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In Defense of the Patriot Act: The law provides needed tools to protect Homeland Security.
FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | Tuesday, May 13, 2003 | By Orrin Hatch

Posted on 05/12/2003 10:08:26 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

In Defense of the Patriot Act
By Orrin Hatch
USA Today | May 13, 2003


The tragic events of Sept. 11, 2001 — and the killing of more than 3,000 Americans — are forever etched in our nation's memory. Soon after this tragic attack, Congress in bipartisan fashion enacted the Patriot Act, a long-overdue set of measures that provided law enforcement and intelligence agencies with basic tools needed to fight and win the war against terrorism.

In 1996, I proposed many of these same measures in an anti-terrorism bill. Had these measures been in place prior to 9/11, law enforcement agencies may well have been able to catch some or all of the terrorists.

The Patriot Act has not eroded any of the rights we hold dear as Americans. I would be the first to call for corrective action, were that the case. Yet not one of the civil liberties groups has cited one instance of abuse of our constitutional rights, one decision by any court that any part of the Patriot Act was unconstitutional or one shred of evidence to contradict the fact that these tools protect what is perhaps our most important civil liberty: the freedom from future terrorist attacks.

Several important provisions of the Patriot Act are scheduled to sunset, or expire, on Dec. 31, 2005. When the bill originally was passed by the Senate, I opposed the sunset, along with 95 other senators.

Given the importance of the Patriot Act tools to our nation's war against terrorism, why would we simply sunset these provisions when we know full well that the terrorists will not sunset their evil intentions? There is no logical reason for our nation to lay down some of its most effective arms while fighting this war.

Last Thursday, the Senate added another important anti-terrorism provision to the arsenal of weapons to combat terrorism. The Senate fixed a gap in the original 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to authorize the gathering of intelligence information relating to "lone-wolf" terrorists — who cannot be linked to an international organization or state. This bipartisan proposal will enhance the ability of the FBI and intelligence agencies to investigate terrorists and detect their plots to prevent devastating attacks on our country. Lawmakers were right to fix this glaring problem.

Congress has had a full opportunity to weigh and assess the benefits of the Patriot Act, and that will continue whether or not there is a sunset. Some have claimed that the sunset is needed to ensure proper oversight. That is silly. Congress can always exercise oversight and change or repeal any law if warranted.

The bottom line is clear: We should not undermine or limit our law enforcement and intelligence agencies' efforts by imposing requirements that go above and beyond those required by the Constitution. That would only have the effect of protecting terrorists and criminals while endangering the lives of innocent Americans.



TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: homelandsecurity; orrinhatch; patriotact
Tuesday, May 13, 2003

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1 posted on 05/12/2003 10:08:26 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Good synopsis. I agree with it.
2 posted on 05/12/2003 10:10:09 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: JohnHuang2
Poor Hatch his plan to make the PA forever is under attack as it should be.
3 posted on 05/12/2003 10:13:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: wirestripper
Congress has had a full opportunity to weigh and assess the benefits of the Patriot Act, and that will continue whether or not there is a sunset. Some have claimed that the sunset is needed to ensure proper oversight. That is silly. Congress can always exercise oversight and change or repeal any law if warranted.

How many "laws" have been rescinded? I think that congress, and EVERY other lawmaking body on this continent *should* review every law on the books biannually.

This would have the added bonus of keeping them busy enough that nonsense like gun-free zones, anti-smoking on private property ordinances, and seat-belt laws wouldn't even see the light of day, because the legislators would be too busy reading and trying to understand the laws their co-conspirators had already written!

4 posted on 05/12/2003 11:41:42 PM PDT by Don W (Lead, follow, or get outta the way!)
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To: wirestripper
We should not undermine or limit our law enforcement and intelligence agencies' efforts by imposing requirements that go above and beyond those required by the Constitution.

The above shows Orrin has it backward. Nether he, nor you apperently, would know an unenumerated right if it bit him or you on the ass.

Unless the Constitution authorizes it, it's out of bounds. The PA is a huge exercise in using the Constitution as toilet paper.

