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California Gun Owners Blamed For The Loss of Gun Rights
GunNewsDaily.com ^ | March 3, 2003 | Ralph Weller

Posted on 05/10/2003 6:51:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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California Gun Owners Blamed
For The Loss of Gun Rights

Gun Owners Are All Bark and no Bite!

By Ralph Weller
Editor, GunNewsDaily.com
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March 3, 2003 -   It has been suspected for quite some time that gun owners were generally all mouth and no action.  But, we really didn't understand the gravity of the situation until we received an email from John Brantuk, 2002 candidate for the 56th Assembly District in Southern California.  John is upset, and he has every right to be.

John had a shot of winning his district had he received the pro-gun vote.  Southern Californians don't need to be told how pro-Second Amendment John is.  Suffice it to say, he's one of those rare types who makes protecting our Second Amendment rights a top priority in his personal and public life.  But, the information he sent in his email is the type of information that makes the hearts soar of gun grabber Don Perata and other liberals of his ilk in Sacramento.  It is the kind of information liberals know about, but very few pro-gun types are willing to acknowledge.  So who got the pro-gun vote instead of John Brantuk?  The answer is most disappointing.

John took a look at a list of people that regularly attended gun shows in his district.  He compared the attendee list to voter registration lists to determine how many of the 12,000 gun show attendees were registered to vote.

Do you want to guess the results?  Would you say only half are registered?  You would be considered an eternal optimist if that was your guess.  How about 30%?  Well, you're getting closer, but you still have a long, long way to go.  How about 10%.  No, you're still too high.  No... I'm not kidding.  Try about 670 people.  That's a whopping 5.6% of gun show attendees are registered to vote.  Now, of those 670, an optimistic number of those who voted would probably range at about 50%.  That means of the 12,000 gun show attendees only about 335 probably voted.  Ok, that's being a little harsh.  I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that all 670 voted.  Somehow inflating the number won't make most feel all that much better about the whole thing. 

The problem is, there is no pro-gun vote in California.  John didn't get the pro-gun vote, but neither did anyone else!  It doesn't exist because the overwhelming majority of gun owners don't vote.  And the liberals know it and act upon it with impunity.  They don't fear California gun owners!  Why would they?  Gun owners certainly won't vote them out of office!

Are John Brantuk's results indicative of the rest of California?  Sure they are.  In fact, most professional pollsters use around 1000 people to achieve very accurate results.  John had 12,000 gun owners on a list and registered voting lists that simply don't lie.  This is pure data.  Not thoughts, not polls, not desires.  It's the real thing, and unfortunately it is fact!

The bottom line is gun owners could own California if they vote.  John Brantuk would be in the state assembly this very day protecting gun owner's rights along with dozens of other newly elected pro-gun legislators.  Instead, gun owners lament the demise of Second Amendment rights and take NO ACTION to resolve it.  Gun owners are the problem in California.  They're all bark and no bite. 

Gun owners avail themselves of the right to participate in freedom of speech on the net, but do nothing to preserve it.  They complain endlessly about erosion of Second Amendment rights, but do nothing to change it.  Gun owners claim they'll have to pry their guns from their 'cold dead hands' before allowing them to be confiscated.  But, gun owners don't vote because they're afraid to be on a government list?  California gun owners aren't scaring anyone with their bravado, least of all liberal politicians.  If gun owners can't demand their rights in the voting booth, it is easily assumed they'll fold like the paper tiger they're perceived to be when they come knocking for their guns. 

On the other hand, those who do vote deserve a medal because they're a rare breed of people.  Very rare as the numbers go.  They are so out of the mainstream they could almost be classified as a radical fringe group.  Those who don't vote deserve a bigger medal hung around they're neck and a short plank into the Pacific because that's all they're worth... fish food.

A lot of people think erroneously that California is hopeless because liberals outnumber conservatives.  It's clear gun owners outnumber themselves.  Gun owners are engaged in an act of self-flagellation.  They love victims and they are it.  They wallow in their own self-pity claiming this or that pro-gun group, Northern California liberals, or the Brady Bunch are their downfall. 

