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President Bush and the GOP Poised to Sell-out Gun Owners
Armed Females of America ^ | 19 May 2003 | Nicki Fellenzer

Posted on 05/20/2003 11:38:12 AM PDT by 45Auto

Well, here we go again. Power-hungry cowards in Congress are once again seeking to ram gun control down our throats, and this time, our president – the man who was painted as a friend to the some 80 million-gun owners in this country by the National Republican Apologists (NRA) – says he will sign it if it reaches his desk.

But my goal today is not to take aim at the NRA for its obsequious and quite obvious silence on the G.W. Bush promise to sign the odious legislation to expand and make permanent the Clinton “Assault” weapons ban of 1994 into law – although God and Goddess know the NRA’s hypocrisy and ass kissing of the seat of power are glaring, to say the least. No, today I’m taking on the President himself…

· For playing political games with our freedoms;

· For maneuvering and dodging instead of taking a courageous stand;

· And for trying to appease the anti-freedom maggots in congress and at Handgun Control, Inc. (And no, I won’t call it the “Brady Center.” They are what they are, regardless of the name change.)

Consider this: George W. Bush is a man who ran on the premise that he was a friend of the Second Amendment. In the 2000 elections, the NRA drooled at the prospect of having Bush in office. An excerpt from a story on Boston.com tells the story quite well: “On the NRA tape, [Kayne] Robinson calls Gore an ‘antigun fanatic’ and said electing him would be a ‘horror story.’ But with Bush, the likely Republican nominee, they will have ‘unbelievably friendly relations.’”

In October, 2000, then-NRA President Charlton Heston stomped around the country urging gun owners to vote for George W. Bush, describing the presidential campaign as "a holy war" for the constitutional rights of gun owners.

And now, the President to whom a large number of gun owners gave their vote – a sacred trust to protect their rights and the US Constitution – is underhandedly voicing his tacit support for the permanent ban of certain types of firearms. No, he’s not proud of his support. He’s keeping a low profile, letting his lackeys do the talking, while keeping conspicuously silent himself. If the ban never sees his desk, his spin-doctors can twist the sad facts into a positive development for the Bush Presidency: An odious Clintonesque gun control bill was killed during our brave leader’s reign!

If Congress passes H.R. 2038, and Bush signs it into law, you can expect a very large number of gun owners and patriots to turn away from Bush and from the Republican party. There’s no excuse for this heinous, unconstitutional legislation to see the light of day – not when we have a Republican majority in Congress and a Republican White House. Republicans are supposed to be gun owners’ friends, right?

Apparently, they aren’t. Apparently Republicans are just as willing to play politics with our rights as the Democrats. According to Newsday.com, “[House] Speaker Dennis Hastert opened the door Thursday to a vote on extending an assault weapons ban that expires next year, and the leader of House Democrats prodded President Bush to urge the Republican leadership to bring the bill to the floor.” It sure doesn’t sound like the Republicans are any better friends to gun owners than the Democrats. They’ll violate your rights just to appear “moderate” just as quickly as the Democrats, hoping their tepid reluctance will earn them brownie points.

Well, time has come to say it: Mr. President, you and your Republican cohorts are cowards and hypocrites, and gun owners know it!

Yes, I’m saying it loud and clear, so that you and your lackeys can read and revel in this fact. You have no courage. You have no integrity. You bend to the political convenience of the moment, because it’s the quickest road to re-election, and you think that little red, white and blue elephant on your lapel, your patriotic pictures on the USS Abraham Lincoln and your war on terrorism will erase or obscure this fact and that your membership in the Republican party will shield you from the wrath of those you have betrayed.

You feel complacent because you feel gun owners will support you regardless, because you happen to be the lesser of the two evils. You feel secure, shrouded in the Republican banner, because gun owners have consistently and loyally voted Republican. Well, I suggest you stop feeling secure, sir. Because gun owners don’t appreciate cowards and hypocrites. We don’t appreciate compromising twits, who will do anything to appear “moderate” while trading away our rights for a few votes. We appreciate truth, integrity and courage.

