Democrats....Bush Key on Assault Weapons

Associated Press - Las Vegas Sun.com ^ | May 14, 2003 | Jim Abrams

[Godebert]

By JIM ABRAMS

ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -

President Bush should take the lead in overcoming resistance within his own party to extending an assault weapons ban due to expire next year, Democrats said Wednesday.

"If the bill dies we will lay it at the president's doorstep," Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., said a day after House Majority Leader Tom DeLay told reporters that the 1994 law banning the manufacture of 19 types of common military-style assault weapons would not be renewed.

Schumer said the gun bill would be an issue in the 2004 election, a development that could pose problems for Democrats who represent districts with strong gun rights sentiment. The assault ban vote was also a campaign topic in 1994, the year Republicans recaptured the House after spending 40 years in the minority.

Bush, taking a position at odds with the National Rifle Association, has voiced support for extending the ban, and White House spokesman Ari Fleischer on Wednesday said that support would carry weight in Congress.

"This is a matter that the House has to work out, of course, by listening to the will of its members, but the president's position is clear on it," Fleischer said. "When the president states his position like that, it helps get the message to the Congress."

Fleischer would not say whether Bush would pressure DeLay to bring such a bill up for a vote. DeLay, R-Texas, on Tuesday indicated that there would be no effort to renew the current law before it expires on Sept. 13, 2004. "The votes in the House are not there to reauthorize it," he said.

"The real question is will the president weigh in and ask the leaders to schedule a vote," said Rep. Rahm Emanuel, D-Ill., who as a senior adviser to President Clinton played a key role in guiding the 1994 legislation through Congress.

[Carolinamom]

now put them in context please

I'd like to see YOU "put them in context"....if you can, that is.

BTW Please learn to spell LIAR, a word you fling about all too often.

[Amelia]

As sales soar, Bushmaster shrugs at bid to renew gun ban

G-O-P move likely dooms assault weapons ban

WASHINGTON - The House of Representatives will not extend a 1994 assault-weapons ban set to expire next year despite President George W. Bush's call for its renewal, House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said.

What's the problem here?

[Dan from Michigan]

Let me guess. The police term used for them is "Blunt Objects".

[Howlin]

He can't put his OWN words into context; unless Ann Coulter or Michael Savage and now -- Chuck Baldwin write it first, he's at a loss.

[TLBSHOW]

That is not the link, the spew was this


Even the new president of the NRA says this is a tempest in a teapot, egged on by extremist.

The NRA is not the LEAST bit worried about this "bill."


29 posted on 05/14/2003 6:15 PM EDT by Howlin
[

[justshe]

You forgot Rush Limbaugh.

[FreedomCalls]

The extension bill that Schumer et al put up in the Senate does a lot more than renew the current law's sunset. It makes it permanent. Bush said he would support a renewal of the current bill i.e. one which would again expire in another 10 years, not one that will never expire.

It also adds another more provision. This one will ban the import of high capacity magazines even if they were manufactured overseas before the ban (a current loophole). This is an enactment of another gun control law, which Bush is opposed to. He has said he supports the enforcement of current law and not the creation of new ones. Since this provision is a new gun law, he can legitimately oppose this bill for that reason as well.

He now has two reasons to not sign the Senate version and still keep his promise to sign an extension of the current law if it arrives on his desk.

[TLBSHOW]

I asked you to put them in context.

I asked if you support the ban.

I asked for a link to the NRA president.

Either post em or don't plain for all to see what you are doing.

[TLBSHOW]

I can do it dear, its you that hasn't a clue.

[Howlin]

And I asked you at 6:43 EDT to post ALL the lies you claim I've posted.

And you still haven't. As usual. You're only trying to divert attention away from yourself.

I told you I've already discussed the weapons ban with people whose opinion I value. You aren't one of them.

And Amelia just gave you some links.

[Howlin]

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said yesterday the president "continues to believe" that the gun ban was "reasonable" and should remain law. But Mr. LaPierre of the NRA said reports of the issue causing a rift between the president and one of his most loyal political allies have been overblown. "I'm sure that the anti-firearms senators and congressmen and their allies in the national media would love to make this about President Bush and the NRA," Mr. LaPierre said. "But the truth is, it's going to be resolved in the Congress. "We're going to try to make sure that they never get this phony bill passed into law again," he said.

[TomServo]

You're bound and determined to remain #1, aren't you? ;-)

[Howlin]

I think I'm confused; I thought I was the "lair," not that I was suppose to show who the real "lair" really is.

[longrider]

I'm with you, Warthog. Everyone who wants to renew this ban should be recall or voted out of office.

[Howlin]

LINK

[justshe]

Your turn......post the lies....or shut up.

[deport]

WHOOOOOPS...... now on to the next divisive issue...

Yep.... put the heat were the bill is passed, in congress.

[Howlin]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/908332/posts

[TLBSHOW]

To: Howlin

Even the new president of the NRA says this is a tempest in a teapot, egged on by extremist. The NRA is not the LEAST bit worried about this "bill."

Do you have a direct quote and a source for these supposed comments by the new NRA president?


54 posted on 05/14/2003 7:04 PM EDT by Godebert
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

---

To: Godebert; Amelia

I saw him on one of the cable shows the other day, and honestly, I cannot remember which one.

But I know that some others have heard the same thing on NPR.


55 posted on 05/14/2003 7:05 PM EDT by Howlin
[

[Godebert]

Thanks for the link, though I didn't see any reference what-so-ever to the comment you attributed to the president of the NRA earlier in this thread.