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Party primary challenge tests Democrats' strength (Hollings Hints Won't Seek Re-Election!!!)
Charleston Post and Courier ^ | 05/20/03 | SCHUYLER KROPF

Posted on 05/20/2003 8:59:44 AM PDT by Pubbie

Party primary challenge tests Democrats' strength BY SCHUYLER KROPF Of The Post and Courier Staff Two weeks into his new job, S.C. Democratic Party Chairman Joe Erwin sees a mix of dark clouds and silver linings.

The clouds include the anticipated cost of more than $2 million to conduct a February presidential primary, and the strong possibility that incumbent U.S. Sen. Fritz Hollings may not run again.

The silver lining is that Democrats can save money by using paper ballots in the party primary and then draft 4,000 unpaid volunteers to run it. In that case, the cost might drop significantly, possibly to $350,000 or less.

Also, Hollings has given Erwin clearance to explore recruiting someone else to run for the Senate seat. "I have some names in my head, but nothing committed to paper," Erwin said last week, adding, "We can call them when we get some commitment from the senator, either way."

Coming off the high from the party's presidential debate that drew all nine candidates to the state, Erwin inherits a state headquarters operation under less than ideal conditions. The party raised more than $300,000 during its May 3 debate weekend and the festivities surrounding it. After paying off just a few of its debts, including $20,000 to rent and put together the debate stage for ABC News at the University of South Carolina, it is left with about $225,000 in the bank.

That comes as the party headquarters also needs to be re-staffed after two of four key officers, political director Will Drake and finance director Ashlie Bagwell -- recently left to take jobs in other states.

The state party last year scored a publicity coup when the Democratic National Committee eased its calendar rules and allowed South Carolina to hold a first-in-the-South primary that would be the third big vote in the nation, behind Iowa and New Hampshire. The change was made when Democrat Jim Hodges still held the governor's seat and before there was a financial plan to pay for a party primary. Now the realities of responsibility are starting to surface.

Lacking a major influx of cash, Erwin's plan is still to run a 7 a.m.-7 p.m. primary election in all 2,005 precincts statewide, but he hopes that 4,000 Democratic faithful will be interested enough to work the polls on a Tuesday.

"Frankly, it would be easier if we were flush with cash to write the check" and have outside accountability, he said. But he added there "just may be better things to do with the money." Not having to pay trained election staff will save the most cash, he said, but it also could be difficult to organize a primary in counties with low resources and poor party organization.

It wouldn't be the first time that volunteer election workers have been used for a presidential preference primary; the Republicans did it in 2000.

Erwin doesn't think using paper ballots will create any large-scale credibility problems since there is only one issue to be decided, the winner of the primary.

One idea that has surfaced is to get the candidates to pay more of the cost of conducting the primary, but Erwin doesn't plan to ask them since they already have been asked to pony up what could amount to a $4,000 filing fee to get on the ballot. Charging any additional fee, he said, would be electoral extortion. "I think that would violate the spirit of the primary," he said.

Jay Reiff, former campaign manager for Hodges, said the party needs to do more than hope it can put a primary together. Everyone who has a stake in bringing the Democratic Party back to power has to act, he said.

"To be successful, they will need to reach out and work to recruit new volunteers," said Reiff, now an advisor to Gov. Mike Easley of North Carolina.

"But they'll have a great product to sell," he added. "The presidential primary will generate excitement. They need to tap that excitement. The presidential primary could be a real godsend for the South Carolina Democratic Party."

As far as where to go from here, Kevin Geddings, a former consultant to Hodges, said the party may want to consider a 10-year rebuilding plan because it may take at least that long to become competitive in the state again.

Geographically, the only region of South Carolina where Democrats appear to have a chance to cut into Republican leads is on the coast, he said, pointing specifically to Charleston County.

"Clearly we cannot win statewide and continue to be crushed along the coast," Geddings said. "The coast is where voters at least will consider a Democratic candidate. That's not an option in the western part of the state," around Greenville and Spartanburg, he added. "Those voters are lock-stock Republicans for at least another generation."

Geddings suggested building up the Democratic base steadily, by winning county races here and there. He pointed to moderate areas around Charleston and Myrtle Beach as fertile ground.

Another chance for Democratic gains, Geddings said, is making appeals after budget cuts in state government become a reality in more well-to-do neighborhoods, such as in Mount Pleasant.

"Once these budget cuts are actually implemented, then families in suburbia ... who drop off their kids in grade schools where there's one teacher and 35 kids, that will be our opportunity," he said.

Reiff said Democrats should bide their time and not expect miracles overnight, or even by 2004.

"The last Democratic presidential nominee to win South Carolina was Jimmy Carter in 1976," Reiff said. "Joe Erwin is very talented, but it would be unfair to expect him to turn this trend around in one year.

