A.P.A. Debates Pedophilia, Gender-Identity Disorder, Sexual Sadism

NARTH ^ | 28 May 2003 | Linda Ames Nicolosi

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Romans 1: 28 - 32 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;" Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

What Is "A Homosexual" Kinsey's published data reveal that homosexuals are much more willing to "try it" with an animal, a child, a man, many women, or for that matter "something completely different."

The Decline of a Nation

[Billthedrill]

Good Lord - looks like it's time for BtD to come out of the closet. Yep, folks, I'm...a normophilic.

I'm so ashamed...

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[Billthedrill]

BTW, I'm not sure I'd lean too heavily on Kinsey as an authority on anything in the field. The guy had...issues...

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San Francisco Sodomite psychobabble ping

[Uncle Miltie]

"There is nothing wrong with homosexuality pedophilia. People are born that way. Who are we to judge?" </moral relativism>

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Dr. Judith Reisman

[Billthedrill]

You haven't changed much beside your nick, have you? A link isn't an argument - say what you want to say, don't make others chase it down. Please?

[RLK]

Should the APA and the DSM be denormalized?

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sought direct, empirically provable evidence; not of the pathological origins of a condition, but of its disabling effect in the present

So the claim is pedophilia has no disabling effects?
S&M has no disabling effects?
So if a guy chains a 12 year old girl up in his basement and molests her for months, that's not sick?

I think the white coats are on the wrong people.

This is more than just a religious issue. This is an issue of nurturing, civilized behavior that concerns the general well-being of humans, including hope for the future.

[kegler4]

If you're going to post more of your mostly useless references you might consider the source.

It's been shown time and again that Kinsey's research was terribly flawed because of the samples used. As a result, the conclusions are completely suspect. You should know this considering your supposed expertise in this topic.

Many of your legal references are also basically useless because they were compiled by groups with a certain viewpoint and therefore are not meant to be objective. These people aren't going to show the research or legal arguments that support the other side and neither will you. If I had enough legal expertise, I could probably file a brief that would persuasively argue that the sky is green. That's the nature of the beast. Just because a brief is filed in a court case doesn't make it true. Or did you not know that?

However, I'll surprise you by agreeing that these things being discussed most certainly should not be considered "normal."

[kegler4]

Let me change that to "most" of these things being discussed shouldn't be considered normal. Something tells me that the vast majority of people have participated in some form of voyeurism, even it is as simple as looking at a Playboy or Playgirl. I'm sure you've never done that, though.

[ImaGraftedBranch]

This is the group that started it all going downhill. Satan is the chairman of the APA. Defining homosexuality as normal was the downfall.

Now, it will be every other deviant behavior defined as normal. These people are mentally ill. There is nothing normal or natural about doing the things they do.

My preacher believes that things are getting better in the world. Not me.I know things are getting worse because I read the equivalent of 15 newspapers each day online (I suppose he is only reading the Bible).

[ImaGraftedBranch]

²¹For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. ²²Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools ²³and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles.
²⁴Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. ²⁵They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised. Amen.
²⁶Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. ²⁷In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
²⁸Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. ²⁹They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, ³⁰slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; ³¹they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless. ³²Although they know God's righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

[Billthedrill]

Odd you should mention it - I checked, and this is the American Psychiatric Association. It was the American Psychological Association that first came up with, (in sequential reports, no less), the claims that fathers were harmful to families and that sex with a man was beneficial to a boy.

But your point is a good one - headshrinker powwows seem to bring out the, er, exotic in these guys. Oh, well - cops grow to think of everyone as a criminal, and I suppose these folks come to think of everyone as nuts. Kinda makes things difficult for those of us who really are.

Dang it, I'm a "normophile." I wonder...is it a legitimate disability? Is there a government check in it for me?

[Right Wing Professor]

That slope sure is slippery. Looks like we're slidin' pretty fast.

[Slyfox]

"Any sexual interest," Moser concluded in his Archives commentary, "can be healthy and life-enhancing."

This guy is full of bull crap. Any sexual interest? Sexual sadism? Rape with a twinge of murder attached? Foot and diaper fetishes? Any sexual interest? This guy is knee-deep in bull crap.

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Briefs filed at the United States Supreme Court - John G. Lawrence, et al. v. Texas, No. 02-102, Alabama, South Carolina, and Utah (State Attorneys General) American Center for Law and JusticeJay Alan Sekulow, Counsel of Record American Family AssociationStephen M. Crampton, Counsel of Record Center for Arizona PolicyThis brief refutes the errors expressed in the opposing amicus submitted by the American Psychology Association. Len L. Munsil, Counsel of Record Center for Law and Justice InternationalPat Monaghan, Counsel of Record Center for the Original Intent of the ConstitutionMichael P. Farris, Counsel of Record Concerned Women for AmericaJanet M. LaRue, Counsel of Record Family Research Council & Focus on the FamilyRobert P. George, Counsel of Record Legislators, State of TexasKelly Shackelford, Counsel of Record Liberty CounselMathew D. Staver, Counsel of Record Pro Family Law CenterRichard Ackerman, Counsel of Record Texas Eagle Forum; Daughters of Liberty Republican Women of Houston, Texas; Spirit of Freedom Republican Women's ClubTeresa Stanton Collett, Counsel for Amici Curiae Texas Physicians Resource Council, Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association Glen Lavy, Counsel of Record United Families International

[Right Wing Professor]

Yeah. In particular, you really, really didn't want to share his toothbrush.

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