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Friedman: Hummers Here, Hummers There
The New York Times ^ | 05/25/03 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 05/24/2003 5:05:16 PM PDT by Pokey78

In the wake of the recent terrorist bombings in Riyadh, Saudi officials seem to have — pardon the expression — gotten religion. They say they now understand that suicide terrorism in the name of Islam is as much a threat to them as it is to the open societies of the West. This time, they insist, they're going to crack down on their extremists. I hope so, but I fear we have a deeper problem with Saudi Arabia. I fear it is the Soviet Union. I fear it is unreformable.

I fear that the ruling brothers of Saudi Arabia are like the Soviet Politburo. I fear the 6,000 Saudi princes are like the Communist Party Central Committee. I fear that Riyadh is Red Square. I fear the Al-Sauds used Islamism to unite 40 fractious tribes in Arabia the way Lenin used Communism to unite 100 fractious nationalities across Russia. And I fear that Osama bin Laden is just the evil version of Andrei Sakharov — the dissident Soviet scientist who exposed the system from within. Sakharov was exiled to Gorky. Bin Laden was exiled to Kabul. And both systems meet their end where? In Afghanistan.

Even if this parallel is off, and the Saudi system could be reformed without collapsing, I fear that the Saudi ruling family has become too dysfunctional, divided and insecure to undertake this task. Surely one test is whether Saudi officials and spiritual leaders can condemn Islamic suicide terrorism, not just when it is against them, but when it is against people of other faiths — no matter what the context. Saudi Arabia's neighbors — Jordan, Bahrain, Qatar and Oman — are experimenting with elections, a freer press, women's rights and free trade with America. Saudi Arabia, by contrast, has been drifting under an ailing king, trying to buy a different perception of itself with better advertising rather than with deeper reform.

Frankly, I have a soft spot for the de facto Saudi ruler, Crown Prince Abdullah, who is a man of decency and moderation. But he's too nice for his own good. He needs to break heads at home, force some sustained reforms on his religious establishment, revive his own peace initiative and begin to empower his women — because women's empowerment is the best antidote to extremism.

The problem with Saudi Arabia is not that it has too little democracy. It's that it has too much. The ruling family is so insecure, it feels it has to consult every faction, tribe and senior cleric before making any decision. This makes Saudi Arabia a very strange autocracy: it's a country where one man makes no decisions.

If this continues, we must protect ourselves — by telling the Saudis, and ourselves, the truth.

In private, Bush aides have been fuming: The U.S. gave the Saudis intelligence warnings before the recent attacks, but they took no steps to deter them. Publicly, though, the Bush team bites its tongue. We never talk straight to Saudi Arabia, because we are addicted to its oil. Addicts never tell the truth to their pushers.

If we were telling the Saudis the truth, we would tell them that their antimodern and antipluralist brand of Islam — known as Wahhabism — combined with their oil wealth has become a destabilizing force in the world. By financing mosques and schools that foster the least tolerant version of Islam, they are breeding the very extremists who are trying to burn down their house and ours.

But we also need to tell ourselves the truth. We constantly complain about the blank checks the Saudis write to buy off their extremists. But who writes the blank checks to the Saudis? We do — with our gluttonous energy habits, renewed addiction to big cars, and our president who has made "conservation" a dirty word.

In the wake of the Iraq war, the E.P.A. announced that the average fuel economy of America's cars and trucks fell to its lowest level in 22 years, with the 2002 model year. That is a travesty. No wonder foreigners think we sent our U.S. Army Humvees to control Iraq, just so we could drive more G.M. Hummers over here. When our president insists that we can have it all — big cars, big oil, lower taxes, with no sacrifices or conservation — why shouldn't the world believe that all we are about is protecting our right to binge?

And so the circle is complete: President Bush won't tell Americans the truth, so we won't tell Saudis the truth, so they won't tell their extremists the truth, so they can go on pumping intolerance and we can go on guzzling gas. Someday, our kids will condemn us for all of this.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: thomaslfriedman
Poor guy sounds like he's about to slit his wrists.
1 posted on 05/24/2003 5:05:16 PM PDT by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
No bias here!! Just a straightforward presentation of facts...NOT!!!

Honesty is not the strong suit of the Old Grey Liar, the New York Slimes.

2 posted on 05/24/2003 5:08:49 PM PDT by friendly
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To: Pokey78
Actually, I'm thrilled that my kids are going to live to "condemn me" because of the safety of my family's Hummer. I LOVE IT!
3 posted on 05/24/2003 5:09:46 PM PDT by volchef (Visualize whirrled peas.)
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To: Pokey78
"Saudi ruler, Crown Prince Abdullah...He needs to break heads at home, force some sustained reforms on his religious establishment"

Case closed. The rest of the article is trash.

