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75% of Americans oppose bank accounts for illegals
TIME-OUT PROJECT ^ | May 15, 2003 | Project USA

Posted on 05/15/2003 5:54:04 PM PDT by CIBvet

A new Roper poll shows that 3 out of 4 Americans oppose allowing financial corporations to open bank accounts in the United States for foreign nationals illegally in the country. Nevertheless, Bush Administration officials, like U.S. Treasurer Rosario Marin, are coordinating efforts between the Mexican government and the U.S. banking industry to step up the practice.

Ms. Marin, who "entered" the United States from Mexico when she was a teenager, recently returned from a trip to Mexico City where she met with Mexican officials to negotiate policies favorable to Mexicans. As reported in the San Francisco Chronicle, Marin was attempting to "drum up support for a Partnership for Prosperity program meant to tear down logistical and financial barriers that make it difficult for Mexicans working in the United States to send money home."

Critics say this is just another example of the Bush Administration's support for illegal immigration, but note that the Treasury Department, under Ms. Marin, has been particularly aggressive in encouraging illegal aliens to remain in the United States.

Recently, for example, the Treasury granted $1.3 million to an ethnically focused financial institution in North Carolina to help it open more branches. According to the Wall Street Journal, the business openly caters to illegal aliens and provides them banking services.

Treasury officials have begun trying to sell the effort to help illegal aliens send money out of the country as "pro-security," arguing that the law enforcement community can better track illegal alien money if it's in a bank.

However, the effort is not backed by Homeland Security; it is backed by banks, which have a clear profit motive, and by the Mexican government, which seeks an incremental amnesty for illegal aliens in the United States.

The Bush Administration should rebuff the big corporations and Mexico. The American government has a duty to enforce American laws, rather than encourage foreign nationals to break them.

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Americans Favor Tough Approach to Illegal Immigration (Roper Poll)
http://projectusa.org/Ezine/03-01-03-06.html#030515

North Carolina credit union banks on immigrants (Wall Street Journal)
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/news/archive/2003/05/09/financial1021EDT0047.DTL

U.S. treasurer says free flow of remittances can stimulate economies in Mexico's poor areas
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/05/09/international1801EDT6288.DTL

+== TAKE POSITIVE ACTION ==+

The first border death of the approaching summer season has now been reported, and, if this year is like previous ones, we can expect hundreds more of these tragedies before autumn.

Those who provide the magnets in the United States that lure illegal aliens across our dangerous borders carry some responsibility for the deaths. The Bush Administration, for example, rather than implement a firm and humane interior enforcement policy, which would largely end the border deaths, continues to put ethnic politics and corporate profiteering above the law and the will of the American people.

While the White House might get some political mileage out of allowing Rosario Marin, who, the White House often notes, is the "highest serving Latina" in the administration, to serve as U.S. Treasurer, selfish political advantages cannot take precedent over the public good. With three-quarters of all Americans opposing bank accounts for illegal aliens, the White House must reign in the Treasury Department no matter how ethnically dedicated Ms. Marin is to "her people," and no matter how much money banking corporations are making off illegal alien bank accounts.

Please call the White House comment line and say, "I am very disappointed by the Bush Administration's continued support for illegal immigration. Please tell George Bush I want the Treasury Department to stop pushing for bank accounts for illegal aliens."

White House comment line (9-5 EST, M-F) 202-456-1111
(This is important. If you can, please call several times this week.)

+== QUOTE OF THE WEEK ==+

"Form follows profit" is the aesthetic principle of our times.

Richard Rogers

+== EMAIL OF THE WEEK ==+

I wanted to let you know that I have taken your suggestion to call the White House comment line twice this week. Both operators told me that they are familiar with the issue (and agreed with our stance!) and seemed encouraged about my call.

Thank you,

Matt ____________________________ Permanent archive link:


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: americansovereignty; borders; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals
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To: SamiGirl
We M U S T start complaining L O U D L Y to restaurant managers, landscaping owners(and their CONTRACT HOLDERS), to the hospital Admin head and any other Mgr who is accepting phoney ID's/SSN's etc in order to hire their cheap labor.

Stand up in their face and ask him to spell his name for you correctly ... because you want to be absolutely sure you get it right when you expose HIM in the local Letters to the Editor, and before any other media who will surely show up on the sidewalk in front of his business to read your placards.

