1 posted on
05/25/2003 11:41:45 PM PDT by
TLBSHOW
To: TLBSHOW
What a whiner!
2 posted on
05/25/2003 11:43:12 PM PDT by
Qwerty
To: TLBSHOW
Did she tee from the Blue or Red Tees?
3 posted on
05/25/2003 11:44:49 PM PDT by
america-rules
(I'm one proud American right now !)
To: TLBSHOW
I agree, she was a circus act. The President of the women's tour said they would not let a professional man play on their tour.
This chick can play the mens tour for ten years and never win.
Put Tiger on the women's tour and he can win at will for the next 20-30 years perhaps straight.
Silly publicity stunt.
4 posted on
05/25/2003 11:50:02 PM PDT by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: TLBSHOW
AIEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Enough already.
5 posted on
05/25/2003 11:51:04 PM PDT by
RichInOC
(If the Stanley Cup could talk, it'd say: "I'm Going To Disneyland!")
To: TLBSHOW
"Lady golfers have their own little golfing group, the LPGA. There, they can pretend that they are real golfers and stay out of mens way."
Women can't be "real golfers"? It's a "fluke" that she beat some of the men? No, I don't think forcing a group to accept someone who doesn't qualify is a good idea, but why insult women golfers, who probably work just as hard on their own level to play golf? It's not as though all male golfers are unbeatable by virtue of their gender. Sheer strength isn't the sum total of this particular game, although it's an important factor. Perhaps both groups ought to have some mixed tournaments, all playing with the same rules, and see what happens. It was ridiculous to use such an important event to try to change the rules of the PGA.
10 posted on
05/26/2003 12:29:15 AM PDT by
skr
To: TLBSHOW
This guy has it all wrong. The mens tour will not have a lady qualified to compete on the PGA. But not because it is wrong for one to.
Annika beat 11 guys who played the worst golf that they can play. While Annika was focused beyond any LPGA major event she could have entered. She is in another class on the LPGA and knows how to handle tournament golf better than most of the 11 guys she beat.
On a good day for those 11 men, compared to her best day, they could beat her by 10 shots.
Baring a woman of extremely freakish strength and determination, there will be no women qualified to play on the PGA. If one that can qualify comes along, let her play. Don't let her take a golf cart though.
I wonder how the Royal and Ancient weighs in on this.
11 posted on
05/26/2003 12:39:29 AM PDT by
bondserv
To: TLBSHOW; All
The decision as to whether there should be women playing again on the PGA Tour should be up to the SPONSOR and the COUNTRY CLUB's MEMBERS.
If the PGA and LPGA don't want to allow mixed genders in the future, then they shouldn't allow Sponsor's wildcard invitations (or whatever the invitations were called that allowed Annika).
There is NO need for a PGA and an LPGA! There should be a Professional Golfing Assn and a Semi-Professional Golfing Assn, depending on ABILITY not gender.
To: TLBSHOW
First, the eleven guys that were beaten by a chick should turn in their manhood cards immediately and start new careers befitting their statures; maybe organizing Sex in the City fan clubs or something.
* * *** ** * * ***
Proof Golf is too easy.
This means make PGA golf harder.
To: TLBSHOW
At first I was opposed to her being granted an exemption. Then I found out there was a qualifying round. Hey, if she can make the cut, then best wishes. She finished something like 96'th. I am not picking on women, or jews, or blacks. I am only saying there are sometimes things which a certain group are inherently better at. Mankind cannot survive if it takes on an unnatural view of the world.
17 posted on
05/26/2003 2:31:02 AM PDT by
djf
To: TLBSHOW
the PGA gave her preferential treatment because she was a circus act.What was the preferential treatment they gave her?
To: TLBSHOW
Annika has no business playing in the all-male PGA#1, the PGA is not all-male in the same way the LPGA is all-female. The PGA is open to PGs who qualify.
#2, a female golfer could, in theory, win a PGA tournament.
Why not leave the issue up to the number of strokes she takes to get the little white ball in the hole?
To: TLBSHOW
If the feminists manage to force a true elimination of distinctions in sport, an official and legal total real integration of sport with no discrimination based on sex , women will disappear from professional sports almost completely and will be sent to the margins in college and high school sports.
To: TLBSHOW
Sabia's great, he is the next Ann Coulter..
42 posted on
05/26/2003 6:16:20 AM PDT by
ewing
To: TLBSHOW
This kid is definitely not ready for prime time . . .