If you had any gonads at all, you would stand up and say, “I want to ban all the so-called ‘assault’ weapons and I will support any legislation which accomplishes this goal,” and then allow law-abiding and freedom-loving citizens of this country to turn away from you, as you know they will.

But no, you won’t do that, Mr. Bush, because politics are apparently much more important to you than principles. You want reelection so bad, you can taste it, and it appears you’ll do anything – even sell law-abiding gun owners to the socialist wolves – to get it.

The legislation you are too afraid to state your support for is a pernicious piece of garbage that will do nothing more than place further limits on our freedoms.

H.R. 2038 – the “Assault” weapons ban will do nothing to stop crime. Prior to the Clinton ban, a Bureau of Justice Statistics survey reported that in 1991, about 8 percent of state inmates had possessed a so-called “assault” weapon. Care to guess how many carried said weapon in the commission of a crime? LESS THAN ONE PERCENT.

A Virginia inmate survey conducted prior to the 1994 ban showed that while about 10 percent of incarcerated criminals ever owned an “assault” weapon, none had carried it at the scene of a crime.

Meanwhile, in 1997 – four years after the Clinton ban was passed – 1.5 percent of state inmates and 1.7 percent of federal inmates admitted to having used a weapon made illegal by the Clinton ban.

Both numbers are insignificant, but some are more insignificant than others. More criminals used the banned “assault” weapons during the commission of their crimes after the ban than before. Even now, the number of criminals who use “assault” weapons is pathetically small.

So what is the purpose of this ban?

Is it to reduce crime? Apparently not, since said weapons are rarely used to commit offenses.

It bans, among other things, pistol grips, folding telescopic stocks, threaded barrels, forward grips and barrel shrouds – none of which make a gun any more or less “dangerous” and none of which pose any threat to law enforcement. And yet, the legislation carries the deceptive name, Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003, even though it has no hope of “protecting” the already protected elite – the police, who are, of course, exempt from the bill’s provisions.

What you are tacitly supporting, Mr. Bush is nothing less than an attempt to ram yet more gun control down the throats of the American public. It’s not about crime, it’s not about protection, it’s about control, and if you are not part of the solution, then you are part of the problem –

- a problem we, gun owners, plan to battle and win.

If you are not to be a part of it, so be it. But at least have the courage to stand up and admit it, instead of hiding from the truth.

Admit that you would support an ineffective and unconstitutional ban on firearms for a political purpose.

Admit that you are too cowardly to stand up to Schumer, McCarthy, Feinstein and their weak-minded socialist brethren, because you’re afraid you’ll lose votes.

Don’t sit in the White House and have your lackeys proclaim what a great, courageous independent minded leader you are, because you’re willing to part with the NRA on this issue. What you’re doing is not courageous; it’s stupid, ineffectual and manipulative.

Our rights are not yours to maneuver for your political gain.

Our Constitution is not up for debate.

Our freedoms are not your bargaining chips, Mr. President.

Stand up, be a man and admit your support for this unconstitutional monster that aims to take firearms out of the hands of the law-abiding. Or if you don’t support this bill, have the courage to say so and face the mealy-mouthed, hand wringing wrath of Brady, Nosanchuk, Diaz and their socialist ilk.

You won’t get a pass on this, Mr. President. Your political games with our freedoms paint you as a coward, a manipulator and a traitor. It’s time for you to do the right thing. State your position, and face the consequences like a man.


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To: Eaker
Hello, where were you when Bush was campaigning and he said he would sign it?

Did you completely miss it?

I voted for Bush because I didn't want the alternative. That's the way politics work. I don't know if you're aware of it or not but the Republicans are planning on who will run in 2008. since Bush is a moderate, the next candidates that are being discussed are true conservatives.

Do you want to move backward or forward?
101 posted on 05/21/2003 7:19:19 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: Eaker
Why don't you two actually READ what is in the existing ban and then read what is being thrown into the new ban.

I'm not reading the ban cause I don't care, it's not a real ban on anything(that's a good thing) it is a sop to the gun ban nutz. Unless you tell me how you haven't been able to sleep since they banned those "tommy guns". As far as a new law, stay away from the proposals and you'll be much happier. It is difficult to pass these laws, I really don't think there's much chance of it this year. Neither does Tom Delay, my money is on him.

