Anyone Just Hear a TERRIBLE Presentation by Homeland Defense's Hutchinson IGNORING Illegal Aliens?

www.cspan.org ^ | 19 May 2003 | AmericanInTokyo

[AmericanInTokyo]

Anyone else just hear a replay of a talk earlier today (19 May) by former Congressman Asa Hutchison, Homeland Defense Undersecretary for Border Control, going into detail about their new USA Visa program and how it will secure our borders at US points of entry?

[This aired on CSPAN Radio.]

I couldn't believe that talk. IS THIS REALLY BUSH ADMINISTRATION POLICY?!?!

Barf.

No wonder we are being invaded on the installment plan and the many law abiding guests and immigrants are being slapped in the face and insulted. It guess, listening to that talk, it will continue to happen regardless if the GOP or the Dems control the agencies.

[AmericanInTokyo]

I think he meant, "spouting revolutionary rhetoric", and in all lower case fonts at that. My guess.

[666beast]

i will soon enough. too busy reading and posting at the moment.

believe me, my profile would not impress any american in tokyo.

[666beast]

no revolutionary rhetoric other than pointing out that we need one.

or do you think "the man" cares about cyberspace toughguys questioning their administrations policies? ? ?

they're going to do whatever they wish because they know that the online freepers just post after a beer and have no sand in their pockets.

they probably laugh at Americans who don't want to lose their country as they flood it with illegals.

reminds me of the front page of USA today the other day, giggling about what waves of immigration have made Brooklyns senior photos of the graduating class look like.

I could see the implied hatred and racism against American citizens.

this all makes me so sick that i don't even care anymore about what you "veteran" posters and freepers think.

[AmericanInTokyo]

You post odd things, but nevertheless, I like you. Please continue to post. Enjoy reading your stuff. Thanks.

[666beast]

sure!

Never wanted to be weird and quirky, but sometime's it's hard to find that chemistry and middle ground.

[Mears]

Just read your post and I agree with you.

I just don't get it. The word "illegal" seems to have lost all meaning. They come in and wait for an amnesty and then when that is over the next crowd comes in and waits for their amnesty.

If I went out and threw a rock through someone's window I would be arrested for committing an illegal act,but people from other countries can commit an illegal act and be forgiven.

Madness!

[wharfrat]

Mexico has always considered America a Borderless country on the southern border. The enforcement tactics are so political in nature that it goes beyond calling it a joke. The attractivness of our southern regions make for a continuim of political mayhem and madness and an unwillingness to once and for all stop all this cross border traffic making it appear to not even exist. It is our legitimate international border and should be respected as such!

It is time to quit fooling around and seal the borders north and south because both of the countries have exhibited their true feelings towards us thoroughly and in finally. The free ride we offer them particularly in the south always stops short of the Caniadian Border on their march North. If we did the same to them as they do to us our point would be more clearly received. This would put teeth into our demands to keep the RifRaff! out and control the passage and put and end to the Freeloading taking place. Its time to put out the "NOT WELCOME"sign and Mean to Enforce it!

[AmericanInTokyo]

I agree with you, but it will fall upon deaf ears with Underscretary Hutchinson, for according to him (despite our current quagmire of being overrun by waves of lawbreakers and drug smugglers, as so many of us here have pointed out) this is STILL the "United States of Emma Lazarus". He would hug and adhere to that outmoded, trite American Myth until our National Death, it seems.

[AmericanInTokyo]

In the event you were to commit such a crime, well, you could always claim your were 'rockless' i.e. the rock you had in your hand is no longer in your posession (it would be on the other side of the broken window), and you would be 'rockless'. Your status could be put in neutral, politically correct terms, so as to dismiss any culpability or responsibility for your actions.

Same goes for "undocumented."

"He just happened to be without his documents. Gee, must surely be somebody else's fault." /sarc

[AmericanInTokyo]

Shifting the responsibility of an act of crime (crossing over a national border in violation of US Federal statute sans legal authorization) is achieved by cleverly putting it into 'PC' terminology so as to wipe away any 'criminal' aspect, as if the "state of the person" (undocumented) is simply an inherent characteristic. Quite accidental. "UNDOCUMENTED". "He has no documents? No tiene papeles? Sorry, OK, never mind, case closed."

I think people stopped and found to be driving without their licenses should force the courts with the same thing to prove the point. "Gee, I was only "undocumented" at the time the officer stopped us. What's the big problem?!"

Easy to use passive verbs to separate the action (and thus the responsibility) from the person.

They are NOT "Undocumented". They are Illegal Lawbreakers. The fact that they are "undocumented" is merely a by-product of the crime they have committed which has rendered them in the state they are.

Shouldn't we admit people into LA Dodger games at the stadium gates, even though they don't have their tickets? After all, THEY TOO are simply "Undocumented!". Ridiculous.

[He Rides A White Horse]

or do you think "the man" cares about cyberspace toughguys questioning their administrations policies? ? ?

..........You question depends on who you think "the man' is.................

[He Rides A White Horse]

.............."The Man" is various things to different people............to Stalin, it's the capitalists.............to Hitler, it's the Jewish bankers (sic)..............to American leftists, it's the 'military-industrial' complex..............see?

[He Rides A White Horse]

.......for the benefit of the doubt...........have you been to Alexa's website lately?..........if you are not familiar with them, they take traffic rankings on the internet; people can rate them, give reviews..........that sort of thing.

[rustbucket]

When I see/hear/read the local news here in Phoenix, it appears that most of the crimes are committed by people who cannot speak English.

I'm planning a trip to the Arizona-Mexico border country, e.g., Douglas, Bisbee, the Chiricahua Mountains. I've read about packs of illegals coming through the countryside. How safe is that area for visitors?

[He Rides A White Horse]

oh, i definitely won't.

you probably won't be around anyway.

Please don't worry about that............I'll be around.

I promise. From the heart.

[a merkin]

Hey Beast:

You da man!

[rustbucket]

Nevermind my earlier question about how safe it was in the Arizona border region. I just found an article about 600 illegals who crossed the border at Douglas en masse. See Like a Marathon.

I like to hike in the back country, but I don't want to have to pack a side arm in order to do it safely. Nor do I want to leave my new vehicle parked at some remote trailhead (or even parked on a Douglas street for that matter).

[hsmomx3]

Oh gosh, do not bring your new vehicle to AZ!! We have some of the highest auto theft rates in the country. Me neighbor had his car stolen and the insurance company did not settle for three weeks because they were waiting to see if it would be recovered. Never was. Probably a chop shop sent it to Mexico.

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