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Democrats....Bush Key on Assault Weapons
Associated Press - Las Vegas Sun.com ^ | May 14, 2003 | Jim Abrams

Posted on 05/14/2003 2:32:06 PM PDT by Godebert

By JIM ABRAMS

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -

President Bush should take the lead in overcoming resistance within his own party to extending an assault weapons ban due to expire next year, Democrats said Wednesday.

"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said a day after House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told reporters that the 1994 law banning the manufacture of 19 types of common military-style assault weapons would not be renewed.

Schumer said the gun bill would be an issue in the 2004 election, a development that could pose problems for Democrats who represent districts with strong gun rights sentiment. The assault ban vote was also a campaign topic in 1994, the year Republicans recaptured the House after spending 40 years in the minority.

Bush, taking a position at odds with the National Rifle Association, has voiced support for extending the ban, and White House spokesman Ari Fleischer on Wednesday said that support would carry weight in Congress.

"This is a matter that the House has to work out, of course, by listening to the will of its members, but the president's position is clear on it," Fleischer said. "When the president states his position like that, it helps get the message to the Congress."

Fleischer would not say whether Bush would pressure DeLay to bring such a bill up for a vote. DeLay, R-Texas, on Tuesday indicated that there would be no effort to renew the current law before it expires on Sept. 13, 2004. "The votes in the House are not there to reauthorize it," he said.

"The real question is will the president weigh in and ask the leaders to schedule a vote," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., who as a senior adviser to President Clinton played a key role in guiding the 1994 legislation through Congress.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antigun; assaultweaponsban; awb; bang; banglist; billofrights; bush; constitution; gungrabbers; oathofoffice
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To: deport
"I have no idea how he'd know..... but it's on his home page.....

Pizza and Fox News.

Pizza???? Why he's a fast food traitor! I still remember one of his first spam threads entitled "Dogs on the grill"......freepers...tell me what you grilled tonight....

He and lil Freddie, always trying to find a "knew" friend.....

361 posted on 05/14/2003 9:03:12 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
juvenile manner

Coming from someone that posts a sumo wrestler to make fun of someone, that's hilarious.

362 posted on 05/14/2003 9:03:38 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Kil-lin' is my bid-ness, lay dees. And bid-ness is goooood.)
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To: TomServo
I have no battle against the President I have battles with the issues. If the President happens to be on the side of the liberals I take issue. If he is on the side of conservatives I support him fully, unlike the Bots that just blind support.


363 posted on 05/14/2003 9:04:48 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Sir Gawain
that's hilarious.

Yeah, I thought so too.

364 posted on 05/14/2003 9:05:51 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: AlbionGirl
Did he take Pennsylvania, Michigan, Missouri, Minnesota

He took Missouri,(and Ohio which wasn't mentioned) and Minnesota should not have even been a contest like it was.

As for Michigan(Are you in Albion, MI), I knew it was over when I heard Gore's two commercials on the radio. It was pure genius as much as I hate to admit it.

1. Gore was "pro-gun". I knew that was BS, but he brought in Tommy Lee Jones to help blunt it.

2. The Japanese. Gore played an ad bringing up bad memories among autoworkers. Iacocca almost nailed him on his envirowackoness. Gore responded on that ad, and you might have heard it if you get Lansing radio in Albion. (paraphrasing) "I'm an autoworker. Just an autoworker. Gore would have Americans build the environmental stuff. If we don't, the Japanese will".

Gore took pro-gun Macomb and Monroe(Which Posthumus won, although he lost because of state workers) to more than make up for the yooper vote which he lost. A high black vote turnout elsewhere clinched it.

Now, Bush will need these states in 2004. Will going anti-gun play to the yoopers and swing voters in Macomb, Monroe, St Clair, Shiawasse, Roscommon, Clare, Alpena, and Lenawaee county?

Many of these gunowners are democrat leaning voters or split ticketers with a union card. Bush received 60% of the gun vote according to the exit polls. 79% of the gun activist vote.

The only advantage in MI from an Anti stance that I see is in Okemos or Oakland County, and that's outnumbered by the counties I listed above.

As for Bush's reason, I think he want's to make a play for Jersey and New York, and hope this doesn't get to his desk and hurt him here.

365 posted on 05/14/2003 9:06:04 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("It's the same ole story, same ole song and dance, my friend")
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To: Sir Gawain
I'm seeing a theme here. That one really cut you deeply, didn't it?
366 posted on 05/14/2003 9:06:39 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Howlin
lol

yeah we do, the sad truth that grover norquest is a traitor.

367 posted on 05/14/2003 9:06:50 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Godebert
He lost Maryland and Delaware, but it's debatable if those are Southern. As a Yankee.....we don't want to claim them. :)
368 posted on 05/14/2003 9:07:23 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("It's the same ole story, same ole song and dance, my friend")
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To: TLBSHOW
Hunreds of people, including Jim Robinson, knew exactly what you meant.
369 posted on 05/14/2003 9:07:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: TLBSHOW
I support him fully
That's not until.... May 1, 2004
370 posted on 05/14/2003 9:07:56 PM PDT by deport
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To: Dan from Michigan
So you are forcing them on US? Thanks a lot!
371 posted on 05/14/2003 9:08:16 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: deport
ROFLOL !!!!
372 posted on 05/14/2003 9:08:34 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Godebert
Unless Bush reverses his un-Constitutional and un-American position on this issue, he will not receive my vote. I'll vote Constitution Party again.

Okay, but you're throwing your vote away and becoming a tool of the Democratic Party. I dislike the assault weapons ban as much as anyone, but I would rather help Bush get reelected than aid and abet the Democratic candidate.

Bush has a good record on wars, tax cuts, military spending, and a number of other issues. Of course, we abhor his positions on AIDS money, education, guns, open borders, and some other things, but I would much rather have George W. Bush as president than Al Goreleone or any other Democrat. At the very least, Bush has been a strong leader and a conservative on many issues.
373 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:05 PM PDT by Jonez712 (I <3 America)
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To: TLBSHOW
If the President happens to be on the side of the liberals I take issue.

I want you to really think about the term "Good Cop, Bad Cop", Todd. Just really think about that for a few hours. If you do (and I hope you will), I think you'll see what he is doing. Just think about that in the context of this issue, for now.

374 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:15 PM PDT by TomServo (Bring Back Illbay!!!)
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To: Howlin
no one is interested in your house duty or shopping agenda on them either.
375 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:28 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: TomServo
Aren't you the dreamer!
376 posted on 05/14/2003 9:09:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Aren't you the dreamer!

Well - as a matter of fact, I am sleepy at the moment. :-)

377 posted on 05/14/2003 9:11:10 PM PDT by TomServo (Bring Back Illbay!!!)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
That one really cut you deeply, didn't it?

Hey, conservatives are supposed to be the ones that argue issues, right? Third grade cutdowns on a site that's supposed to contain intelligent debate is pretty pathetic.

378 posted on 05/14/2003 9:11:31 PM PDT by Sir Gawain (Kil-lin' is my bid-ness, lay dees. And bid-ness is goooood.)
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To: AlbionGirl
Yes, sweetheart, he took Missouri! And will again.
379 posted on 05/14/2003 9:11:32 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: TLBSHOW
Lots of people on this forum enjoy live threads, which, I suppose is why you don't like them. No Muslim bashing or Bush bashing on them.

And if you'll look at them, those live threads get considerably more posts than your silly little Bush bashing threasds, until people show up to try to counterbalance your lies. Other than that, you hardly get any replies at all.
380 posted on 05/14/2003 9:11:55 PM PDT by Howlin
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