43 posted on
05/26/2003 6:24:12 AM PDT by
Timmy
To: TLBSHOW
Annika could give this pompous jerk 5 strokes per side and still beat him by ten, I bet.p>
44 posted on
05/26/2003 6:28:38 AM PDT by
Timmy
To: TLBSHOW
Annika did nothing wrong. She played one very good round, and pushed too hard on the second round (a common mistake).
Bank of America got the publicity they wanted, and adhered to their rules to get her in the event. It might have been better if she had qualified instead of getting the exemption, but that's rather picky.
The only problem I have is the inherent hypocrisy of "the women's movement" supporters. There are 3 possible arrangements, two of which are fair and equal. They, of course, desperately promote the third, which is one-sided, sexist, and hypocritical. Those arrangements:
1) All tournaments (in the PGA and LPGA) are open to all, without regard to gender. All qualifying rules, tee selection, and requirements are the same, regardless of gender.
2) The PGA and LPGA are open only to those of their respective genders.
3) The PGA must accept women, while the LPGA excludes all males. This patently unfair position is, of course, what most "enlightened" women avidly advocate today.
Either women's groups continue their moronic "women are the same as men" ideology and qualify under the same conditions as men, or they accept the "separate but equal" solution of two golf associations and stop whining about being excluded from the PGA when they exclude men fron the LPGA. These are the only two fair approaches. Anything else is unequal treatment for two gender-defined groups, an oddly common position for today's women's groups who promote themselves as fighting for gender equity.
To: TLBSHOW
On May 23, The San Jose Mercury News declared Sorenstam shows em. Shows who? The chauvinists? The naysayers? The lesbians? Who?I'm still trying to figure this one out.
She finished in the bottom 10% OF THE FIELD. I'm sure the PGA could have gotten 100,000 amateurs to have matched Sorenstam's "inspirational" performance if THAT was what this stunt was all about....
99,900 would have been men.
52 posted on
05/26/2003 9:41:47 AM PDT by
F16Fighter
(Democrats -- The Party of Stalin and Chiraq)
To: TLBSHOW
Is my view on this matter extreme? Am I out of touch?Yeah Sabia, you are.
You're a superficial jerk.
There's not a doggone thing wrong with women competing against men in the PGA, if they want to.
The question is: why would they want to when human evolution gives men a distinctive physical advantage?
Why should women want to compete in a sport where Nature has already predetermined that the best women will NEVER beat the best men?
The evidence is already clear from other athletic events where men and women perform identical tasks:
Track and Field:
100m dash: men - 9.78 sec; women - 10.49 sec
Mile run: men - 3:43.13; women - 4:12.56
Long jump: men - 29' 4.5"; women - 24' 8.25"
Swimming: 400m individual medley: men - 4:10.73; women - 4:33.59
And so on and so on....
There is no need to bar women from competing directly against men in any of these events. In fact, if a woman should ever happen to win, it would be a remarkable athletic achievement that I'd truly love to witness. The trouble is: nature already dictates that it ain't gonna happen.
So why should women want to compete against men?
Motivational theory teaches us that goals must be percieved as realisticly achievable, otherwise they simply become a source of continous frustration and discouragement. So why should they want to compete in the contest that they have no chance of winning?
I imagine it is simply for the challenge, to see how they measure up.
I have no problems with that. Women at the top of the field in their own league have earned the right to demonstrate their skills against male competitors. I see no reason for mocking their efforts to achieve the impossible.
Similarly, I see no reason to denigrate the existance of the women-only restrictions of the LPGA. The purpose of the LPGA is to encourage female participation in golf both competitively and recreationally. I have no problems with that either.
54 posted on
05/26/2003 10:20:18 AM PDT by
Willie Green
(Go Pat Go!!!)
To: TLBSHOW
First, the eleven guys that were beaten by a chick should turn in their manhood cards immediately and start new careers befitting their statures; maybe organizing Sex in the City fan clubs or something. Second, just because a woman scores a fluke and beats a few men does not mean that she is qualified to golf in the PGA . . .Actually, she proved she can be competitive with the dregs of the male players on the PGA tour. Toward the end of the tour the PGA should sponsor a special tournament comprising the bottom 10 percent of the men on the tour, and allow women from the LPGA to enter as well.
That might be a competitive male-female event. I'm not sure who would watch it, but it would solve the diversity question.
To: TLBSHOW
If a woman golfer can prove they're good enough to play on the PGA tour then I have no problem with it. And right now Annika S is the best female player in the world but she proved last weekend she's not good enough to play on the PGA tour with the men.
75 posted on
05/28/2003 12:02:28 PM PDT by
SB00
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