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DID YOU KNOW YOU ARE SUING LOS ANGELES
Townhall.com Opinion Alert email ^ | May 14, 2003 | Terence Jeffrey

Posted on 05/14/2003 10:20:24 AM PDT by dixie sass

You're suing Los Angeles Terence Jeffrey

This may be the first that you've heard of it, but the fact of the matter is you're suing Los Angeles -- and you're winning.

But that's not good news. Winning may cost you money. It definitely will cost people in Los Angeles some freedom.

This is a story that began at the ballot box.

In 1994, Californians voted 59 percent to 41 percent for Proposition 187. "Essentially," the Los Angeles Times reported then, "the proposition would bar illegal immigrants from public schools, and prohibit public agencies from providing them with non-emergency health and social services."

An illegal alien showing up at a California hospital with a medical emergency would still get care -- courtesy of the taxpayers. But an illegal alien who sought non-emergency care would have to pay for it himself.

Prop. 187 was immediately challenged in federal court -- the supposition being that the Constitution required Californians to pay the education and non-emergency health care costs of foreign nationals illegally in the state. In 1995, a federal judge struck down the proposition. California appealed. But Democratic California Gov. Gray Davis dropped the appeal in 1999. Prop. 187 was voided.

As California's illegal alien population grew, so did the strain on public health services in Los Angeles County.

In January, the county Board of Supervisors voted to rein in costs by shutting down Rancho Los Amigos (a hospital that specializes in rehabilitating people with brain and spinal cord injuries) and cutting 100 beds from County-USC Medical Center. On May 5, Dr. Thomas Garthwaite, director of the county's Department of Health Services (DHS), which runs the hospitals, submitted a report to the board indicating that keeping Rancho open and not cutting the 100 beds from USC would cause DHS to run a cumulative deficit of $993.2 million between now and fiscal year 2007-08.

At the request of Supervisor Mike Antonovich, Garthwaite also submitted a report on April 3 assessing the cost to DHS of providing health care to illegal immigrants. "We estimate the net cost to DHS of treating undocumented aliens to be about $340 million," wrote Garthwaite. According to DHS spokesman John Wallace, this annual sum of $340 million is the cost DHS pays for treating illegal aliens over and above reimbursements it receives from the state and federal governments for providing emergency, prenatal and birthing care to illegal immigrants.

This means the massive deficit projected for DHS between now and 2008 is less than what DHS is likely to pay in that period to provide non-emergency health care to illegal aliens. These are costs the county would not incur if Prop. 187 were enforced.

But it gets worse.

In March, Neighborhood Legal Services of Los Angeles and the Legal Aid Foundation of Los Angeles joined with the American Civil Liberties Union in suing the county to stop it from shutting Rancho and cutting the beds from USC. The federal Legal Services Corporation (LSC) funds both Neighborhood Legal Services and the Legal Aid Foundation.

Last week, federal Judge Florence-Marie Cooper issued a temporary order in the case stopping the county from making the cuts. According to the Los Angeles Times, Cooper said the cuts would cause "dangerous delays of needed medical treatment resulting in unnecessary deaths, strokes, heart attacks, amputations, renal failure, blindness, seizures, severe pain and increased risk of infection."

I asked LSC Communications Director Eric Kleiman how much money the federal government gives to the Legal Aid Foundation of L.A. and the Neighborhood Legal Services of L.A. and whether their suit against the county is in keeping with LSC's vision. They received $6.3 million and $3.2 million respectively in 2002, Kleiman responded by e-mail.

"The closure of the Los Angeles area's only publicly funded rehabilitation hospital, and the removal of 100 beds from the county's largest medical center, would have left countless low-income people in and around Los Angeles with nowhere to turn when faced with urgent health care problems," wrote Kleiman. "The litigation filed by two LSC grantees to prevent these cuts is intended to prevent a catastrophe for poor people who rely on these facilities to stay in good health -- and, indeed, in some instances, to stay alive. This suit falls well within our grantees' congressional mandate to serve the legal needs of the area's low-income population, and its merits were endorsed by the federal judge who issued the order in their favor."

If you're a taxpayer, this is your lawsuit -- and you're winning. Meanwhile, trapped between a judge's ruling on Prop. 187 and a judge's ruling here, Los Angelenos are losing not only money, but also their recourse to representative government.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: illegals; immigrations; losangeles; suit
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My, my....
1 posted on 05/14/2003 10:20:24 AM PDT by dixie sass
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To: Joe Hadenuf; madfly; Grampa Dave; Carry_Okie; farmfriend
CA ping.
2 posted on 05/14/2003 10:21:53 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: dixie sass
I voted for Prop 187 back in 1994 when still living in that sinkhole state and THANKFULLY don't live there today! It was a joke that we passed that law and then NOT have it take affect...damn democrats!
3 posted on 05/14/2003 10:22:35 AM PDT by princess leah
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To: CounterCounterCulture; dalereed; Jim Robinson; Bob J; diotima; Libertina; unspun
Interesting, first that I have heard of this...
4 posted on 05/14/2003 10:22:40 AM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: Sabertooth; JackelopeBreeder; madfly
Oink.
5 posted on 05/14/2003 10:27:24 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Taxman; Bigun; chesty_puller; Eagle9; ATOMIC_PUNK; Memother; jenx
It's a loverly day, sighhhhhhhhh On one hand it's "a good thing" on the other it, well use your imagination...
6 posted on 05/14/2003 10:27:41 AM PDT by dixie sass (GOD bless America)
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To: dixie sass
"Los Angelenos are losing not only money, but also their recourse to representative government."