Here it is point blank.  There is no one else to blame.  'We have met the enemy and it is us.'  Only when gun owners finally take charge of their destiny will all this anti-gun nonsense come to an end.  Until then, hope and pray gun owners take action at the polls before they knock on your door demanding your firearms.  If California reaches that point, it's too late because most of you cannot be depended on to do anything.  You've already proven that.

John Brantuk is going to run again in 2004.  For the life of me, I can't imagine why he would waste his time if he can't count on gun owners to get him into office.  But John is a driven man with a vision of saving gun rights in California.  If you are inclined, there are few people in this state that deserve gun owner's support more than John.  Visit his site and donate.  Then register to vote online using the link below and start participating in the only process that will make a difference.  VOTE!

One final comment.  Can you imagine John's shock as he matched up gun show attendees to voter lists and recognized fellow gun owners in the community who "support" him, only to find the people who talk a good game aren't even registered to vote?  A lesser person would have thrown in the towel and called it quits.  Don't be a big mouth spouting about how no one in California is protecting your rights.  It starts with you.  If you can't do anything about it, don't expect your neighbors to do something.  They probably aren't voting either so it's up to you, the individual gun owner to make a difference.

Make your check or money order payable to "Brantuk For Assembly" and mail it to: 
        Brantuk For Assembly 
        P.O. Box 171 
        Whittier, CA 90608
Or donate online at:
www.BrantukForAssembly.org
(562) 698-2870 Phone
(562) 698-2810 Fax

Do something useful with your life and register, then vote!

Register to vote on-line

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To: Shooter 2.5
'I worked in a Union shop right here in Bush country and it's disgusting how many "gun" people vote their pocketbook. '

No, they're voting to take from other people's pocketbooks and rights.

"I hunt, but I don't see why you need an assault rifle"
21 posted on 05/11/2003 4:18:43 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: TheAngryClam
"I think people should keep this article in mind when they complain that they're going to sit out 2004."

I think Bush and the GOP should keep this article in mind too. A lot of us who are pointing out that Bush has no clothes when it comes to the Constitution and his oath to protect and defend it, are gunowners who do vote.

22 posted on 05/11/2003 4:21:22 PM PDT by Jesse
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To: Carry_Okie
I agree. As a CA resident...I don't hold out much hope for CA's near future. The populace voted for Davis Twice..go figure. For retirement Texas is looking better and better.

Red

23 posted on 05/11/2003 4:26:32 PM PDT by Conservative4Ever (life is but a dream...Sha Boom)
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To: Mr.B.goes.to.Washington; NewDestiny; rebuildus; Cortez; abigail2; HangFire; SixString; Mercuria; ...
March 3, 2003 -   It has been suspected for quite some time that gun owners were generally all mouth and no action.

But, we really didn't understand the gravity of the situation until we received an email from...

John Brantuk, 2002 candidate for the 56th Assembly District in Southern California.

...John is upset, and he has every right to be.

MERCURIA ping for FReeper "Mr.B.goes.to.Washington" !
See also, from www.brantukforassembly.org:


About John



John Walter Brantuk, Sr. was born September 11, 1950 in Montebello, California. He grew up in Whittier in the American family tradition. His father worked at a local truck body building company while his mother tended daily to the needs of John and his younger brother David and the family home. Upon graduation from high school, John was accepted to the University of California, Los Angeles. 

After college, John enlisted in the military and gave six years service to our nation. Trained as a Tank Commander in an Armored Cavalry troop, John continued to take on greater and greater responsibilities, attending Leadership schools and working his way up to Sergeant, Squadron Communications Section Leader, and finally Acting Squadron Commo Officer. John received an honorable discharge in 1976.  It was a very full experience...
CLICK HERE for more about Mr. B.

24 posted on 05/11/2003 5:20:18 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: BushIsALiberal
Sorry. A whole lot of us aren't about to vote for a RINO and make gun owners the GOP's "blacks," a group that can be taken for granted with zilch delivered like the liberals really do for blacks. If Bush wants reelected, he has to earn our votes.
GREAT attitude!!!
I am CERTAIN that President Sharpton appreciates your support, and will give you the federal Second Amendment policy that you deserve. < / sarcasm >

For ONCE, could we not allow the PERFECT to be the enemy of the GOOD?
25 posted on 05/11/2003 5:30:50 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: Swordmaker
What makes him think that all attendees at a gun show were residents of the areas he searched for voters?

