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Washington State Judge Rules Seat Belt Law Unconstitutional
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | May 22, 2003 | The Associated Press

Posted on 05/22/2003 1:25:58 AM PDT by A44MAGNUT

Skagit County judge refuses to enforce seat belt law

MOUNT VERNON -- A Skagit County Superior Court judge has refused to enforce the state's seat belt law, finding it too vague. That decision also led the judge to dismiss drug and weapons charges filed in the same case.

Judge Susan Cook ruled that the seat belt law is unconstitutionally vague because it refers to federal safety standards regarding which vehicles must be equipped with seat belts.

"This statute fails to inform the average citizen of the location or legal citation of the federal standard it adopts," she wrote in a letter outlining her decision to suppress evidence gathered as the result of a traffic stop in the case against a 31-year-old Everett man. "It is likewise unclear how a citizen of common intelligence should discover that location."

Similar rulings in 1995 forced the state to change its regulations identifying approved helmets for motorcycle riders under the state's mandatory helmet law.

It was unclear what effect Cook's recent decision would have on other cases in Skagit County.

Public defense attorneys told The Skagit Valley Herald they got the idea for challenging the seat belt law from an earlier case in Pacific County. They said they would seek dismissal of all seat belt cases in Skagit County on June 9. Prosecutors said they planned to appeal the ruling.

"We respect Judge Cook's opinion," Washington State Patrol Capt. Glenn Cramer said Wednesday. "We consider this a public safety issue. We will continue to enforce the seat belt statute."

The case began in February, when a State Patrol trooper stopped a pickup truck carrying three people on Washington 20. The trooper said he had noticed the passenger nearest the door was not wearing a seat belt. A change in state law last year made not wearing a seat belt a primary offense that law enforcement could use to make a traffic stop.

During the stop, the trooper reported smelling marijuana and alcohol and seeing a bottle of whiskey with some of the liquor gone.

The trooper discovered two outstanding warrants against the passenger nearest the door and arrested him.

A search also uncovered a small tin containing marijuana, a Cobray M-11 9mm handgun and ammunition. The Everett man, who had been sitting between the driver and the passenger who had drawn the trooper's notice, admitted the drugs and weapon were his, according to State Patrol reports. As a convicted felon, the man was barred from legally possessing a gun.

In her May 15 ruling, Cook suppressed that evidence, since it flowed from enforcement of a law she found unconstitutional, and dismissed the drug and weapons charges based on that evidence.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: seatbelt

1 posted on 05/22/2003 1:25:58 AM PDT by A44MAGNUT
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To: A44MAGNUT
"We respect Judge Cook's opinion," Washington State Patrol Capt. Glenn Cramer said Wednesday. "We consider this a public safety issue. We will continue to enforce the seat belt statute."

Translation: "We don't care what the courts say, we're in it for the money."
2 posted on 05/22/2003 1:35:50 AM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: A44MAGNUT; JohnHuang2; MadIvan; TonyInOhio; MeeknMing; itreei; jd792; Molly Pitcher; muggs; ...
Describe "unconstitutionally vague" ! That seems to me for some reason an odd way to phrase it.

It could be because the seatbelt law is Intrusive and Unconstitutional to begin with ?

3 posted on 05/22/2003 2:36:28 AM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK ("A conviction that we are right accomplishes half the difficulty of correcting wrong." --T Jefferson)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Describe "unconstitutionally vague"

A laws is supposed to have enough precision that the person who reads it will know whether it applies to him, or to the facts of his case.

In this case, the Washington State law didn't say "vehicles equipped with seat belts," but referred instead to Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

A far cry from enforcing your sentiment (mine too, BTW) that seatbelt laws are too intrusive.

4 posted on 05/22/2003 3:02:53 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: A44MAGNUT
Seat belt laws will be generally ignored.

State legislators who insist on enforcing them do so at their own elective peril.