Yeah,
but we're sort of used to that by now.

7 posted on 05/14/2003 10:28:10 AM PDT by norton (Two years to go)
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To: dixie sass
How can this be? I thought millions of illegal aliens are good for us and help our economy...
8 posted on 05/14/2003 10:33:34 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: norton
There's an old bumper sticker: "If voting could really change anything, it would be illegal too".
9 posted on 05/14/2003 10:36:04 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: SauronOfMordor
There's an old bumper sticker: "If voting could really change anything, it would be illegal too".

Well, instead of making voting illegal, the federal government instead let Californians vote on Propostion 187, then after we won, they simply burned our ballots and declared our free election illegal.

10 posted on 05/14/2003 10:38:52 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: dixie sass
It's WAY TOO LATE to save ourselves. Over time we are doomed, enjoy what's left until that day comes, because it's coming!
11 posted on 05/14/2003 10:47:30 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: princess leah
damn democrats!

CHUCKIE SCHUMER JUDGES!!!

12 posted on 05/14/2003 10:48:30 AM PDT by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I never understood the value of ballot initiatives anyway. Anytime a good one was passed, the courts declared it unconstitutional. Why go through the charade?
13 posted on 05/14/2003 10:50:44 AM PDT by speedy
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To: dixie sass
this annual sum of $340 million is the cost DHS pays for treating illegal aliens over and above reimbursements it receives from the state and federal governments for providing emergency, prenatal and birthing care to illegal immigrants.

How much are these reimbursements in addition to the $340M & how much is the TOTAL cost to treat illegals in LA County? And this is only one county in the US!

14 posted on 05/14/2003 10:56:06 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: dixie sass
"Last week, federal Judge Florence-Marie Cooper issued a temporary order in the case stopping the county from making the cuts."

I thought Federal Judges were just supposed to rule on the Constitutionality of laws passed by the legislature rather order the legislature to "do something."

15 posted on 05/14/2003 11:00:09 AM PDT by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: princess leah
Prop. 187 was immediately challenged in federal court -- the supposition being that the Constitution required Californians to pay the education and non-emergency health care costs of foreign nationals illegally in the state.

I wish someone could point out this specific article, paragraph, footnote, ibid, etc to me.

16 posted on 05/14/2003 11:53:53 AM PDT by cgk (Liberal truisms are the useless children of hindsight.)
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To: dixie sass
As someone who has lived here for 13 years, I respectfully submit that the state motto should be changed to "BOHICA".

For the acronym challenged, it stands for "Ben Over, Here It Comes Again."

Best Regards

Sergio
17 posted on 05/14/2003 12:04:15 PM PDT by Sergio (Thinking of something witty to say.)
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To: dixie sass
Just one more reason my husband and I have our moving truck reserved for May 31st. We'd stay and help with the fight, but seeing as most companies in my husband's line of work seem to be moving their jobs to other parts of the country, it just wasn't possible.

It's not just medical care, either. It's schools, too. I used to teach for Los Angeles. Most of the students were illegals or born to illegals. Guess what? 100% of the students got free lunch. Not one paying student in the whole school. I could never say, "There's no such thing as a free lunch", because for them, there definately was. I grew up on a tight budget, but my mom had a few cents to make us PB&J. Most of my students came with convenience snack foods that my mother would NEVER have bought, because they were a waste of money. Their parents could spend $2 a day on junk food and soda for them, but couldn't afford PB&J to feed the children they chose to bring in to the world?

And I guess our taxes paid for the hospital care of these kids, too. I feel sorry for the kids, since it's not their fault. It's just that the line has to be drawn somewhere.
18 posted on 05/14/2003 4:49:50 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: ReagansShinyHair
I feel sorry for the kids

I don't.

Beside the long overdue sweep of California to eject illegal aliens I'd like to see a change in the 14th Amendment. Children not born to at least one parent who was a US citizen at the time of their birth are not automatically given citizenship status.

This eliminates most of the motivation behind the recent tradition of pregnant Mexican females racing across the border to give birth in a US hospital so as to gain legal residence status through their anchor babies.

Four generations of aliens and their citizen progeny have swamped the educational system, the medical system and the legal system in California. California can't afford to continue to educate, cure and incarcerate Mexico's children.

19 posted on 05/14/2003 6:16:29 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Amerigomag
"I'd like to see a change in the 14th Amendment. Children not born to at least one parent who was a US citizen at the time of their birth are not automatically given citizenship status."

I wholeheartedly agree. I still feel sorry for the kids, since it's not their fault who they were born to, but I also don't think it's my responsibility to raise Mexico's children. They are going to grow up and be a large part of the problem.

They are drowning, and they are trying to stand on the heads of US Citizens to keep from doing so.
20 posted on 05/14/2003 9:33:37 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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