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RACE FOR PRESIDENCY Sabbath may handicap Lieberman (considers Senate work of critical importance)
GANNETT NEWS SERVICE ^ | 5/12/03 | ERIN KELLY

Posted on 05/12/2003 3:24:18 AM PDT by Liz

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:38:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Unlike his rivals for the presidency, the Connecticut Democrat can't campaign on Saturdays.

Sen. Joe Lieberman's voice boomed out into the cavernous hall at the South Carolina Democratic Convention, but few people were listening. Most were focused on another presidential candidate, North Carolina's Sen. John Edwards.


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TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; electionpresident; lieberman
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Maybe LIEberman ought to regroup and try for the victim vote?
1 posted on 05/12/2003 3:24:18 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
I respect Lieberman's following his faith. Its a contrast with his party which practices situational ethics. Whether Democrats will vote in the primaries for a religious Jew is another question altogether.
2 posted on 05/12/2003 3:35:10 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Liz
Unlike his rivals for the presidency, the Connecticut Democrat can't campaign on Saturdays.

So if Lieberman was president, and somthing big happened. our president would be AWOL until sunday? In my book we need a full time president.

3 posted on 05/12/2003 3:37:45 AM PDT by chainsaw
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To: Liz
Is this the same Lieberman who was booted from his faith due to his abortion stand in the last election?
4 posted on 05/12/2003 3:47:28 AM PDT by opbuzz
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To: goldstategop
I have the most dreadful news. During the 2000 campaign Joey was all over the place on Saturdays; he drove, he rode and he campaigned. We saw him at several events in Washington, D.C. This article is all horse s**t.

That whole "strict observance" stuff is for cover. He would chow down on pork ribs in public on Passover if he felt it would get him the Presidency.

5 posted on 05/12/2003 3:48:20 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: goldstategop; chainsaw; opbuzz; Jimmy Valentine
I respect Lieberman's following his faith. Its a contrast with his party which practices situational ethics.

Speaking of situational ethics............

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A DIFFERENT LIEBERMAN REMEMBERED
(a staunch pro-abortion candidate makes a pro-life pledge)
Washington Times | 9/11/00 | George Archibald
September 11, 2000

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is a staunch supporter of abortion rights now, and even voted (on six different occasions) against a ban on partial-birth abortion, but Catholic leaders in Connecticut remember another Joe Lieberman.

He called on the state's archbishop with a pro-life pledge 12 years ago, when he was first a candidate for the U.S. Senate, and even told pro-life leaders he would have voted to confirm Judge Robert Bork for the U.S. Supreme Court.

Mr. Lieberman met with Archbishop John F. Whealon of Hartford to seek Catholic votes in the final stretch of his 1988 Democratic bid to oust 18-year Sen. Lowell P. Weicker Jr., a Republican who supported abortion rights, from the U.S. Senate.

"Joe was very liberal, like Weicker, but we had a poll on abortion that showed which way the wind was blowing," says Daniel Cosgrove, then the Democratic town chairman in Branford, Mr. Lieberman's hometown. The poll showed anti-abortion sentiment outweighed pro-choice views in urban areas throughout Connecticut. "In the Waterbury area, it was more than any, 12,000 [more] against," Mr. Cosgrove says.

Records of a meeting between Mr. Lieberman and top officials of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC) two months after the 1988 election quote Mr. Lieberman as saying he "thinks there are too many abortions," and promisinghe would not "apply a litmus test" against pro-life judicial nominees.

Archbishop Whealon has since died, but his former secretary, Father Thomas Berry, says he remembers the 1988 meeting where Mr. Lieberman "expressed himself as coming from a tradition in support of life, not in favor of abortion on demand."

"He expressed himself against abortion, all suicide, and euthanasia. His position on that definitely was well received by the archbishop and priests," Father Berry says.

A spokesman for Mr. Lieberman says Mr. Cosgrove's memory of the meeting with the archbishop "is not accurate," and says Mr. Lieberman has been consistently pro-choice. Mr. Cosgrove says he and state Sen. Regina Smith, who conducted the pro-life poll for the archdiocese, arranged for

Mr. Lieberman, then the state attorney general, to meet with the Catholic prelate before the election to lay out his support for Catholic pro-life positions, which Mr. Weicker had actively opposed.

The strategy worked, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman convinced the archbishop he favored pro-life positions and would vote differently than Mr. Weicker, thus winning Catholic support that pushed him to a narrow 10,000-vote victory — the only Democratic Senate upset of that year.

With Republican Vice President George Bush outpolling Democrat Michael S. Dukakis by almost 100,000 votes in Connecticut's presidential balloting that year, Mr. Lieberman's strategic appeal for pro-life votes countered the

Republican tide that otherwise might have benefited Mr. Weicker, Mr. Cosgrove says. Mr. Lieberman's winning margin was less than 1 percent of 1.4 million votes. Mr. Lieberman, an orthodox Jew, has defended his record, saying Jewish law is so deeply divided on the issue of abortion that even among orthodox Jews it may be construed as "a personal matter." The senator's spokesman, Dan Gerstein, insists there was no meeting between Mr. Lieberman and the archbishop before the 1988 election. "No one on staff at the time can remember a meeting with Archbishop Whealon during the campaign.

