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Gun Rights on a Roll:Republican Congress Unlikely to Renew Clinton Weapons Ban
Human Events ^ | Week of May 12, 2003 | David Freddoso

Posted on 05/09/2003 10:15:16 AM PDT by Remedy

Thanks to conservative gains in the 2002 elections, and increasing Democratic reluctance to embrace gun control, gun rights have made significant advances on the state and federal levels over the last two months.

In addition to House passage last month of a bill immunizing gun manufacturers from lawsuits based on criminal misuse of their products (see Human Events rollcall, May 5), several states have passed similar bills or are working on them in their legislatures. Meanwhile, five states have passed laws this year making it easier to carry concealed weapons, and three others have taken legislative steps toward gun rights legislation (see map, page 8).

Of even more concern to gun owners, though—and perhaps more critical to the outcome of the 2004 election—is the looming fight over the federal ban on so-called "assault weapons." Despite President Bush’s recent promise to sign an extension of the ban, 2nd Amendment activists are confident it will die in September 2004, when it automatically sunsets.

Cosmetic Gun Ban

The ban, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.) in 1994, was given a ten-year expiration date as part of a compromise to secure the votes needed for passage. As a part of President Clinton’s signature "crime bill," the law banned specific guns not because they were more dangerous than other guns, but because they had cosmetic features characteristic of military weapons.

For example, a bayonet mount and a protruding pistol grip are enough under the law to classify a rifle as an "assault weapon" if it accepts detachable magazines. The rules for classifying pistols as "assault weapons" are similarly cosmetic.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer confirmed for Human Events last Wednesday that Bush would sign a bill extending the gun ban. "That is the President’s position, and the stand that he took in the 2000 campaign," said Fleischer.

But Chuck Cunningham, the National Rifle Association’s director of federal affairs, said that a bill renewing "the Clinton gun ban" will not get anywhere near Bush’s pen.

"The difference would be that there’s no Clinton, there’s a Republican President, and the Republicans control both houses of Congress," said Cunningham. "That on its face should be proof of what an uphill battle the other side has."

"I think we’ll have the votes to stop it from being re-enacted or expanded," he said. He also pointed out that the fight on this issue, like federal legislation in 1999 to regulate gun shows out of business, will help strengthen the NRA at the grassroots "by providing a dragon to slay."

NRA board member Grover Norquist agreed.

"The people who remember how people vote on gun control are the people who hate gun control," said Norquist. "It will remind people that it matters who is in the House and Senate, and it will energize our base."

Other activists and congressional sources agreed that a bill to renew the gun ban would be dead on arrival in the House, and maybe in the Senate.

Meanwhile, Democrats on the both the federal and state level are going out of their way to distance themselves from the gun control lobby.

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean—an unabashed liberal on most issues—has made a point in his presidential campaign of his support for gun rights, citing this as evidence he is moderate enough to win a general election.

Rep. Harold Ford (D.-Tenn.), a rising Democratic star, was among 63 Democrats who voted for the NRA-backed bill immunizing gun manufacturers against lawsuits. "I’ve come around to the point that [I believe] you can’t go regulating a legal enterprise out of business," Ford told Human Events. Ford did not forget to point out that he is an avid hunter.

In the Senate, the same bill is co-sponsored by Minority Whip Harry Reid (D.-Nev.), Blanche Lincoln (D.-Ark.) and Byron Dorgan (D.-N.D.), who all face re-election this cycle. Even more surprising is the list of Democrats who have not declared either way on the bill. It includes stalwart liberals such as Pat Leahy (D.-Vt.), Jim Jeffords (I.-Vt.) and even Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D.-S.D.).

Eric Howard, spokesman for the pro-gun-control Brady Campaign, would not comment on rumors that Daschle has warned his group not to expect his support when the bill comes up for a vote. Daschle will very probably face a competitive re-election battle next year against former Republican Rep. John Thune.

Political Momentum

Governors in Minnesota, Colorado and New Mexico have all signed laws this year requiring local authorities to issue concealed weapons permits to any sane, law-abiding citizen who applies (see chart). These laws bar local authorities from maintaining de facto gun bans by arbitrarily refusing to issue permits. Democratic Gov. Mark Warner of Virginia also signed a bill pre-empting all local gun control laws.

One or both houses of the state legislatures of Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio have already passed bills making it easier for more people to carry concealed weapons, and New Hampshire, Nevada and Wisconsin are expected to act soon on bills that will ban lawsuits against gun makers in state court.

On the other side of the issue, only one state—Illinois—is expected to pass major anti-gun legislation this term.

Howard tried to put a good face on the Democratic defections. "I don’t think it’s fair to say that everybody’s running from this issue," he said.

Rep. Danny Davis (D.-Ill.), a liberal gun-control champion, was more blunt. "I think that Democrats—or if you want to say people who are thought of as more progressive—have allowed themselves to be out-worked, out-strategized," he said.

Indeed, Republican congressional sources say conservatives can only benefit politically from more votes on gun issues this term.

"The 2nd Amendment is just such a powerful issue," said one House aide. "It’s a great time for it."

