What Santorum Really Said

Insight ^ | May 19, 2003 | Paul Gottfried

[pupdog]

He did NOT use the word, but taken in context the reporters' use of brackets to insert "homosexual" was appropriate.

Well I think that's where I'm concerned: I'm not so sure I agree. I do understand the use of brackets in this manner. I do also think there is a good case for the use of that word changing radically what he said, though your argument is reasonable as well.

But I don't want to get too far off topic, so let me just keep this to the factual information I'm interested in. Do you know for certain that he did not use that word? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just want to be absolutely sure of exactly what he said before it made it's way to paper. Don't mean to be a stickler, but as Rush says, words mean things. Thanks for your help.

[ffusco]

Libertarians may be liberal or they may not. They simply want the sovreignty of their own bodies. This expalins why they are usually pro-chioce on guns, drugs, abortions and laissez fare on capitalism.

Re "Laws that protect society" Explain how sodomy laws protect society.

[ffusco]

The only reason I can think of for keeping Sodomy Laws is that it would make it impossible to consumate a gay marriage. It seems to make a distinction between sex acts and coitus.

[ffusco]

Big city police departments in Texas DO NOT enforce sodomy laws in homes.

Not since the new sheriff got here, Colonel Ingus.

[griffin]

I've always wondered.....what exactly is wrong with being a bull in a china shop?

Especially if it is bad china?

[griffin]

...."fully sanctioned in the Old Testament"...

Gotta call you on that one. God always intended marriage between a man and woman to be singular. The OT does not 'sanction' polygamy. Some did it, but a price was always extolled.

[ffusco]

I just cited from the article.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Libertarians may be liberal or they may not.

Social liberalism is not a conservative virtue.

They simply want the sovreignty of their own bodies.

Except when it comes to consensual incest, bestiality, pedophilia and necrophilia or other “sexual orientations” they are hypocrites.

This expalins why they are usually pro-chioce on guns, drugs, abortions and laissez fare on capitalism.

Drugs and abortions ruin societies…The Boxer revolution anyone?

Re "Laws that protect society" Explain how sodomy laws protect society.

You did a fine job yourself. “The only reason I can think of for keeping Sodomy Laws is that it would make it impossible to consumate a gay marriage. It seems to make a distinction between sex acts and coitus.” But, recognizing homosexual relationships demeans the value of the family unit making into longer necessary or worthy of protection by the government and therefor breaking the universal morality of survival of the species.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Big city police departments in Texas DO NOT enforce sodomy laws in homes.

BS!

[Tailgunner Joe]

A true libertarian would never endorse pedophilia or bestiality for that reason.

They would endorse incest though. If you can have consensual sodomy, why not consensual incest?

[ffusco]

Endorse it? I don't think that is accurate.

A lack of repudiation is not an endorsement.

[Tailgunner Joe]

What is not restricted, is allowed.

[Clint N. Suhks]

What is not restricted, is allowed.

Yep…that’s one of those unenumerated rights you hear tell about in the 9th Amendment.

[P.O.E.]

I had sent the Senator a letter of support at the time.

Thanks for posting the link to that petition - I just signed it.

[Choose Ye This Day]

"God always intended marriage between a man and woman to be singular. The OT does not 'sanction' polygamy. Some did it, but a price was always extolled."


We also have to allow for the cultural differences of the Middle East, where polygamy is still practiced among Arabs, and most likely predated Judaism as well. Many OT passages are clear that polygamy is wrong, many neutral, many are unclear.

One example where a price wasn't extolled is the brief mention of Abijah in 2 Chronicles 14. He married 14 wives and "waxed mighty." Does that mean the Lord sanctioned it? No. But the Lord didn't immediately punish him either.

[Salvation]

Bumping!