49 posted on 05/29/2003 5:32:13 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Yo-Yo
If any libs ask why George W. Bush is not facing criminal charges, just reply "there is no controlling legal authority" (we are a soverign nation).
50 posted on 05/29/2003 5:34:09 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: WoofDog123
Native Mexicans are classified as a subset of European Caucasoids.

The statistical influence of mongoloid migration is limited to the upper half of North America.

You, and many others are falling prey to the perverse alteration, within the last 30 years, of the term "race" by the politically motivated, liberal elite.

These same liberals are now trying to extend the legal definition of "racial discrimination" to all forms of bigotry except gender and I'm not so sure gender won't soon be included to further their traditional pursuit of pitting one group against another.

51 posted on 05/29/2003 5:34:31 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Dog Gone
He's obviously worried that our open border policies will result in the election of a Hispanic preident once Hispanics become the majority in this country. How much do you want to bet that Hispanic president will be a Democrat?

Do you support multiculturalism and open borders?

52 posted on 05/29/2003 5:34:44 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
10,000 is a little bit less than the toll in Argentina...
Last I heard at least 30,000 "disappeared" while Pinochet
was in power.
53 posted on 05/29/2003 5:37:06 PM PDT by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
International Criminal Court / World Health Organization / United Nations------'They' are not going to be happy until 'they' have control of the entire planet in each and every way.

Is there a Universal Dietary Committee yet?

54 posted on 05/29/2003 5:40:18 PM PDT by Exit148 (Another $3+ for the Loose Change Club contribution tord the next Freepathon!)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
How much do you want to bet that Hispanic president will be a Democrat?

Based on California's current demographics, 83% of Hispanics are of Mexican ancestory.

Based on the voting record of California's Hispanics the first Hispanic governor is more likely to be a moderate Republican than a liberal Democrat.

Based of their conservative traditions, once Hispanics become a unified political majority in California they will abandon the Democratic Party. Since the Democratic party tends to be a collection of single issue special interest groups it's usefulness will no longer be needed to meet the needs of the "Hispanic community".

55 posted on 05/29/2003 5:43:42 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Tailgunner Joe
That's a subject for a different thread (where I'll be happy to discuss it with you). It has nothing to do with the ICC and Tony Blair, which was my whole damn point to begin with.

People who insist in bringing illegal immigration or cultural purity into every subject, no matter how unrelated, have a real problem with focus.

56 posted on 05/29/2003 5:44:11 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Maybe this will serve as a wake up call for Tony Blair and convince him that blending into the U.N. will be the death of England
57 posted on 05/29/2003 5:49:30 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: MJY1288; Tailgunner Joe
I meant the EU, not U.N., But he should ignore them both :-)
58 posted on 05/29/2003 5:51:20 PM PDT by MJY1288 ("4" more in "04")
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To: Amerigomag
I'll believe it when I see it.

Mexican Americans should lean conservative, but they don't. They have been sucked into the racist political agenda of the Democratic party. Many more Mexicans are going to come here before we elect a Hispanic president, and while assimilated Mexican Americans may have conservative values, native Mexicans and new arrivals are overwhelmingly Anti-American.

59 posted on 05/29/2003 5:51:43 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe (Those who beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who don't)
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To: Tailgunner Joe; South40; William McKinley; Arpege92
Payback for what the British did for Milosevic--what goes around comes around!!!!!!!
60 posted on 05/29/2003 5:57:49 PM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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