102 posted on 05/21/2003 7:19:32 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Mister Baredog
It appears the only difference between GWB and a Dum-a-crat (like Clintoon) is the spped at which each one sells us out. GWB just gets there a little bit slower.
103 posted on 05/21/2003 7:23:56 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
spped = speed
104 posted on 05/21/2003 7:26:49 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: coloradan
But your position on the AWB is that it is "phony" and not worth worrying about, even though you oppose it. Seems contradictory or even self-defeating to me.

I'm not trying to stir up a revolution. My point is that there are times when politics becomes a part of the equation. I am opposed to the AWB but I just don't think in reallity it has done anything, and certainly not made anyone safer. If some people want to think it has, then let them, that's all I'm saying. There are other issues more important and the REAL reason this is in the news now is because lame and desperate DEMONCRATS are tearing their hair out trying to find issues to confront BUSH on, I'm just not willing to have this fight right now to make them happy. I think the tide has turned on these GUN BAN NUTZ, they are less and less effective. Even many DEMS are backing off, of course I live in CA where they're trying to ban squirt guns(humor, not really, YET!)

105 posted on 05/21/2003 7:29:49 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Fred Mertz
How did I miss this one? Thanks for the ping.
106 posted on 05/21/2003 7:32:00 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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107 posted on 05/21/2003 7:34:30 AM PDT by deport
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To: taxed2death
each one sells us out. GWB just gets there a little bit slower.

Picky picky! BUSH must do everything you want or he's a sellout, give me a break. I see by your screen name that you do have other interests, is he selling you out on taxes too, do you really miss Clintoon, do you really see no difference?

108 posted on 05/21/2003 7:40:09 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Dane

Bush makes sure gun lobby gets what it wants
By TOM TEEPEN
Atlanta Journal-Constitution
5/20/2003

“Bush and the people around him are National Rifle Association finger puppets. The NRA twitches, they bow.”

When President Bush announced a couple of weeks ago that he wouldn't oppose renewal next year of the ban on semi-automatic assault weapons, you knew something fishy was up. And sure enough, here it is: Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas) says that not only will the House refuse to renew the legislation. The leadership won't even let the matter come up. End of issue.

Thus Bush escapes any blame for re-arming the nation's nut cases with weapons that can mow down school kids and postal employees wholesale -- hey, he said he'd back an extension, didn't he? -- but the gun lobby gets what it wants anyway.


109 posted on 05/21/2003 7:42:17 AM PDT by deport
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To: Eaker
well said! take that Dane!
110 posted on 05/21/2003 8:15:51 AM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: Mister Baredog
I am opposed to the AWB but I just don't think in reallity it has done anything, and certainly not made anyone safer.

Then I misunderstood you completely. I thought you were saying that the AWB wasn't a burden on gun owners and that you didn't think it worthwhile to fight it - in fact, that you thought it could or should be renewed.

111 posted on 05/21/2003 8:24:57 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: Mister Baredog
If you seriously think GWB's tax cut to corporations will help put Americans back to work, you need to pry the crack-pipe from your mouth long enough to breath fresh air.

Any tax breaks given to lighten the corporate load will effect more off-shore hiring and hiring of people on H1-B and L1 visas (more Bush sellouts). Open your damned eyes, look at hiring practices right now.

If GWB wanted to put Americans to work he would immediately stop the flood of illegal trespassers into our country. The illegals have completely blown small businesses out of the water here in my state. Every trade has beed decimated, Building, HVAC, Auto Body repair, Plumbing....my friend had the 4th largest landscaping business in the state. He's effectively "out of business" being undercut by scumbags who hire illegal trespassers. He can not compete with the cut rate prices of illegals who pay no taxes, workmans comp, or insurance. GWB is enabling this to happen by his complete lack of a cohesive border policy. The kids that graduate from the two dozen or so trade high schools in my state this June will go out to an empty job market....Why? Because everyone's hiring illegals. Why? Because the a$$hole in charge wants to suck up to hispanics for "the vote". If you want to put more Americans to work, how about a SERIOUS tax break for small businesses (businesses under 100 employees). How about imposing a $10,000 fine for each illegal "immigrant" that an employer hires. That will put Americans back to work. How about putting a stop to H1-B and L1 visas. Hire American Nurses that come out of School before going overseas to recruit. Same with IT workers. Pretty damned soon GWB will be held accountable for all this crap he's pulling against the American worker. People are beginning to smarten up real quick when it comes to these matters and Bush is coming dangeriously close to becoming a one termer, just like Daddy, because of his "screw Americans" policy.


