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Study: Gun Owners More Likely to Be Killed by Guns
NYT via Join Together Online ^ | May 27, 2003 | ERIC NAGOURNEY

Posted on 05/27/2003 1:43:27 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

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To: kstewskis
Yeah, the sources here really says a lot.
41 posted on 05/27/2003 2:08:42 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: Puppage
As reported by Jason Blair?

LOL....

It wasnt me honest boss....

The white establishment liberals who shouldnt have hired me because I wasnt qualified
and the other racists who wouldnt have hired me because of my color...they are to blame for my lying cheating low life mean mistreating ways
forget all that content of character jive

42 posted on 05/27/2003 2:09:38 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Yeah, does this mean less likely to be stabbed, beaten, or clubed to death? In other words, are they more likely to survive violent encounters, but don't do as well against attacker armed with guns as they do against those with knives?
43 posted on 05/27/2003 2:10:39 PM PDT by NYFriend
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
They would rather they was pushed outta windows...
45 posted on 05/27/2003 2:13:25 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
And I'm sure that almost all suicide victims knew their assailant and were killed with their own gun. Thank heavens for experts.
46 posted on 05/27/2003 2:16:03 PM PDT by muir_redwoods
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
The last time a study was done like this, they included gun owners who lived in crack houses. Naturally, they accounted for a large percentage of those killed by gunfire.
47 posted on 05/27/2003 2:18:30 PM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
So owning a gun makes one more likely to commit suicide? Sorry to be morbid, but people who are sucidal and own a gun will use the gun. Those who don't have one will find other means. Saying a gun makes one MORE LIKELY to commit suicide is crazy talk.
48 posted on 05/27/2003 2:19:04 PM PDT by baseballfanjm (The Red Sox= 2003 World Champs, Pedro and Nomar= World Series MVPs, Me= forever hopeful)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
More than half of victims knew their assailants, and 15 percent of killings arose from family arguments.

If a woman uses a gun to prevent someone she knows from raping or battering her, that figure is counted here. So....that's a bad thing, right??? She should have allowed it, right??? What am I missing???

49 posted on 05/27/2003 2:31:31 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Richard Kimball
"People who are shot are substantially more likely to die than people injured with non-gun weapons,"

I can see a lawsuit against the knife and brass-knuckle industries due to the ineffectiveness of their products.

50 posted on 05/27/2003 2:34:16 PM PDT by Onelifetogive
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
And people who keep tranquilizers and booze in their home are more likely to commit suicide by overdose than people who don't. What is the point? (Other than another attempt to display guns as having some sort of magical property.)
51 posted on 05/27/2003 2:36:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: ladtx
You better be worried about it affecting your brain. Are you wearing your tin foil hat so that the gun can't take control of your motor functions and make you kill yourself?
52 posted on 05/27/2003 2:39:13 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
How many of the homicides involved people who had guns illegally?
53 posted on 05/27/2003 2:39:25 PM PDT by Chewbacca (My life is a Dilbert cartoon.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Maybe I should lock it up in a lead-lined case. I've tried wearing tinfoil at night but it always winds up on the floor.
54 posted on 05/27/2003 2:41:37 PM PDT by ladtx ("...the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." D. MacArthur)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Did you catch the manipulation inherent already in the clippet?

16 times more likely to commit suicide using guns.

Whoops!

Without a gun...suicide is committed by some other way 105% of the time (Canadians were surprised). Yes...105% of the time...more suicides.

So...let's take suicides off the table...now the 2x number no longer holds the entire study falls apart and the demonized gun owners are now unlikely heroes.
55 posted on 05/27/2003 2:49:53 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: dirtboy
Absolutely not...that wouldn't provide the statistics they needed to report.
56 posted on 05/27/2003 2:50:51 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: martianagent
Or jump out a window ...
57 posted on 05/27/2003 2:51:31 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Spiff
Which makes their cooked statistics look even worse...LOL!
58 posted on 05/27/2003 2:52:08 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
No...the suicide rate went *up*...but firearms weren't involved, so it's OK.
59 posted on 05/27/2003 2:53:02 PM PDT by Maelstrom (To prevent misinterpretation or abuse of the Constitution:The Bill of Rights limits government power)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
My study shows liberals are more likely to die from lying!
60 posted on 05/27/2003 2:54:57 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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