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1 posted on 05/16/2003 3:37:58 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Paul Atreides
billy will Ross Perot the next election
Da Beast doesnt stand a chance this next time around...
she is waiting for next time...she can wait 5 years
Imagine what she will look like in 9 yrs
3 posted on 05/16/2003 3:40:17 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Paul Atreides
We've got it here too.

THAT is why articles should be posted in full text whenever possible.
4 posted on 05/16/2003 3:41:11 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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I just posted it:

The Clintons are back (The Susan Estrich column spiked by EVERY MAINSTREAM NEWSPAPER IN THE US


7 posted on 05/16/2003 3:45:42 PM PDT by Timesink
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This shows you the power the Clintons have in the mainstream press. The Dems complain about the GOP and this Bush administration conrolling things. You will never ever convince me the the media ia not to a great extent controlled by the Dems.
9 posted on 05/16/2003 3:46:11 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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13 posted on 05/16/2003 3:47:42 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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No wonder Estrogen's column got spiked - it's Democratic dipsoid, but definitely anti-Clintoid.

click

" The Clintons are back.

Sidney Blumenthal -- much-hated former Clinton aide, ethically challenged former journalist -- $850,000 advance in hand, has a new book out on May 20, attacking everyone who ever attacked him or the Clintons, rehearsing once again the old right-wing conspiracy, every attack on them, answered. The right wing conspiracy revived, answered, again.

Hillary's book is next.

Could someone please tell these people to shut up?

The Democrats might have a chance of electing a new president if they could get the last one, and his defenders, to clear the stage. It doesn't matter if they're right or wrong. They should be history.

The Clintons suck up every bit of the available air. Nothing is left for anyone else. They are big, too big. That's the problem.

The 2004 candidates need a chance to get some attention, to rise to Clinton's level, which they'll never do so long as the likes of Sidney Blumenthal are playing into the hands of conservatives in insisting on debating the scandals of the 1990s.

Don't get me wrong. No one spent more time defending Bill Clinton than I did. Too much, according to most of my friends. But in a constitutional crisis, there was no choice. Enough is enough.

There's no excuse for a grown man to have an affair with an intern, whether his name is Bill Clinton or Jack Kennedy. What the former president did was wrong.

It's bad enough that Fox has given Monica Lewinsky a talk show. Of all the hundreds of women who could help find Mr. Personality, the last one on earth who's earned the right to do it is the Queen of Blow Jobs of the 1990s.

The Republicans shouldn't have impeached him for it, but he shouldn't have given them the ammunition. And we shouldn't still be discussing it.

Why are we? Or, to put it more accurately, why are they?

Not because it serves the interests of Democrats of the future.

It doesn't help Howard Dean, or John Kerry, or Dick Gephardt.

It makes George W. Bush look good.

It gets Sidney on TV shows. If the issue is ethics, no one has less than Sidney Blumenthal. He used to call me, during the Dukakis campaign, which I was running and he was supposed to be covering, to offer covert advice, which if accepted might result in better coverage. Much later, when I criticized him, he tried to get me in trouble with my editors. All the while, I was defending his boss. That's Sidney. He's Hillary's best friend. No wonder Republicans are delighted to see his return to the spotlight.

It raises money for their causes.

The Bill and Bob (Dole) show on CBS has proven to be a colossal bore. The ratings have fallen. Is anyone getting the message? I fear not.

Let's not mince words.

Hillary Clinton is never going to be president of the United States. There is no more divisive figure in the Democratic Party, much less the country, than the former first lady. And I like her. But many women don't. Even Democratic women. Even working women. Not to mention non-working, independent, non-political women. She can be a great senator. She's smart, hard working and effective. She is much respected among her peers.

But the more people talk about her as a future president, the more money Republicans raise. The more people talk about her as a future president, the less attention the current candidates, who might win, receive.

Revisiting the scandals of the past does no service to the Democrats of the future.

Bill Clinton is a brilliant man. But the more attention he gets, the more the Democrats of the future suffer. He would be the first to say this, if it weren't about him.

Enough with the Clintons. Please. Not for the sake of the Republicans. But for the Democrats ..."

16 posted on 05/16/2003 3:50:26 PM PDT by xJones
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Can someone remind me, are we at war with Eastasia or Oceana?

-PJ

18 posted on 05/16/2003 3:51:04 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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I wonder just how many newspapers carried it in the first place? Not many, I'll bet.
21 posted on 05/16/2003 3:52:57 PM PDT by jackbill
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Susan's lucky that only the column had a spike stuck in it.
24 posted on 05/16/2003 3:57:31 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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Separated at birth:


27 posted on 05/16/2003 4:03:07 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again.")
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Who ever knew Susan Estrogen wrote a column? I thought she was just hired as a shrieking head to give "balance" to sit opposite anybody with a brain that Liberals in management thought needed to be talked over.

"What have I got to do? I write a column, I send it out and on this one column, everybody that runs it spikes it."

Poor Susan! She's just had a glimpse of what is was like trying to say anything against the clintons back in the 90s. In fact, she may seriously consider not visiting any dark alleys at night.

The next time she wants to see one of her witless columns published, she needs to say something fawning about the clintons. Then she'll get printed all over the country!

In fact, she better do it quick, while she still has unbroken fingers capable of typing!

33 posted on 05/16/2003 4:28:02 PM PDT by Gritty
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She talked about it on Hannity and Colmes last night.
41 posted on 05/16/2003 5:00:54 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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I expect Susan Estrich will soon suffer a mysterious death. That would be typical of the Clinton pattern.
42 posted on 05/16/2003 5:01:26 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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How do they accomplish the spike? Do they send e-mails/faxes to the editors? Wouldn't it be great to get the text of one?
43 posted on 05/16/2003 5:02:29 PM PDT by aristeides
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My oh my. The column was excellent, blunt, and really ripped Bill, Hill, and Sid apart.
47 posted on 05/16/2003 5:15:43 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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Something I found interesting is that a RAT that posted about this at "that other place" wonders what accounts for "such rank insubordination". Kinda frightening that they view it in terms of "subordination".
49 posted on 05/16/2003 5:23:25 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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Say what you will about the democrats, the Democratic National Committee has absolute control over the media. It is jaw-dropping amazing.
51 posted on 05/16/2003 5:25:01 PM PDT by friendly
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The news just switched to the missing article. Too funny...
54 posted on 05/16/2003 5:32:31 PM PDT by Libloather (And it STILL isn’t safe enough to vote DemocRAT or Liberteen…)
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No RICO here, just coincidence. Move on folks. </sarcasm off>
59 posted on 05/16/2003 5:50:41 PM PDT by zip (I love being right)
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We need a list of the papers in which Estrich's column normally appears.

Then we need to write to each individual newspaper -- politely -- asking why her column did not appear in their paper.

Anyone have such a list?
68 posted on 05/16/2003 6:07:26 PM PDT by paulklenk
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