"Bush must do EVERYTHING you want or he's a sellout"
No, he just has to put Americans first. He's not doing that.

As far as asking me if I really miss Clinton, no, I
don't.

As far as aking me if I really see no difference, at least GWB isn't chasing interns aroung the oval office. On all points conservative, he's basically not. Big(ger) gub-mint, more spending. Same as Clinton.
112 posted on 05/21/2003 8:31:18 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Fred Mertz
I think she (the author) gets it.

Nah. Best place to kill this turkey is in the House, where gerrymandering means most congressional pubbies are from safe districts. Senators answer to an entire stateand Bush answers to the entire nation - and there are enough dumb moderates and RINOs in the Northeast, voters Bush will need to win in those states in 2004, to put Bush in a position where it's best to let someone else do the hatchet work on this bill.

113 posted on 05/21/2003 8:34:53 AM PDT by dirtboy (someone kidnapped dirtboy and replaced him with an exact replica)
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To: taxed2death
Reducing all marginal rates to 35% for the top bracket will lower tax rates for ALL income tax payers, you obviously aren't paying attention, Having owned a "sub chapter S Corp" I know that 35% is less than the 39.6% rate that sucessful small business have been forced to pay. I suggest you give up the "KOOL-AID and keep you "tin-foil hat" handy, sounds like you'll be needing it!

If you seriously think GWB's tax cut to corporations will help put Americans back to work, you need to pry the crack-pipe from your mouth long enough to breath fresh air.

This is OVER the top. Obviously you are the type that wants to BLAME everything of the PRESIDENT. BUSH didn't start a new program to "import" illegals so they could take your job. Immigration is a hugh problem, tell me how ANY legislation now pending would "fix" this problem. In CA we VOTED to do something about the benefits problem with illegals "breaking the bank" in this state. Unelected judges threw it out. Chuckie Schumer type judges are ruining our country. If you want to blame it all on BUSH go ahead if it makes you feel better but PLEASE don't feel you need to insult those with whom you may disagree, this is a liberal tactic, I don't OWN a crack pipe, did you want to loan me yours?

114 posted on 05/21/2003 9:01:26 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Mister Baredog
it's not a real ban on anything(that's a good thing)

I'll mail you $3.00 and you go buy me two 30 round mags for my AR-15. This is how much they USED to cost before Clinton's ban.

Why do you speak so much on an issue that you do not understand or care about?


Eaker

115 posted on 05/21/2003 9:06:36 AM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Shooter 2.5
You miss my point. He is losing votes as MOST people don't read FR. They are not surrounded by Bushbots.

Gun-owners far and wide will not promote a second term for Bush. They won't try to convince their friends to vote for him or to vote at all for that matter.

I am not saying that I won't vote for him. I am saying that if he signs this bill he won't be re-elected.

Is he for us or against us? I don't have friends that I have to watch around my silverware. I would watch Bush around my silverware now.

Finally, yes I missed it during the election where he said he supported the ban. I would not have campaigned for him had I know this. Voted for him, yes. Campaigned, NO.

If he cannot trust me with a gun, why should I trust him to run my life?


Eaker

116 posted on 05/21/2003 9:16:31 AM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Eaker
If he cannot trust me with a gun, why should I trust him to run my life?

Did I miss where BUSH is trying to BAN guns? You question why I would comment on something I know so little about. I know this much, I sleep a lot better with BUSH in the White House than when Clintoon and his evil b*tch wife were in there planning their next crime. To you I guess there's no difference, that's too bad, actually it's sad.