It shouldn't be too hard to find a few other patriotic America-Lovers to join you for an hour or so of FReeping and flag-waving, and to stand up for the AMERICA we love and can still remember.

21 posted on 05/15/2003 7:00:23 PM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: CIBvet
giving illegals would be a step in the right direction of controlling the underground economy, since banks under the direction of the federal government, monitor money transfers.

when i go to the super or to wal-mart especially, all i see is illegals paying with $100.00 bills. this means that there must be a huge underground economy.

i would support an income sales tax to replace the i.r.s., or at least most of the i.r.s. get the i.r.s. out of our lives, and at the same time, make illegals pay their share.

illegals pay some taxes--those on purchases. but they should be paying more and the way to do it would be the national sales tax.

the democrats would be against it because it would "unfairly" place the burden on the "poor". but what do the democrats actually do for the working class or poor?
22 posted on 05/15/2003 7:00:34 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is democracy .)
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To: CIBvet; Howlin; ohioWfan; Miss Marple; Dane
ping
23 posted on 05/15/2003 7:02:04 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: CIBvet
A new Roper poll shows that 3 out of 4 Americans oppose allowing financial corporations to open bank accounts in the United States for foreign nationals illegally in the country.

Three out of four Americans should shut their traps and vote GOP!

< /big tent bendover>




24 posted on 05/15/2003 7:04:00 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: waterstraat
I thought you needed a social security card to get a bank account? All money held by illegals should be forfited(just before the illegals are extradited), and put into a fund for jobless americans.

I disagree.

The forfeited assets should be paid as bounty to those apprehending Illegals.




25 posted on 05/15/2003 7:06:11 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Joe, I can't even stomach right now to tell you all the changes I've witnessed in Alaska since I first arrived in '64 re: Illegals and their negative impact on our State.

We have absolutely got to stand up and take them on, along with their liberal/bureaucRAT/welfare PROMOTERS. We've got to be willing to go to WAR, take them on HEAD ON .... NOW ... if we ever hope to look ourselves and our children in the eye 10 years from now. Because by then without dramatic action taken NOW, we won't recognize the America that'll be left.

And we will only have ourselves to blame.

27 posted on 05/15/2003 7:14:59 PM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: All
Gotta run for now ... back in a few hrs.

Thanks for your ACTION.

28 posted on 05/15/2003 7:20:17 PM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Right here in Anc.

Where are you? Back in a few hrs.

29 posted on 05/15/2003 7:22:41 PM PDT by CIBvet (It's about preserving OUR Borders, OUR Language and OUR American Culture)
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To: CIBvet
another pi$$ pour idea bought to us by spinless RINO's.
30 posted on 05/15/2003 7:24:54 PM PDT by pointsal
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To: CIBvet
Thought you may be interested, I wrote this to another poster today, that suggest we make it easier for people to enter our country and work.....

___________________________________________________________ Can I be truthful here?

Have you ever been to a major city in the southwest? Houston, Los Angeles, Phoenix, San Diego, San Bernardino, Dallas, San Antonio etc etc?

Have you seen the crime close up created by illegal aliens? The drunk driving carnage? The murders? The rapes? Robberies? The never ending fraud and theft?

Have you stood at Broadway and Olympic in Sprawling Los Angeles and looked at the hundreds of thousands of illegals that have turned that once great city into a nightmare of crime, fraud, drugs, cheap tacky stores that are commonly seen in cities like Tijuana?

Ever walked down the big city, anywhere in the southwest United States, and looked at any given intersection, where you will see literally thousands of poor, uneducated illegals pushing multiple baby carriages, surrounded by crowds of other small children. While most all of the women that are pushing baby carriages appear to pregnant? This is on every single corner of almost every single intersection and bus stop. Are they all here to work?

Areas of once nice homes and neighborhoods now filled with 20 or 30 people involved in every criminal act known to man? So bad that every good neighbor, regardless of race has fled.

Ever seen the organized gangs made up of illegal aliens that prey upon the innocent Hispanics, women and children, or anyone else that crosses their path? Brutal people that don't give a damn about you. People that aren't afraid of your laws or your jails....

Do you honestly think these *millions* of illegals are all here to bus dishes and mow lawns?

Do you really think these people are not choking off our limited social services that were met for American citizens. The social strain caused by this is epic.

