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Annika's big adventure: Larry Elder sets record straight on PGA, LPGA gender policies, Sorenstam..
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Thursday, May 29, 2003 | Larry Elder

Posted on 05/29/2003 12:35:36 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Annika Sorenstam, who dominates the Ladies Professional Golf Association, became the first female golfer to play in a Professional Golf Association event in 58 years.

She finished her first day one over par, but did not make the 36-hole cut because during the second day she finished with a 74, missing the cut by four shots.

During her press conference, she sounded surprisingly down, and practically conceded that she reached beyond reasonable expectations. Hey, after one try, why not give it another shot before throwing in the towel?

In any case, many fail to realize that the PGA never forbade female competitors. Indeed, Babe Didrikson Zaharias played in a PGA tournament in 1945, making the 36-hole cut, but failing to make the 54-hole cut. By contrast, the LPGA tour, by definition, confines its entrants to females.

How did Sorenstam qualify for Texas' Colonial invitational in the first place? She received a "sponsors' exemption," which allows, by any criteria, a select number of entrants to play. Some men, at first, grumbled that she failed to qualify by playing in a tournament from the women's rather than from the men's tee. She, therefore – according to the critics – entered under less trying circumstances than those required for men.

Golfer Vijay Singh, in particular, said, "I hope she misses the cut. Why? Because she doesn't belong out here." He then quickly backed up and said, "She's the best woman golfer in the world, and I want to emphasize 'woman.' We have our tour for men, and they have their tour. She's taking a spot from someone in the field." Yet, in years past, several men received sponsors' exemptions, including past "champions" no longer competitive. Thus, she did not "take a space" from a male tour golfer.

What's the harm? Last year, the 32-year-old Swede won 13 tournaments, exerting a dominance beyond that of even Tiger Woods. Fellow LPGA player Juli Inkster likens Sorenstam to Woods, "She's the Tiger Woods of our tour. If Tiger had a 'next level' to go to, I bet he would do it. I think she's one who always wants to challenge herself and see how she stacks up against the best. The men are the best."

Sorenstam simply crushes her league. She hits a ball longer than many men. She said she made no statement concerning women – not one of those I-am-woman-hear-me-roar deals, but simply sought to elevate her game by playing with the best.

Does this mean that men can now compete in an LPGA Tournament?

Years ago, a boy in New York tried out for and made the girls' high-school field-hockey team, which state regulations allowed him to do because there was no boys' field-hockey team. New York reporter Melissa Hebert summed it up precisely when she wrote, "With girls going out for boys' teams, the question is, is she good enough? When a boy goes out for a girls' team, the question often is, is he bad enough?"

One female commentator cheered on Sorenstam and called golf a "non-gender sport." If, by that, she means both sexes play the game, sure. If, however, she suggests that most professionals possess equal skills or hit the ball just as far, she fails to properly credit Annika with abilities far beyond those of most professional female golfers.

As mentioned earlier, Annika called the Colonial a one-time event, and that she did not anticipate entering into any other male events. The Colonial, say experienced golfers, while 700 yards longer than the typical LPGA setup, remains one of the shorter men's courses with only two par fives, and thus the Colonial is one where women might likely compete more effectively. Other courses, with higher pars, likely serve more problematic for female golfers, however talented.

Still, Sorenstam beat 11 other men, and displayed poise, class and a sense of humor. Hey, if a female pitcher for the New York Yankees can throw a 95-mile-an-hour fastball, imagine the attendance.

Where is Martha Burk, the woman who banged on the gates to let women into Augusta? Where is the National Organization for Women, one of whose chapter presidents disagreed with charging Scott Peterson for double homicide in the murder of his wife, Laci, and unborn son, Conner?

As a step forward for, call it, female achievement and accomplishment – especially without the supportive agitation of some civil-rights group – this seems far more historically significant. Most male golfers offered support, and, in fact, pulled for her and cheered her on. Television ratings soared, and the event drew 400 reporters, nearly four times the customary number. Meanwhile, Burk's anti-Masters protest drew about 50 attendees, many of them members of the press.

Somehow, someway, Sorenstam pulled this off without NOW's Kim Gandy or the National Council of Women's Organizations' Burk. Say it ain't so.


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To: TomB
Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.
161 posted on 05/30/2003 2:22:47 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
I'm still looking for your answer to my challenge of this post:

You clearly don't because you seem to have no other interests than defending your opinion that women are the same as men.