BUMP

5 posted on 05/22/2003 3:11:45 AM PDT by tm22721 (May the UN rest in peace)
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To: A44MAGNUT
We consider this a public safety issue.

I consider it a reduction of liberty issue because you're not really free unless you're free enough to make a dumb decision.

Interestingly, here in Florida the mandatory motorcycle helmet law has been repealed. So, it's legal to ride a motorcycle without a helmet. However, a helmet is still required to ride a bicycle.

6 posted on 05/22/2003 3:39:46 AM PDT by libertylover (Support for abortion is caused by the same flawed thinking that supported slavery.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
I remember when Texas passed the mandatory seat belt law. Seems it was about 10-12 years ago? Not sure.

Anyway, I had always worn a seat belt when I got behind the wheel at age 16, LONG before the seat belt law came along. Driver safety class convinced me that if you're involved in a collision, your odds of surviving were greater. Well, I've never had a collision in a car other than a few little fender benders, but I still believe in the safety stats.

we now return to our regularly scheduled program. :O)

7 posted on 05/22/2003 5:25:37 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: tm22721
State legislators who insist on enforcing them do so at their own elective peril.

What peril? Who knows who wrote the bill, much less who voted for it?

8 posted on 05/22/2003 8:58:22 AM PDT by Eala ("Here in France I feel at home." --Madonna. So go already.)
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To: Eala
>>State legislators who insist on enforcing them do so at their own elective peril.

What peril? Who knows who wrote the bill, much less who voted for it? <<

You have it exactly right. When the mandatory seat belt law was passed, the legislature promised it would never be a primary (stoppable) violation by itself, it was purely to get federal dollars from the NTSC. Now, in order to maximize the dollars from NTSC since we have an over 90% compliance rate which is great, they have to do something to that last 10%.

Seat belt police.

I've been in a few accidents where I know my forehead would have hit the windshield. I wear seatbelts religiously and know it is a good thing. I also know that an ill fitting seat belt is an incredibly bad thing. This law does nothing to help properly fit seat belts for adults. It is just for dollars from the NTSC.

DK
9 posted on 05/29/2003 2:43:41 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Dark Knight
Many years ago my life was saved by a seatbelt -- that I'd installed a week earlier (the 1959 Nash Metropolitan had never them). I always wear it.

It is just for dollars from the NTSC.

IMHO, this is the truly frightening thing. I've seen bad legislation passed just for the federal monies it would bring, or continue to bring. (In at least one or two cases, several years back, I recall demonstrating how the law could very easily cost the state a lot more than the federal money on the table they'd give up by not passing -- but because the costs are hidden the laws pass.)

10 posted on 05/29/2003 3:01:34 PM PDT by Eala ("Here in France I feel at home." --Madonna. So go already.)
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To: Eala
>>In at least one or two cases, several years back, I recall demonstrating how the law could very easily cost the state a lot more than the federal money on the table they'd give up by not passing -- but because the costs are hidden the laws pass.<<

Or the costs are passed to the citizens. Which ones, I'm interested.

DK
11 posted on 05/29/2003 3:07:59 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Dark Knight
go to the nearest freightliner dealer and ask to look inside of a truck, any truck...you will see a small yellow plastic device that the seat belt goes thru on the wall of the cab beside the driver seat and the passenger seat. You fasten your seat belt and pull some slack so it is not binding on your neck...push a little plastic thingamabob up and it locks the seat belt in place. The seat belt doesn't irritate or bind on you and the slightest pressure releases the belt and lets it function normally. This device installed on passeger vehiclew would probably add $20.00 to the price of a car or pickup.
12 posted on 05/29/2003 3:18:23 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: cajun-jack
I'm not surprised the easy answer is from the trucking industry, I'm just unhappy that the NTSC who knows about the problem, doesn't put any emphasis on it.

A twenty dollar solution, is about the same as the Pinto gas tank solution. It makes me shudder wondering how many more there are.

Thanks for the info!
DK
13 posted on 05/29/2003 3:27:33 PM PDT by Dark Knight
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