Have you ever conducted a criminal fraud investigation involving illegal aliens that make a living counterfeiting anything of value, producing fraudulent ID, SSNs, dealing drugs, prostitution, theft, robbery, and realized that's it's so out of control, so deep, so wide spread, that some people in the business have just fled, realizing this is borderline uncontrollable and down right frightening to even a seasoned investigator?

And finally, do you not think that the illegals that actually want to work are not taking jobs from Americans? Driving down the wages? Driving up our taxes?

Go take a look for yourself. Go alone. Spend a week. Take a hard look.

31 posted on 05/15/2003 7:26:01 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: CIBvet
I have complained to managers and have met with lots of resistance and even nastiness. It would be nice to live in a perfect world where our elected officials would put an end to this. A country -- even one as big and as successful as ours -- cannot continue to absorb so many illegals without negative effects to its society and economy.
32 posted on 05/15/2003 7:36:01 PM PDT by SamiGirl
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To: CIBvet
Geez, I think it's bad enough that my bank's ATMs (B of A) make me choose between English and Espanol before I can even start a transaction. They should give out pesos for those who choose Spanish, and see how quickly habits will change.
33 posted on 05/15/2003 7:50:14 PM PDT by GnuHere
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To: Sabertooth
Three out of four Americans should shut their traps and vote GOP!

It seems to me that the GOP is in a contest with the Dems to see who can appease the hispanics the most.

While George Bush has done an outstanding job dealing with out external security, he is worthless with respect to protecting our borders. It's not only the GOP at the federal level, our state GOP does it as well. Washington state is now one of five or six states to grant in-state tuition rates to illegals--even though we are supposedly in a fiscal crisis. This came about in part due to the state Republican legislators.

I don't know what the answer is or what effective form of action that we could potentially take. However, if Jorge Bush want to turn us into a third-world ____-hole, I am going to be sitting on my hands during the next election

34 posted on 05/15/2003 8:02:28 PM PDT by eeman
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To: MatthewViti
I'm in the 75% Matthew.
35 posted on 05/15/2003 8:04:11 PM PDT by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004!! Leadership, Morality, Integrity)
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To: Mulder
The polititians are doing everything possible to ENCOURAGE illegals.

They want unchecked illegal immegration and it's for more than just votes.
36 posted on 05/15/2003 8:07:53 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: CIBvet
I'm with you CIBvet. Anyone for open borders is either naive or a true America hater who wants to "Bring it all down" like Prof. DeGenova as reported by F.A.I.R.

STEIN REPORT XXXXX Tuesday, April 01 2003 10:20:30 ET XXXXX PRO-IMMIGRATION PROF. WISHES FOR 'MILLION MOGADISHUS' According to National Review Online, "Last Wednesday, Columbia University assistant professor Nicholas DeGenova told the audience at a faculty-led antiwar teach-in that he wished 'for a million Mogadishus' to visit U.S. soldiers fighting in Iraq." According to the Columbia University biography of DeGenova, his teaching focuses on "transnational urban conjunctural spaces that link the U.S. and Latin America as a standpoint of critique from which to interrogate U.S. nationalism, political economy, racialized citizenship, and immigration law." DeGenova has appeared at several open-borders conferences as a panelist and his writing has been highly critical of immigration enforcement. He is also scheduled to speak at a Brecht Forum event April 3. The discussion, titled "The New Internments" focuses on detention of illegal aliens under the NSEERS program. The Brecht Forum says, "In the hysteria that the Bush administration has continued to foment for over a year in its push for the continued militarization of the globe, a gutted constitution, and a ghoulish vision of endless war, immigrants in the U.S. have been ‘disappeared’ and deported at alarming rates."

37 posted on 05/15/2003 8:08:51 PM PDT by Missouri
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To: CIBvet
Ms. Marin, who "entered" the United States from Mexico when she was a teenager

Did Marin enter this contry legally in 1984?

None of the considerable number of biographies avaliable on the net discuss this detail of her arrival in Los Angeles.

38 posted on 05/15/2003 8:34:57 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: CIBvet
Thank you FRiend.
39 posted on 05/15/2003 8:53:33 PM PDT by MeekMom ((HUGE Ann Coulter Fan!!!) (Life-long Python Addict))
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To: ohioWfan
good to hear :]
40 posted on 05/15/2003 9:24:28 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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