Good observation. When I lived in San Diego, I traveled to Del Mar, Costa Mesa and Anaheim to attend Crossroads shows. Now that I'm in the Pocatello, Idaho area, I travel to Salt Lake City, Ogden and Logan, Utah. There are few shows in southeast Idaho. John's survey would only hold water if it could be constrained to the people who actually lived in his voting district. Those are the only people whose votes matter with respect to his candidacy.

26 posted on 05/11/2003 5:38:57 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Jesse
"I hunt, but I don't see why you need an assault rifle"

Nothing gores my ox more than for someone else to decide what I need. It's my money. I'll purchase what pleases me. Any weapon is an "assault weapon" if you use it to assault someone. Otherwise, it is just an inanimate object. If you hunt, you choose the right weapon for the specific game. A coyote hunter might choose a mini-14 or an AR-15 or a Savage Model 12BV in .223. Same ammo. Same varmint. The AR-15 and Savage bolt action are more consistent rifles...the mini-14 barrel heats up and "strings" the point of impact. Aside from the "mean looking" appearance of the AR-15, there is no appreciable difference in the rifles. Certainly none that merits banning by leftist politicians.

27 posted on 05/11/2003 5:54:50 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
Any weapon is an "assault weapon" if you use it to assault someone.
See also, from:

Man opens fire with machine gun at university; two injured
The Associated Press ^ | 5/9/03 5:10 PM | By M.R. KROPKO
Posted on 05/09/2003 2:59 PM PDT by demlosers

CLEVELAND (AP) -- A man opened fire with a machine gun Friday at the business school at Case Western Reserve University. At least two people were reported injured.

Witnesses said the gunman was firing indiscriminantly...

-- snip --
Graduate Nabbed in Case Western Shooting
By TOM WITHERS

CLEVELAND - The 62-year-old man accused of a shooting spree at a prestigious Cleveland university had military training with the Indian army and a grudge against an employee, authorities said Saturday.

Biswanath Halder, armed with two handguns...

-- snip --

He had a Cobray pistol, a Ruger pistol and 11 ammunition clips...

CLICK HERE for the rest of that thread

28 posted on 05/11/2003 6:14:42 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
The Cobray pistol is a semi-automatic that looks like a machine gun. It falls in the same category as the POS Intratec TEC-9. Fat, heavy and inaccurate. If you bring one of these guns along, you can't help but be indiscriminate in your selection of targets. That said, the firearms did not shoot themselves. They did not transport themselves to the crime seen. Bizzy Halder provided the criminal animation to this inanimate object. A Cobray M11 is pictured below.

29 posted on 05/11/2003 6:30:01 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin
Oh.
Thank you for posting that image.
I was attempting to show the anti-gun bias in the Associated Press accounts of this event as their "machine gun" morphed - first into a "high-powered rifle" - and then into "two hand guns."
The menacing appearance of the "hand gun" used by this psycho is unfortunate for those who support the Second Amendment, as it may make killing the "Assault Weapons Ban" more difficult. :(

30 posted on 05/11/2003 9:31:34 PM PDT by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Bump
31 posted on 05/11/2003 9:45:58 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
John took a look at a list of people that regularly attended gun shows in his district. He compared the attendee list to voter registration lists to determine how many of the 12,000 gun show attendees were registered to vote.

Just wondering, where did he get a list of people who attended gun shows? I've never been forced to give a name and address to go to one. I would be concerned if I was.

32 posted on 05/11/2003 10:49:49 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Hugin
Also remember that gun show attendees (and exhibiters) are often from outside of the district. Oh, and my daughter and I attended. She is 5. At the time, I had not yet registered to vote, having moved to CA from Texas.

Wow, the good news is they don't have barbed wire at the border yet, I think I can make it back.
33 posted on 05/11/2003 11:23:30 PM PDT by donmeaker (Time is Relative, at least in my family.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This is like blaming the rape victim for being raped.
35 posted on 05/23/2003 8:15:42 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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