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Hollywood Legend Jane Russell Slams Abortion In Interview
LifeSite ^ | Wednesday May 28, 2003

Posted on 05/29/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT by nickcarraway

LONDON, May 28, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - The UK Life League, a British pro-life group has reported that Jane Russell, the 1940s and '50s Hollywood movie star and pin-up girl, now aged 82, gave an interview this week slamming abortion. "People should never, ever have an abortion. Don't talk to me about it being a woman's right to choose what she does with her own body. The choice is between life and death," said Russell.

Describing her shock at finding herself pregnant at 18: "The only solution was to find a quack and get an abortion. I had a botched abortion and it was terrible. Afterwards my own doctor said: 'What butcher did this to you?' I had to be taken to hospital. I was so ill I nearly died. I've never known pain like it." Russell says that due to the abortion she was not able to have any other children.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: abortion; prolife
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
So, you think NOBODY, except me, doesn't regret having an abortion? Is that what you're saying?
421 posted on 06/03/2003 6:47:24 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Why does it matter if I ... or any woman ... feels remorse? If it's wrong, it's wrong. Right?
422 posted on 06/03/2003 6:50:44 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Hildy.. if you are somehow trying to get me to say what you did was ok.. it will never happen. Sure, there are soul-less cold people out there who are not sorry. You asked if I thought you were the only person who did not feel sorry,..I'm sure you are NOT the ONLY person who feels no remorse. (But they are not the majority)

Does it make you feel better to keep company with them? (The old adage "you are the company you keep" comes to mind.)

Do you believe in God? For all I know you're an athiest. Like I said.. to feel NO REMORSE for murder is un-natural and an abomination to God.

People make mistakes.. horrible mistakes in life. The difference in people is some learn from them and are sorry for them. The others just keep trying to rationalize and justify their mistakes, thus, no remorse at all.

I think your posts are some of the saddest I've witnessed on FR. Though I know you judge me for doing it.. and are even calling those of us who are praying for you pious (0r whatever words you used.. I'm not quoting you exactly, nor do I have the inclination or desire to go look up your exact words).. but I'm praying for you nonetheless.

Unless you have some MIRACULOUS change of heart.. I'm done discussing this topic with you. (Another old addage comes to mind "spinning my wheels in mud".) So, I'm sad to say, further communication with you on this topic is useless.



423 posted on 06/03/2003 7:17:12 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
Since you have never experienced that which you report to know so very much about, I'll say goodbye and I hope that one day you put aside your holier than thou sentiments and really understand what I was trying to say on this thread.
424 posted on 06/03/2003 7:24:28 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Since you have never experienced that which you report to know so very much about

How do you know I never experienced it? Like I said.. this is like spinning ones wheels in mud.. a totally useless dialogue other than to express views and correct misconceptions about "Most women" not feeling guilty after abortions. End of subject.

425 posted on 06/03/2003 9:28:54 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
(see post 425) And the plot sickens..I mean...thickens...
426 posted on 06/03/2003 10:22:40 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy; DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Do you mind explaining what your point was in pinging DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
to your response to my post? Am I missing something here? Or, are you just TRYING to stir the pot. Cause you keep stirring and stirring and stirring..... and you don't even really READ peoples responses.

This is getting even MORE pathetic than I thought possible. Whodathunkit? I happen to like and respect DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet. If there is something I need to know, lets just get it out now. This is becoming extremely sophmoric.
427 posted on 06/03/2003 10:33:35 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife; Hildy
Do you mind explaining what your point was in pinging DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet to your response to my post? Am I missing something here?

We were talking about this thread on a different thread, that's all. Hildy knew I had seen this one, and that I had been disturbed at the reaction to her disclosure (people posting graphics of Satan, suggesting she prayed to him - things of that nature).

I had used this thread as an example, while I was talking to a couple of guys about the rather off-putting way they communicate with those who disagree on this topic. I was hoping to get them to think about it, and realize that no hearts or minds are going to be changed by vitriolic language.

428 posted on 06/03/2003 10:57:40 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (So you're a feminist. Isn't that cute!)
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To: Hildy
Do you support abortion?
429 posted on 06/03/2003 11:03:07 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Thanks, and I would agree with your opinion. I was just bewildered as it came out of the blue seeing you pinged to our discussion. I had no idea you all were discussing this particular thread, but I can assure you I was NOT one of those who posted anything satanic nor would I judge someone in that manner. God will be the judge of us, not me.

That doesn't mean I can't comment on something, or try to discuss it, no matter how sensitive a subject it may be. We have a responsibility to talk about the ills of society. In fact, I think I have a responsibilty to respond to something so horrendous as abortion. Hildy mentioned her abortion, but others have mentioned theirs, some have insinuated that they have had abortions, and people have even explained keeping a child from rape. The point that was being made, was anyone can be forgiven, ANYONE. We can learn from mistakes and be responsible. Killing innocent defenseless babies because YOU made a mistake, or had sex, or were even raped, isn't right or moral. Out of a persons entire life, 10 months given to allow a baby to live, is NOTHING. That or PREVENT pregnancy.. but don't defend an abortion. Don't talk about being so cold hearted as to have ZERO feelings about having done it, and expect people to respond in a warm and fuzzy way to those kinds of emotions (or lack of any).

For some of us on this thread, it is about "responsibilty" for our own actions. Feeling a sense of "wrong" is important. Hildy states unequivically that she has NO REGRETS.. NONE. No remorse for a baby being aborted. She was implying that MANY women feel the same way. I don't agree. From very personal experience.. I don't agree.

I don't think people should have to feel guilt all their lives, and I believe God forgives people who had abortions. But to not feel "anything" for the innocent baby is shocking to many of us. We can't comprehend that kind of cold heartedness. I don't think those who feel that way are bad. And if they don't speak out.. then people like Hildy will be telling young girls "hey, I had an abortion, and I've never regretted it a day in my life". What kind of message does that send? Then she states she isn't for abortion, her statements are extremely contradictive and confusing. But she gets mad at those who "cannot" understand how she can feel that way. There is no inherint good that can come from her stating how UNFEELING she is about killing an innocent baby. How does that serve anyone, especially the defenseless babies well? It certainly does NOT help those who did get abortions, to forgive themselves, and I think that is VERY important. Our Father in heaven is VERY LOVING, and He DOES forgive people for having abortions. Anyway.. it is a very deep subject, and I'm really proud of the women who tried to explain to Hildy that they DID have one, and they have taken responsibility for having done so. If this thread served only one purpose.. to save a young woman from aborting a baby, or in allowing a woman who DID have one to find forgiveness, thus freedom from her pain, then it served us all well.

IMHO "NOT" taking responsibility for DOING DAMAGE to another human being, is a serious blight on and ill of society.

As Hildy's post mentioned my response by number and she pinged you to it, and in light of what you just said, I'm still confused as to why you were pinged to MY particular response. But it really is time to MOVE ON.

FRegards
430 posted on 06/03/2003 11:28:26 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: rwfromkansas
I do not think abortion will ever be completely illegal. I think efforts would be better spent making it incredibly hard to get and parental notification mandatory.
431 posted on 06/04/2003 6:56:24 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
I agree smaller steps should be taken.

I don't support completely banning it myself......I would support exceptions in the case of saving the life of the mother because quite frankly, I do not know whose life is worth more in that case, so I guess I will just support the status quo in that regard. But abortion just to have abortion should be banned.
432 posted on 06/04/2003 11:13:46 AM PDT by rwfromkansas (Blessed be the Lord, the God of Israel!)
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