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US plans death camp
Herald Sun ^ | May 26, 2003 | Anon

Posted on 05/26/2003 12:16:13 AM PDT by BlackVeil

THE US has floated plans to turn Guantanamo Bay into a death camp, with its own death row and execution chamber.

Prisoners would be tried, convicted and executed without leaving its boundaries, without a jury and without right of appeal, The Mail on Sunday newspaper reported yesterday.

The plans were revealed by Major-General Geoffrey Miller, who is in charge of 680 suspects from 43 countries, including two Australians.

The suspects have been held at Camp Delta on Cuba without charge for 18 months.

General Miller said building a death row was one plan. Another was to have a permanent jail, with possibly an execution chamber.

The Mail on Sunday reported the move is seen as logical by the US, which has been attacked worldwide for breaching the Geneva Convention on prisoners of war since it established the camp at a naval base to hold alleged terrorists from Afghanistan.

But it has horrified human rights groups and lawyers representing detainees.

They see it as the clearest indication America has no intention of falling in line with internationally recognised justice.

The US has already said detainees would be tried by tribunals, without juries or appeals to a higher court. Detainees will be allowed only US lawyers.

British activist Stephen Jakobi, of Fair Trials Abroad, said: "The US is kicking and screaming against any pressure to conform with British or any other kind of international justice."

American law professor Jonathan Turley, who has led US civil rights group protests against the military tribunals planned to hear cases at Guantanamo Bay, said: "It is not surprising the authorities are building a death row because they have said they plan to try capital cases before these tribunals.

"This camp was created to execute people. The administration has no interest in long-term prison sentences for people it regards as hard-core terrorists."

Britain admitted it had been kept in the dark about the plans.

A Downing St spokesman said: "The US Government is well aware of the British Government's position on the death penalty."

Herald Sun


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cravingzot; gitmo
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1 posted on 05/26/2003 12:16:13 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
Kill em. Kill em all.
2 posted on 05/26/2003 12:22:10 AM PDT by zarf (Republicans for Sharpton 2004)
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To: BlackVeil
Death camp would be ideal for the scum who wrote this hit piece.
3 posted on 05/26/2003 12:22:13 AM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: BlackVeil
"The administration has no interest in long-term prison sentences for people it regards as hard-core terrorists."

And the problem with this is??? Humanity has no interest in keeping "hard core terrorists" incarcerated for long terms. It's all just a lot more simple in every respect to make them martyrs - exactly as they originally desired. We're providing a service to them.

4 posted on 05/26/2003 12:23:55 AM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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The plans were revealed by Major-General Geoffrey Miller, who is in charge of 680 suspects ...

Is this from a press conference? Is it being discussed in America?

5 posted on 05/26/2003 12:23:56 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: BlackVeil
Cant this be pulled???
6 posted on 05/26/2003 12:24:28 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: noutopia
Could be. But it is a discussion piece.
7 posted on 05/26/2003 12:25:32 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: noutopia
Why pull it?
8 posted on 05/26/2003 12:26:28 AM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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To: 11B3
The British newspapers are trash and most of what they print are lies.
9 posted on 05/26/2003 12:30:47 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: noutopia
Calling for censorship?
Not in America!
10 posted on 05/26/2003 12:33:01 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
Very sorry.
11 posted on 05/26/2003 12:35:08 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: BlackVeil
They should be tried under Islamic law.

Then put to death in accordance with that law.

12 posted on 05/26/2003 12:35:39 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: noutopia
That particular newspaper is Australian, although they are quoting British sources. Herald Sun is widely read - a tabloid - will reach a lot of people in Australia.
13 posted on 05/26/2003 12:37:41 AM PDT by BlackVeil
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To: Pistolshot
And here's just the machine for these "Death Camps"!

It's a huge tub grinder, appropriately named "HOGZILLA".

14 posted on 05/26/2003 12:39:14 AM PDT by 11B3 (We live in "interesting times". Indeed.)
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To: Pistolshot
No that would be crule and unususal.Cant treat them like they treet our POWs.
15 posted on 05/26/2003 12:40:46 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: BlackVeil
Let the anti-Teliban Afghanis and anti-Saddam Iraqis deal with them. Ship them all over this week and lets move on.
16 posted on 05/26/2003 12:41:35 AM PDT by Consort
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Cruel and unusual?

What planet are you on?

Islamic law would dictate the penalty for the crimes these people have committed. Tried in a court using the very law they proclaim to be following would be pure justice.

17 posted on 05/26/2003 12:44:15 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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To: Pistolshot
Should have put a sarcasim thing up there huh.Read up.
18 posted on 05/26/2003 12:47:21 AM PDT by noutopia
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To: BlackVeil
This is really upsetting:

I bet the gubmint will ignore the gender and minority guidelines when hiring contractors to build this thing 'cuz they're outside the jurisdiction of the US civil courts.

Pisses me right off. /sarc

19 posted on 05/26/2003 12:50:21 AM PDT by dasboot (Everything that should be up, is up.)
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"It's a huge tub grinder, appropriately named "HOGZILLA"

That expensive machine would be a waste of taxpayers money. They should take an example from the San Diego chicken farmers using a chipper for disposal of their unwanted chickens as a reasonable solution to a "death chamber". They wouldn't even have to buy one, just go to the local rental yard and rent one for a couple of days.
20 posted on 05/26/2003 12:59:51 AM PDT by dalereed
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