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Ideological foes agree: Privacy rights in danger
Atlanta Journal/Constitution ^ | 5-16-03 | Bob Barr and Laura W. Murphy

Posted on 05/16/2003 9:30:36 AM PDT by Dick Bachert

When you live in a country founded on fundamental principles of freedom, individuality and privacy, and those rights begin disappearing, unusual things begin to happen. Perhaps none so unusual as a forum in Washington last month, where the left and right wings came together to discuss prominent legislation in the nation's war on terrorism.

The topic: government responses to Sept. 11 that go beyond fighting terrorism and infringe on the privacy rights of ordinary Americans. Rarely, if ever, do groups as far apart on the ideological spectrum as the American Civil Liberties Union and Eagle Forum come down on the same side of an issue. But apparently, when it comes to preserving those core American ideals, there is rare common ground to be found.

The overwhelming consensus of the group was that in 1890, when a young lawyer named Louis Brandeis and his law partner, Samuel Warren, first laid out the case for a constitutional right to privacy, they just might have stumbled onto something.

For once, the right and left wings agreed: What Brandeis and Warren termed the "right to be left alone," the "most comprehensive of rights and the right most valued by all civilized men," apparently remains indispensable --- especially in the post-Sept. 11 world --- and recent government surveillance and law enforcement measures that run counter to it require quick reform and teamwork.

Panelists singled out the Pentagon's Total Information Awareness program and the proposed draft legislation, commonly known as Patriot II, as especially troubling.

Total Information Awareness approaches counterterrorism efforts from a flawed direction. It would, by its developers' own admission, collect and analyze vast amounts of detailed personal information about everyday Americans in the elusive hope of discerning undefined terrorist threat patterns.

Simply put, TIA would look at every Americans' past addresses, personal medical records, bank dealings, travel itineraries, mental health histories, credit card purchases and other so-called "transactional" data, in the untested expectation that, by spying without limit on the good guys, they'll spot the bad guys. Even though some optimists on the Hill think TIA is dead, trust us, it's not.

Now we have Patriot II (aka "Son of Patriot") proposed by the Bush administration, a proposal that is a quantum leap beyond its forebear. Patriot II approaches law enforcement and intelligence-gathering in much the same way --- going light years beyond what is reasonably necessary in the fight against terrorism.

Provisions in the draft bill would allow secret arrests, warrantless searches, broad asset forfeiture with limited judicial oversight and the stripping of citizenship from Americans who provide support to groups designated as terrorist organizations, even if they are unaware of the group's activities.

Meanwhile, laws are already on the books --- as part of the first Patriot Act --- that allow the government to visit our local libraries and bookstores to examine our reading habits.

As law enforcement or intelligence-gathering techniques go, these would be like trying to catch shrimp with a tuna net. Can't be done --- the holes are too big.

Terrorists will always be able to fool tools based on broad spy-on-everyone approaches rather than solid threat intelligence, making such tools fundamentally ineffectual and, worse, potential catalysts for a dangerously false sense of security.

The practical and constitutional problems with Total Information Awareness and Patriot II underscore the importance of protecting the right to privacy in America.

By weeding out those anti-terrorism measures that unduly intrude on Americans' privacy rights, we would actually be fortifying our counterterrorism strategy by re-emphasizing the importance of better foreign intelligence-gathering and analytical capabilities relative to increased surveillance powers, which are already extremely broad.

Our Constitution and Bill of Rights provide all the guidance required to keep America a land of unparalleled domestic security and individual liberty. It just might be worth rereading them to remind us of that, except for fear the government might find out we're reading up on just what our "unalienable rights" are.

Bob Barr represented the 7th District of Georgia in the U. S. House of Representatives from 1995 to 2003.

Laura W. Murphy is director of the American Civil Liberties Union's Washington legislative office.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: billofrights; bobbarr; constitution; privacy; privacylist; rights; waronterror
"...the idea of liberty must grow weak in the hearts of men before it can be killed at the hands of tyrants." T.Jefferson
1 posted on 05/16/2003 9:30:36 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: Dick Bachert
Our Constitution and Bill of Rights provide all the guidance required to keep America a land of unparalleled domestic security and individual liberty. It just might be worth rereading them to remind us of that, except for fear the government might find out we're reading up on just what our "unalienable rights" are.

I wish Bob Barr would defend the 9th and 10th as well as he does the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th!

2 posted on 05/16/2003 9:43:10 AM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: Dick Bachert
“The Right to Privacy” - Warren and Brandeis

The problem is defining "privacy". Since the word does not present itself in the Constitution, Amendments or Bill of Rights.

Barr and Murphy write: "Meanwhile, laws are already on the books --- as part of the first Patriot Act --- that allow the government to visit our local libraries and bookstores to examine our reading habits.

Brandies would likely have agreed that the library information, like all public record would not be an invasion of privacy. It's possible he would not have thought the bookstore information would be an invasion either if the bookstore owner agreed to the review of the information. The information is the bookstore's property.

"Our Constitution and Bill of Rights provide all the guidance required to keep America a land of unparalleled domestic security and individual liberty. It just might be worth rereading them to remind us of that, except for fear the government might find out we're reading up on just what our "unalienable rights" are."

Again, the word "privacy" is not specifically there. If we add it then I suppose these documents are "a living document" and can be changed? As the left says so often?

Interesting......

3 posted on 05/16/2003 9:57:57 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (All tags for sale. 0% interest.)
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4 posted on 05/16/2003 10:06:49 AM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Ideas have consequences)
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To: Dick Bachert
I'll believe the ACLU's cries of their love and defense of privacy when they fight some of the already existing government invasions of privacy...like the rules requiring any transaction at or above $10,000 be reported to the Infernal Revenue Service...or the gun registration database that will be built from the instant background check system durring the next Democrat administration...like the laws requiring businesses to send a list of ALL their new-hires to the government so those lists can be matched up with child support orders (even the ones who don't have any kids) so that money can be garnished from paychecks, even if there has never been a problem with that person paying on time and in full. If it feeds the liberal, Marxist machinery that the left cherishes, then they don't really have a problem with that kind of invasion of privacy.
5 posted on 05/16/2003 10:07:02 AM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Lysander
I wish Bob Barr would defend the 9th and 10th as well as he does the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th!

IMO, one of the reasons Barr lost in last year's primary was the fact that he considered the 4th Amendment just so much toilet paper when it got in the way of the Holy War on Drugs. The LP ad accusing him of depriving a dying woman of her medicine (medical marijuana) for ideological reasons no doubt had a major impact.

And yes, you're right about Barr's ignorance of Amendments 9 and 10: he sponsored a bill that forbade Washington, DC voters from even putting the medical MJ issue on the ballot. A flaming hypocrite if there ever was one.

6 posted on 05/16/2003 11:55:37 AM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take back the word "liberal" from the commies!!)
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