5 posted on 05/13/2003 12:43:57 AM PDT by eno_
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To: JohnHuang2; TLBSHOW
Several important provisions of the Patriot Act are scheduled to sunset, or expire, on Dec. 31, 2005. When the bill originally was passed by the Senate, I opposed the sunset, along with 95 other senators.

We should look at this sunset as an opportunity to amend(if that's the word I'm looking for) those portions that aren't working or are unconstitutional.

The Spectator Interview/Robert L. Bartley
http://tas.spectator.org/article.asp?art=18
(snip)
TAS In the news today Mrs. Clinton is calling for a national I.D. card, and meanwhile there is some rumbling from even very conservative groups about what we might call collateral damage to American liberty from the war on terrorism. Do you worry about it?

RLB I have a lot of confidence in our two hundred years of experience in digesting whatever comes along. Right now we have a judge here in New York ruling that it’s not OK for war protesters to march up and down the streets. She probably wouldn’t have ruled that way before September 11, but it’s not going to be the collapse of free speech. We are a society of the law and obviously we will have to strike a balance. I’m not fearful that we’re going to turn into some kind of police state.

6 posted on 05/13/2003 6:28:58 AM PDT by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: eno_
The above shows Orrin has it backward. Nether he, nor you apperently, would know an unenumerated right if it bit him or you on the ass.

Orrin asked you if you could provide proof that your rights had been violated.

Over my 50+ years I see more protected rights than ever before. I also see more intrusion on the State level, but then, the constitution protects that intrusion in writing.

So where is the beef?

7 posted on 05/13/2003 9:02:31 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! .............(((Blam!.)))........... "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: eno_
You know what I find interesting about this whole situation? Our enemies have been bigger and more dangerous in the past and yet we never had to resort to an office of homeland security or a patriot act. Have our citizens become loser and whimps or is it our federal government who have become so?
8 posted on 05/13/2003 9:04:18 AM PDT by samuel_adams_us
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To: JohnHuang2
Given the importance of the Patriot Act tools to our nation's war against terrorism, why would we simply sunset these provisions when we know full well that the terrorists will not sunset their evil intentions? There is no logical reason for our nation to lay down some of its most effective arms while fighting this war.

I have a different approach - why don't YOU, Mr. Hatch, have the Justice Department provide to skeptical congressmen such as Sensenbrenner details about how each provision of the Patriot Act has been used and how it has aided in combating terrorism. If a provision is deemed effective, keep it. If it isn't or has been used in an excessive manner, kill it. Don't spike the debate on this issue in the name of expediency - there is still over two years left before this sunsets, which calls into question both your timing and your motives on this matter.

9 posted on 05/13/2003 9:05:45 AM PDT by dirtboy (One of these statements is false: 1. Groundhogs can climb trees. 2. Liberals have a clue)
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To: samuel_adams_us
Our enemies have been bigger and more dangerous in the past and yet we never had to resort to an office of homeland security or a patriot act.

Times are a bit different now, due to the speed of international travel and commerce - plus, in the past rather draconian actions have been taken during wartime and then relaxed afterwards. I'm not saying all of the Patriot Act is justified, but it's clear things have changed quite a bit since 1945...

10 posted on 05/13/2003 9:07:54 AM PDT by dirtboy (One of these statements is false: 1. Groundhogs can climb trees. 2. Liberals have a clue)
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To: JohnHuang2
So Orrin wasn't just playing a parliamentary game with this.
A lot of the sunsetting provisions have to do with aliens, maybe he's afraid of the political effect of confronting them during an election year...

One sunsetting provision, Section 215, allows fisa warrants if the atty gen finds probable cause- with a judge just reviewing that decision. I'd like a convincing explanation why probable cause shouldn't be left completely up to the judge to determine for himself.

12 posted on 05/13/2003 9:47:33 AM PDT by mrsmith
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To: mrsmith
Probably cause is mostly a joke anyway. Any snitch will "remember" you for a small fee. It is insulting that even this fig leaf is removed.
13 posted on 05/13/2003 1:21:15 PM PDT by eno_
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