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Record Books 'Reloaded' [Matrix triples 1st Night BO record]
Variety ^
| May 16, 2003
| Carl DiOrio
Posted on 05/16/2003 5:16:07 AM PDT by ewing
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Saw it on Wed. and liked it..ive heard the total for Wednesday was somewhere around the high 9 million mark
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:16:08 AM PDT
by
ewing
To: ewing
I heard there was a Bush-Hitler comparison in the movie. Any truth?
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:19:15 AM PDT
by
smith288
(Why do liberals believe every ammendment is personal but the 2nd?)
To: smith288
Apparently there is a scene where Morpheus gives a speech while there are walls of TV monitors flashing images. The monitors show Mussolini, then Hitler, and then Bush.
There is also a cameo by Cornell West.
Sadly, it does not appear that my one man boycott of the sequel will be effective.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:20:46 AM PDT
by
William McKinley
(Our differences are politics. Our agreements are principles.)
To: smith288
I didn't see it, I think there is also a lot of material alluding to the Bible and Christianity..and issues dealing with faith as well
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:21:16 AM PDT
by
ewing
To: William McKinley
Yep Cornell West is in the movie, thankfully not for long..
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:22:17 AM PDT
by
ewing
To: William McKinley
Sadly, it does not appear that my one man boycott of the sequel will be effective. Perhaps not but your conviction still holds firm.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:25:28 AM PDT
by
smith288
(Why do liberals believe every ammendment is personal but the 2nd?)
To: smith288
I was looking forward to seeing the movie too; the first is a favorite of mine. But no way will I pay to see a movie that has West in it.
And the Bush thing is just plain stupid.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:27:16 AM PDT
by
William McKinley
(Our differences are politics. Our agreements are principles.)
To: ewing
mancow sez there's a dance number haffway through the movie... izit true?
To: William McKinley
Sadly, it does not appear that my one man boycott of the sequel will be effective
Look at it this way, if it is just one frame out of the whole movie then it is was probably some whack-job FX guy in Hollywood that did this and not the W. brothers fault. If it was the W. brothers fault, they would have done it more openingly.
And I can forgive that one scene for an otherwise great movie.
Also from what I hear, the W. brothers are NOT part of the mainstream Hollywood leftest nut jobs. I am sure if 10,000 freepers asked NICELY and brought this to the attention of the W. brothers, they might change the scene from Bush to Clinton for the DVD release. ;)
To: smith288
The architect of the Matrix is talking about the perfections and "grotesqueries" that appear within the Matrix. When he speaks of the perfections a room full of tv screens show puppies and flowers etc. When he speaks of the grotesque you see scenes of war and brutality and Bush.
It happens in a split second but I didn't see an image of Hitler.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:32:28 AM PDT
by
CaptainK
To: William McKinley
There were no TV monitors when Morpheus was speaking - just a massive crowd with torches and the urge to dance. Almost like a Hitler rally. However, when Neo met the architect the room was surrounded with TV monitors which flashed Neo's life. Could have been some flashes of dictators in those scenes.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:33:32 AM PDT
by
chouli
To: InvisibleChurch
No, it's not true at all. It's a lie!!! The dance scene is about a THIRD of the way through the movie. Mancow is a liar! hehe
To: CaptainK
I thought I saw an image of Hitler, but I didn't see any image of Bush.
Either way, it was a lousy sequel to a fine original.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:35:09 AM PDT
by
LanPB01
To: InvisibleChurch
Yes, following Morpheus's speech. Along with it is Neo's love scene with Trinity.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:36:36 AM PDT
by
chouli
To: InvisibleChurch
There's a scene where the entire underground city of Zion is having a celebration. It turns into a combination dance/sex scene (Neo and Trinity sneak away from the group for some time together). It was a long, tedious, drawn out scene that made me wonder if it was ever going to end.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:36:53 AM PDT
by
LanPB01
To: William McKinley
There is also a cameo by Cornell West. The reason for that:
But I did run into the very important and serious writer/philosopher Cornel West, who has a small role in Reloaded. Dr. West, now at Princeton University, is renowned for his 30-year-old book called Race Matters, as well as many other books on race, religion and philosophy. So how did he get involved in a sci-fi movie about machines and humans fighting each other in the galaxies?
"They [the Wachowskis] called me up and told me the first Matrix was inspired by my writing. They'd read Race Matters. They're intellectuals," he said. "You can talk Schopenhauer with them for hours."
Dr. West was surprised by all this; he didn't even know about the first Matrix. But that's how stars are born, isn't it?
Source: FoxNews.com
To: InvisibleChurch
A group freak dance in the stalactite-hung caves of Zion, with massive jungle drums while Neo and Trinity make love. No one worries about the stalactites dropping on the under-dressed freak-a-zoids of Zion from all the drumming, though. Strange, animalistic, muddite masses yearning to freak freely stuff.
Very curiously there is one out-of-place scence where a group of white-room, fully-dressed and scrubbed people -- like out of Kurbrick's 2001 -- act like air traffic controllers to allow Neo and Morpheus's ship to dock at Zion.
As if the film-makers considered two concepts for Zion -- a 2001-ish antiseptic techo-heaven, or a fish-canning ship sexual freak farm.
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:38:40 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: ewing
I didn't see it, I think there is also a lot of material alluding to the Bible and Christianity..and issues dealing with faith as wellAlthough I do not have a problem with it (I believe in freedom of religion) I will point out that the religion in The Matrix is Gnosticism -- which is an heretical form of Christianity. It has a lot in common with the Bible (on a superficial level) but I don't think Gnosticism will get you into Christ's Heaven.
I think people are silly to protest Harry Potter. Protesting Gnosticism actually does make more sense -- because some folks (perhaps not the movie producers) actually do see it, and promote it, as the True Path. It isn't, IMO.
To: Lorenb420
In the movie race-dividing maven Cornell West's hair is dyed black and his teeth are straightened by digital editing magic as I remember..
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:41:53 AM PDT
by
bvw
To: ewing
Are they saying that the people who went to this movie were techno-geeks that didn't shower first? >:)
-Eric
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posted on
05/16/2003 5:45:14 AM PDT
by
E Rocc
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