4 posted on 05/24/2003 5:16:58 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Pokey78
Hey, I would settle if the NY Slimes would tell the truth.

Lazy reporters get their assignments from the DNC print the lies, damn lies, and slander. The lib pols then quote this trash as gospel.

Cozy little circle, and the Ole Gray Ho gets perks, gifts, and the undisclosed sorces with the latest negative crap.

5 posted on 05/24/2003 5:21:44 PM PDT by TUX
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To: Pokey78; yall
I don't 'get' your attitude with the article fellas..

Saudi Arabia seems to be about ready to self destruct, and you guys see no problem?
6 posted on 05/24/2003 5:34:00 PM PDT by tpaine (Really, I'm trying to be a 'decent human being', but me flesh is weak.,)
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To: bigfootbob; Pokey78
No, the NYT is trying to help:

He needs to break heads at home, force some sustained reforms on his religious establishment, revive his own peace initiative and begin to empower his women — because women's empowerment is the best antidote to extremism.

More empowerment fatwa from Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi:

One of the leading Muslim scholars has issued a fatwa permitting women to carry out suicide attacks. . . snip . . "This obligation reaches the extent that a woman should go out for jihad even without the permission of her husband, and the son without the consent of his parents," he added.

7 posted on 05/24/2003 5:41:05 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: Pokey78
i think he was drunk when he wrote this. By the way, his definition of democracy is enlightening. What he postulates as democracy in SA would have it's equivelant here of consulting the NAACP, NOW, the AFL-CIO, and the DNC and announcing the result of these negotiations represented the will of the people!
8 posted on 05/24/2003 5:42:50 PM PDT by Arkie2
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To: tpaine
He was critical of Bush's energy policy near the end- and is a moderate liberal and Democrat thus anything he says can be dismissed as "trash".
9 posted on 05/24/2003 5:46:13 PM PDT by Agricola
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To: Pokey78
So it's not about Bill Clinton.

Surprised me! ;^)
10 posted on 05/24/2003 5:50:08 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: volchef

Slip into something a little more ... metal.

MMMMM MMMM MMMMMM....HM MMMMM MMMM MMMMM! <|:)~

11 posted on 05/24/2003 6:22:16 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: tpaine
Friedman makes some good points here. The house of Saud has been too timid to make a move one way or the other. The fall of Iraq has got to make the Saudis nervous. We have winked at the Saudi indecision for many years and over several administrations because they keep oil flowing here. If the USA is moderately successful in bringing some form of stable democratic, free market system to Iraq, we will be much less dependent on Saudia Arabia for oil price stability. As a result, the USA will be much less indulgent. The Saudis will then be faced with having either to 1) Get a spine transplant and stand up to the radical Islamics; or 2) Get a spine transplant and tell the USA to go to hell. While America will be helpful to the Saudis in prosecuting choice # 1, the radical Islamists won't be much help to the Saudis in brushing off America (remember Afganistan). Recognizing the true situation is going to be a painful process to the House of Saud. The Saudis are not going to like to tell their domestic radicals to straighten up their acts or else, but as a practical matter they will have little choice.
12 posted on 05/24/2003 6:24:03 PM PDT by Tom D.
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To: Pokey78
Tom Friedman is such a jackass. His condescending style truly grates as he states the obvious. Namely, Saudi Arabia is a dysfunctional terrorist state. And true to form, he ends with soriety girl bitchiness about Bush and gasoline prices.

What a friggin joke.
13 posted on 05/24/2003 7:19:17 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: Maynerd
I like your description of the article.
14 posted on 05/24/2003 7:50:59 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: martin_fierro
Nice Hummer!
15 posted on 05/24/2003 9:45:46 PM PDT by St. Germain
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To: martin_fierro
Democracy!

Whiskey!

and Sexy!
16 posted on 05/24/2003 9:54:52 PM PDT by Noumenon (Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away. --Philip K. Dick)
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To: Pokey78
By the title, I assumed it was a recap of the Clinton years. Are all the editors at the NYT complete idiots? How could they let a title like this, get by?
17 posted on 05/25/2003 10:23:10 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Pokey78
"Someday, our kids will condemn us for all of this."

...what my Wife said when I bought the BETA-MAX!

18 posted on 05/25/2003 12:51:11 PM PDT by jaz.357 (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: Pokey78
G.M. Hummers? I'd like one but for now will have to take my Hummers with a little vanilla ice-cream and brandy - hummmmmm!
19 posted on 05/25/2003 5:38:37 PM PDT by yoe (Hillary is not a Centrist - never was; never will be.......)
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