Show me one post where I said that women are the same as men.

Show me the post, presidio9.

162 posted on 05/30/2003 2:27:30 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: presidio9
Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.

Wow, cut-and-paste. I'm impressed.

Anyway, here is another quote of mine from BEFORE THE TOURNEY!



    From another article:

    "The tournament has issued 583 media credentials. Not only is that up -- way up -- from 178 last year, it computes to nearly five media representatives for every player in the field."

    This is looking like the move of a lifetime for the sponsor, Bank of America.



It can't be nitpicking when the only point I made prior to the tourney was that this was a legal and good move by B of A.

163 posted on 05/30/2003 2:28:56 PM PDT by TomB
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To: an amused spectator
Okay, truce.

But, I don't think it was her short game that caused her to lose those 5 or 6 a round I mentioned. In a post to another piece of the board, I brought up my reasoning.

When I looked at the amount of putts she needed, I have to ask myself why as this is a high number (I believe well over 30 in each round. Putting is what separates most of the pros, on paper, from the better amateurs). And the reason, to me, is that she is not attacking the pins with 7 irons up, but with 4 through 6 irons because of the distance and placement of the hazzards established for the pros. One of the reasons that certain courses are selected for the pros to play, among the many, is their layout and the location of hazzards to separate the pros from the amateurs. A trap placed at the 270 yard mark, is one the men playing pros fly, while Annaka is forced to play around or short to use a far different club selection on her approach to the green, i.e., a 5 iron versus the men playing a 9 iron or wedge. The men attack the pin, she attacks the green. She's not in the right position to "hole" the number of putts she normally would be able to because of this. So, her short game, outside of putting, becomes non-existant. And when you take the women's short game away because of tee to green headaches, it harms their overall score, and you're right when you say her short game was weak. But it wasn't as much because of her putting as because of her inability to use her short irons due to course management problems created by playing from the tips and the unusual additional distance she needed to get from tee to green.

Hope your putting gets better with work. The practice green is the first place I used to head when I'm wasn't on the course. After years of play and fighting down my handicap, along with lessons and lessons and hours and hours on the range, I still think putting is everyone's weakness. Now that I can't play anymore, I miss the game.
164 posted on 05/30/2003 2:30:52 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: TomB
Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.
165 posted on 05/30/2003 2:31:38 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.

OK, let's try this. Could you perhaps point out where I said that Sorenstam "belonged out there"? Not that she used a legitimate means to get there, but that she had the tools to do well. How about it?

A little proof, perhaps?

166 posted on 05/30/2003 2:37:31 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Redwood71
A trap placed at the 270 yard mark, is one the men playing pros fly, while Annaka is forced to play around or short to use a far different club selection on her approach to the green, i.e., a 5 iron versus the men playing a 9 iron or wedge. The men attack the pin, she attacks the green. She's not in the right position to "hole" the number of putts she normally would be able to because of this. So, her short game, outside of putting, becomes non-existant. And when you take the women's short game away because of tee to green headaches, it harms their overall score...

I think your analysis of "The men attack the pin, she attacks the green" is correct. I was referring specifically to actual short game shots that she totally botched. She lost several strokes there, and I'm sure it put additional pressure on her putting.

167 posted on 05/30/2003 2:39:45 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: presidio9; an amused spectator; Ready4Freddy; NittanyLion
Anybody else see a pattern here?


To: TomB

Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.

149 posted on 05/30/2003 5:03 PM EDT by presidio9


To: TomB

Nope, just that you never address my point.

Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.

156 posted on 05/30/2003 5:11 PM EDT by presidio9


To: TomB

Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.

161 posted on 05/30/2003 5:22 PM EDT by presidio9


To: TomB

Quite simple. Sorenstam herself says she did not belong out there. All of your nitpicking can never change that. You will ALWAYS be wrong, because NOBODY is a more qualified judge than she is.

165 posted on 05/30/2003 5:31 PM EDT by presidio9


Ladies and gentlemen, we have a troll!!!

168 posted on 05/30/2003 2:50:51 PM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
That's my point. I'm done arguing with you. You can't address the main issue, so why bother giving your posts a moment's thought?
169 posted on 05/30/2003 3:24:15 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: Redwood71
After years of play and fighting down my handicap, along with lessons and lessons and hours and hours on the range, I still think putting is everyone's weakness.

Truer words... Ever read any Dave Pelz? He gives us hope.