He had a private meeting with the archbishop after the election," the spokesman said. "Mr. Cosgrove's recollection of what was said at the meeting also is not accurate," Mr. Gerstein said. Mr. Lieberman "never said he would limit a woman's right to choose, that he would vote to ban abortion or to overturn Roe v. Wade."

The Supreme Court, in that 1973 case, held that a woman had a constitutional right to an abortion in certain circumstances. Mr. Lieberman has voted consistently pro-choice, both as a Connecticut state senator and U.S. senator, since his first elective office in 1970, Mr. Gerstein said.

Father Berry, now assigned to St. Mary's Parish in Newington, Conn., says Mr. Lieberman presented himself as a clear pro-life alternative, saying, "He was not an abortion activist as Senator Weicker was . . . and said his approach would be different."

In fact, Mr. Lieberman's pro-life assurances were so convincing that Archbishop Whealon arranged for the Democratic candidate to meet with Catholic priests throughout the state shortly before the November 1988 balloting. Mr. Lieberman's expressed pro-life views in those meetings, Father Berry said. "That probably was not insignificant" in the November 1988 election outcome, he said.

Two months after the election, Mr. Lieberman and key staff aides again met with pro-life leaders in Washington and assured them he was an ally, says Douglas Johnson, legislative director of the National Right to Life Committee (NRLC).

Mr. Lieberman said he would have voted to confirm Judge Bork to the Supreme Court had he been a member of the Senate during the confirmation hearings, according to written minutes of the meeting with Dr. Jack C. Willke, then the NRLC head, and Regina Smith, Connecticut's representative to the group.

Judge Bork, who was eventually denied confirmation, testified in Senate hearings that he would have voted to overturn Roe v. Wade. Mr. Lieberman "would have voted for Bork, under whom he studied" at Yale University law school, according to the meeting notes taken by Mr. Johnson.

The notes quoted Mr. Lieberman as saying: "I'm not going to vote against a judicial nominee just because he's pro-life. I'm not going to apply a litmus test."

Mr. Lieberman acknowledged there was disagreement among his own new Senate staff on the abortion issue, the notes show: "He thinks there are too many abortions, but many disagree, women will have them anyway. He is unsettled, ambivilent [sic]. Some staff on both sides. Always access to him or top staff, will be heard respectfully. Regina is great. Continue dialog." ####

6 posted on 05/12/2003 3:54:24 AM PDT by Liz
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To: chainsaw
In such a case, I have no doubt that he would be working. The article does point out that he does vote on Saturday when the Senate is in session on that day.

I will never vote for him, but that is a cheap shot.
7 posted on 05/12/2003 3:59:02 AM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Liz
The Sabbath did not stop LIEberman from seekng a tv photo op on Rosh Hoshana, nor did it keep him from monitoring the election in Florida
8 posted on 05/12/2003 4:27:32 AM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: Liz
GO GET HIM the lying liberal! Making a mockery of "faith", of course only democrats get passes on their faith and churches, JESSE and good old AL get to turn their houses of worship into campaign headquarters.
9 posted on 05/12/2003 4:31:05 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Liz

I think Joe could do well with a fall-back profession just in case.

10 posted on 05/12/2003 4:38:35 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: raybbr; RaceBannon; Just mythoughts
Come on down to Joe's Hyphenated-American Pander Party.

"I got the hyphenated-American vote locked up, for God's sake. Kerry's a nothing.
My grandfather, Senor Shaquille O’Liebermanelli Fu Ching changed his name. I claim
Irish, Latino, Black, Mediterranean, and Oriental voting blocs...er, I mean, roots."

" A donation of $10 grand gets you a ticket to my Hyphenated-American Pander Party.
Help yourself to corned beef burritos, pastrami Egg Fu Yung, grits in Marinara sauce,
vintage Manishevitz, and oregano bagels stuffed with teriyaki-glazed ham, chitlins
and chili peppers."

11 posted on 05/12/2003 4:54:47 AM PDT by Liz
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To: raybbr
He looks even better in clown makeup. LOL.
12 posted on 05/12/2003 4:55:43 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
Remember back a few years when Clinton's fedayeen said that they were going to take back "god" in their party?

I don't remember who it was that said it but it was funny to hear at the time, but sad and twisted to see all the leftist churches over past 6 months coming after President Bush about an unjust war.
13 posted on 05/12/2003 5:02:13 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Liz
Fourteen percent less time for people to see what a jerk he is.
14 posted on 05/12/2003 5:07:47 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Liz
If Loserman can compromise his faith by supporting late-term abortions and and homosexual marriage, he can find himself a "loophole" for this also.
15 posted on 05/12/2003 5:11:10 AM PDT by Alouette
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Don't give the creep any good ideas. LIEberman will invent new
holy days so he can lie low if he thinks it'll help his campaign.
16 posted on 05/12/2003 5:14:32 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Just mythoughts
I remember but like everything else the conniving Clintons said it went in one ear and out the other.
17 posted on 05/12/2003 5:15:55 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Liz
This is his schtick and he'll schtick to it as long as the thinks it will work.
18 posted on 05/12/2003 5:28:50 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
Schticky business isn't it?
19 posted on 05/12/2003 5:38:02 AM PDT by Liz
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To: raybbr
The definitive LIEberman:

Amazing resemblance, isn't it?

20 posted on 05/12/2003 5:41:17 AM PDT by Liz
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