"The immediate problem is all the wrong lessons are being learned from last year's election," he added. "The Democratic Party's problem is not with black voters. The problem is with white voters. The best way to build a strong party is to recruit strong candidates at the local level."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 2004; electionsenate; fritzhollings; hollings; jimdemint; southcarolina
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If Hollings doesn't run, this seat will be almost certain to go to Jim DeMint.

Here is the quote that is most interesting regarding Hollings:

"Also, Hollings has given Erwin clearance to explore recruiting someone else to run for the Senate seat. "I have some names in my head, but nothing committed to paper," Erwin said last week, adding, "We can call them when we get some commitment from the senator, either way."

1 posted on 05/20/2003 8:59:44 AM PDT by Pubbie
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To: Pubbie
We need to scare Hollings out of running again. Easy pick-up.
2 posted on 05/20/2003 9:01:13 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Pubbie
I think general practice is to use the original title . . . that way double posts are avoided, people can find the article when they search, et cetera . . .
3 posted on 05/20/2003 9:01:59 AM PDT by JohnnyZ (That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! At least for the present . . .)
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To: JohnnyZ
Sorry, I'll include the title next time I post.
4 posted on 05/20/2003 9:03:26 AM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Pubbie
HURRAH!

Now, how 'bout the same announcements from Boxhead, Dash-Hole, Dorgan and Breaux!!!
5 posted on 05/20/2003 9:07:20 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (I'm SO glad to no longer be associated with the Party of Dependence on Government.)
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To: Pubbie
I think we can get a pretty good preview about Pub chances to increase in the senate by how many Crat incumbents choose not to run again.
6 posted on 05/20/2003 9:20:35 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: Pubbie
More and more, Democrats are motivated by sheer love of power. That's why being in the minority is so devastating to them. Even if Hollings could get himself reelected, all he would buy would be a seat on the minority side of the aisle, with no power but the power to obstruct and to fight toward yet another election. That dismal prospect must be part of his calculations.
7 posted on 05/20/2003 9:28:38 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: mwl1
Email Rush, or better yet call. He hasn't picked up on this yet, maybe he's avoiding FR.

He starts "hitting on this girl" and she'll fold like a cheap house of cards. And I know he's really just an old coot.
8 posted on 05/20/2003 9:51:16 AM PDT by Eagles2003
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To: Pubbie
I haven't noticed anything from Hollings in quite a while aside from the re-election talk. He used to go on tv a lot more. I suspect that also is a clue about his plans. The Democrat pressure on him to run again must be intense. His not running no doubt would deeply, deeply sadden Daschle.
9 posted on 05/20/2003 9:55:43 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: Pubbie
This is great, I say, this is great news!

-PJ

10 posted on 05/20/2003 9:57:44 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Pubbie
After the death of his daughter, I knew he was done.

Graham will be done, as well.
11 posted on 05/20/2003 10:08:22 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Pubbie
This is how Hillary got her seat.

Take an old and beloved Senator, have them publicly annoint you as the successor, then sit back and watch everyone abandon their own campaigns.

She got a free ride because of Moynihan.

She won't have it so easy next time.

Metzenbaum tried like hell to get his son-in-law his seat - he ran constant commercials for years on the Hyatt Legal Services so people would recognize his face and his name.

He got whipped so bad, John Glenn cut a commercial for him calling the competitor "disgusting". Tee hee - I love it that Metzenbaum and Glenn are alive to see the imploding of their party, and the Republicans warming their old seats.
12 posted on 05/20/2003 10:11:06 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: All; biblewonk

Day's too much CONZOOMIN goin on out dayah!


13 posted on 05/20/2003 10:11:38 AM PDT by newgeezer (Gun-control advocates are the NRA's best recruiters.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat
We can get Edwards' seat.
14 posted on 05/20/2003 10:11:41 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Cicero
My bet? Lautenberg will quit after the '04 election.
15 posted on 05/20/2003 10:12:31 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: newgeezer
Dueling Bozos.
16 posted on 05/20/2003 10:12:39 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: mwl1
If Hollings runs, it'd be a close race....could go either way. However, what's important is that by declining to run, Hollings is pretty much admitting that the Dems haven't a prayer of retaking the Senate in the next 6 years..they'll probably lose seats..and he doesn't want to be in the minority..it ain't no fun. If he thought thee was even the slightest chance that he could regain his committee chair, he'd run again...
17 posted on 05/20/2003 10:16:36 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: mabelkitty
Who are the likely GOP candidates fro the Senate seat?
18 posted on 05/20/2003 10:17:41 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: ken5050
Agreed.

Watch the arc of Senate seats right down the eastern seaboard next year -- North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida.

Three of the four - SC, GA, and FL, may have open RAT seats, ripe for GOP pickups through swelling Bush majorities in each of the states. It could be very sweet.
19 posted on 05/20/2003 10:19:49 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: Pubbie
He'll probably be resting fat & happy on all the secret funds
he got from Hollywood for pushing the DMCA.
20 posted on 05/20/2003 10:20:01 AM PDT by absinthe
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