Now that I can't play anymore, I miss the game.

Sorry to hear that. My time is coming one of these days, but I'll sink a putt for you next time I'm out.

170 posted on 05/30/2003 3:30:59 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
"I was referring specifically to actual short game shots that she totally botched. She lost several strokes there, and I'm sure it put additional pressure on her putting."

I think we're both right, and for the same reason. With the advent of the extra pitching wedges in the bags, and their use from 120 yards in, the pros, and especially the women, do not hit many "Texas Wedges" anymore. I don't know how many times I've seen the pros, get in between clubs at short distances, especially inside the 100 yards markers. This is the main reason that the PGA, with the agreement of the USGA, has placed the hazzard "drop zones" at the distances they do. It always seems like the distance of these zones is a fairly consistent wedge from the pin in order to give the pros the possibility of saving par when they chutzpah an approach and go swimming or go into an unplayable area either by design or accident like casual water. The great pitch and run golfers, like Lee Trevino, are no longer a part of the game with the distances the young pros are getting. But the women's game doesn't demand that type of shot as everything is the correct distance for drive fairway, approach shot on green, and putt for birdie. They don't hit par 5's in two, and don't try very much. They send shot number two to the correct distance for a short iron to attack the pin. Can you name me any of the women that are hitting par 5's in 2 with any consistency? I can't. But I can name a number of men.

171 posted on 05/30/2003 3:35:34 PM PDT by Redwood71
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To: presidio9
You can't address the main issue, so why bother giving your posts a moment's thought?

Could you PLEASE show me where I EVER said ANYTHING about Sorenstam "belonging"?

172 posted on 05/30/2003 4:26:33 PM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
That is the main issue. The minuitia is tedious.
173 posted on 05/30/2003 4:48:28 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
That is the main issue.

WHAT is the main issue?

174 posted on 05/30/2003 5:01:39 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Redwood71
With the advent of the extra pitching wedges in the bags, and their use from 120 yards in, the pros, and especially the women, do not hit many "Texas Wedges" anymore. I don't know how many times I've seen the pros, get in between clubs at short distances, especially inside the 100 yards markers.

I know I've been running three wedges for a few years now - a 52 degree Hogan wedge (110 yds), a 56 degree Hogan fairway wedge (90yds) (sweet club - a friend showed me that it was the way to go) and a 60 degree Wilson Staff (65 yds). It is pretty easy to get in between a full swing close in, bringing the inevitable chunky beaver pelt if you haven't been playing in a while.

The great pitch and run golfers, like Lee Trevino, are no longer a part of the game with the distances the young pros are getting.

I've actually started working on the old style pitch and run with the pitching wedge over the last couple of years. Hogan designed his PWs specifically to hit the old-style partial shot (just read that a while ago). I've got a friend who plays partial PWs really well, so I've been watching him.

But I can name a number of men.

Most of my lower handicap friends do too. :-) I'm big enough and hit it long enough, but I'm working on iron control and don't like the percentages with a two-shot par 5.

You sound like you played a bit in your day. You ever play any pressure golf? If so, how do you think she handled the pressure?

175 posted on 05/30/2003 5:06:04 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: TomB
You know what it is. Stick to it.
176 posted on 05/30/2003 5:06:18 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: TomB
WHAT is the main issue?

I think that ol' presidiQueeg9 has got hold of a "secret post" wherein you & Martha Burk plotted to force the PGA Tour to let Sorenstam play every tournament she wants to from here on out.

And he's got a quote by you that he'll post up later, after he's finished making it up. ;-)

177 posted on 05/30/2003 5:11:24 PM PDT by an amused spectator
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To: presidio9
You know what it is. Stick to it.

Well, you say it is "Annika not belonging".

And I have asked you to show where I actually said that she did belong.

I'm still waiting.

178 posted on 05/30/2003 5:12:40 PM PDT by TomB
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To: TomB
Then what do you want from me? Get a life buddy.
179 posted on 05/30/2003 5:13:50 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Then what do you want from me?

You have continued to deny that from a marketing standpoint, Bank of America made a great decision and did quite well sponsoring the tournament.

I have posted fact after fact, and the smartest response I get from you is "BZZZT. Wrong." Without any support for your flimsy position.

In other words, if you can't support your contention that there was no benefit to B of A in inviting Sorenstam, then withdraw it and go away.

Put up or shut up.

180 posted on 05/30/2003 5:23:41 PM PDT by TomB
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