I imagine you have plenty of clips for you weapons. Why aren't you trying to lift the ban on those neato "tommy guns" after they WERE BANNED in the 1930's. Ah, the good old days.

You remind me of Tim Robbins: "there's a cold chill across the land" what BS. GUNS are legal and they'll stay that way as long as we have a Constitution, and a few decent(maybe, maybe not) judges left to read the "bill of rights". IMHO the AWB was a phony feel good law to begin with, but as I said, it's just my opinion, If that's OK with you.

117 posted on 05/21/2003 9:42:13 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Mister Baredog
Just a few observations, then a few questions.

GB was elected President of the USA (I voted for him too.)

He has sworn an oath to defend the Constitution.

I will NOT accept your lamo excuse about liberal judges "throwing it out". PURE BS. El Presedente' Jorge could whip up a few "Executive orders" just as fast as Clintoon did. He choses not to. He choses to go against the majority of Americans WHO SUPPORT stopping the flow of illegals over our borders. To even argue the FACT that it could be done in 60 to 90 days is absurd, don't even go there. That's a WHOLE 'nother ball of wax. So it's obvious GWB doesn't care enough about his oath he took, the Constitution is his personal a$$wipe. I won't accept as a valid argument, the fact that he's only had 2 whole years to correct this problem.....or at least make an honest attempt to protect our borders. I'm sick of hearing people defend GWB's lack of activity on this issue with the silly retort of "Well, the problem was there BEFORE he got in office" , or " why didn't it bother you when Clinton was in office". That's not the point, Clinton was a liberal puke. GWB was suppoised to have been a conservative. I can bash GWB all I want to, this is a conservative website, not a Republican website, last time I checked. It (lack of border security) is an ongoing problem festering in the US and ignoring it WILL NOT make it go away.
All this "code yellow, code orange" crapola isn't worth the bandwidth it's taking up.

Just for the record, I've owned a Chapter S corp from 1985 to 1989 before I sold the business. BFD.


Is GWB doing anything in the way of stopping the flow of illegals over our borders? (no.) Other than taking BP agents AWAY from more remote areas and stationing them in legal border crossings, which allows more illegals to cross in more remote areas. Pretzel logic.

Is he even bringing the issue to the table to be discussed in an open forum? (no.)

Why has he gone along with H1-B visa program, and why has he signed L1 visa bill into law when tens of thousands of American IT workers are in need of jobs? Why hire a person from offshore when an American can do the job, and needs the job? Is this good for Americans?

GWB could stop all of this nonsense with the stroke of the pen. He has no political balls. He's more worried about re-election.
118 posted on 05/21/2003 10:43:21 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Mister Baredog
Did I miss where BUSH is trying to BAN guns?

READ THE BILL!!! It DOES ban certain guns!!!!

I imagine you have plenty of clips for you weapons.

My weapons use magazines. My daughter uses clips in her hair.

Why aren't you trying to lift the ban on those neato "tommy guns" after they WERE BANNED in the 1930's.

Tommy guns are taxed, not banned.

You remind me of Tim Robbins:

You don't know what you are talking about. How do you like the way THAT sounds?


Eaker

119 posted on 05/21/2003 11:04:28 AM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: taxed2death
GWB could stop all of this nonsense with the stroke of the pen.

He's the President not the King, I don't disagree with you about the border problems in this country, I just don't waist my day trying to find reasons to dislike the Prez, I am grateful for his being there on 9/11, it easily could have been Al Gore. I see conservatives gaining ground as the liberal media juggernaut is falling apart. 10 years ago compared to today is amazing. As this growing (see 2002 election results) trend continues I have some hope that over time these important issues will be addressed. As Rush likes to say, first we must "educate" before we can get people to agree with us.

I still remember how excited I was in 1994 after the REPS won Congress for the first time in 40 some years. The enemies weren't yet defeated, and they haven't given up but the lesson to me of the NEWT period is that some things just have to evolve to get consensus. IMHO conservatives are winning the arguments, little by little.

120 posted on 05/21/2003 11:17:17 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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