Rep. Jeff Flake (R.-Ariz.), a leader on gun rights issues, outlined the dilemma of gun control advocates in keeping Democrats on the reservation. "In 2002, you had the Dingell race," he said, referring to the primary between Democratic Michigan Representatives John Dingell, who supported gun rights, and Lynn Rivers, who did not. Dingell won by an 18-point margin.

"Dingell ran on it and did well, and in a Democratic primary," said Flake. "There’s been a realization on the part of the Democrats that they’re not getting the traction here that they thought they did before, or that they perhaps did before."


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To: Blood of Tyrants

Bush's remarks were made because he believed he would never have to sign the AW extension. It was a political promise made to soccer moms that he was sure he wouldn't have to deliver on.

I was hoping that this was purely a political calculation - an effort to push the gun-grabbers into open political advocacy, just in time to lose them a bunch of elections. But Rove's attitude in New Hampshire the other day makes me question it.

I still didn't like it.

Me, either. I hate to think that Rove can be as stupid about this as he is apparently being.

He can gain nothing by this.

41 posted on 05/09/2003 11:20:18 AM PDT by jdege
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To: Dead Corpse
Too many RINO's, too few serious conservatives in the House and Senate. Election year coming up. I, for one, am not at all confident those mental retards sitting in Congress WON'T pass this.

Like you I think that there is a good chance that it will pass. Welcome to the land of the previously free.

43 posted on 05/09/2003 11:20:40 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Cindy Foxx
How can you apply the second amendment to assault weapons?

Did you get lost on your way to DU? It's over there on the left (way on the left).

44 posted on 05/09/2003 11:22:14 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Remedy
A spokesman for the administration stated flatly that the President "supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

Either Bush lied to gain moderate liberal votes or he really would sign another AWB?

45 posted on 05/09/2003 11:24:13 AM PDT by thepitts (Hell hath no fury like vested interest masquerading as a moral principle!!)
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To: Cindy Foxx
How can you apply the second amendment to assault weapons? These things are good for no other purpose than mass murder.

I imagine you'll be more at home at the VPC website. Just be sure to check your brain at the door (as if you'd miss it).

Gun control is needed to protect republicans as well as democrats. We should all work together to make our world a safer place!

Yeah, it worked SO GOOD in England. No, wait, violent crime there has soared since they eliminated gun ownership and the right to defend yourself.

46 posted on 05/09/2003 11:25:02 AM PDT by dirtboy (words in tagline are closer than they appear...)
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To: Richard-SIA
Centrist politics wins elections. The country is pretty much divided into thirds, there's our third the liberal third and the swing voeters in the middle.

Sorry you had unreasonable expectations. Maybe you should have actually listened to what Bush said, he didn't promise to be hard right and undo 8 years of Clinton or even 40 years of Democratic control of Congress. he promised to be moral and just and lead with compassion.

You should also go back and reread the Constitution, he's President not Emperor. Presidents don't get to walk into office and make sweeping changes, they get to walk into office and try to convince Congressmen to propose and support their changes on the floor. None of what you wanted Bush to do can be done by the President.
47 posted on 05/09/2003 11:25:03 AM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: Cindy Foxx
These things are good for no other purpose than mass murder.

Hey, come on now! Everyone has their hobbies. For me, it mass murder and biting the heads off of live puppies. I'd say kittens... but I don't want the Viking kittens paying me a visit like they will for you...

48 posted on 05/09/2003 11:25:40 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Cindy Foxx
How can you be so damned stupid?

The Second Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances where all other rights have failed, where the government refuses to stand for re-election and silences those who protest, where courts have lost the courage to oppose, or can find no one to enforce their decrees.
49 posted on 05/09/2003 11:25:57 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: heckler
Hot damn -- that's what I'm after when we see the 1994 AW ban fade into the "sunset"!

I discussed this with the HK guys at the SHOT Show in February and the NRA convention last month -- "Are goodies like the G36 (not the mutated SL-8) going to be made to us peons by HK if that damned law does away"?

The wouldn't commit to anything, but their expressions and knowing looks at one another indicated that HK would be happy to.


50 posted on 05/09/2003 11:27:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com; Dead Corpse; Cindy Foxx
Hmm started today, and no responses yet to an obvious attempt to go liberal. I smell something and it smells like a troll.
51 posted on 05/09/2003 11:29:44 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Wright is right!
Yep. Rope-a-dope wins again.

If you go to DU, there are many one issue voters there, and that issue is guns.

If Dems are forced to vote gun-grabbing vs. 2nd Amendment, and have it recorded, there would be three votes - Feinstein, Schumer, and Clinton.

Byrd can't even afford to vote for gun control. After 9/11, there are oodles of new gun owners in this country, and they all aren't men who hunt.
52 posted on 05/09/2003 11:30:16 AM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Cindy Foxx
"These things are good for no other purpose than mass murder."

Tell that to the Koreans who used rifles of this sort to successfully defend their shops from the building-burners in L.A. during the 1992 Rodney King riots, after the local police told them flat out, "We can't help you -- you're on your own".

You have bought the BS, Cindy. It's not too late to get a refund.


53 posted on 05/09/2003 11:30:34 AM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Cindy Foxx
Assault weapons are lightweight, durable, and reliable.

That makes them a good choice for a good many things.

Many of the most popular rifles in American history were functionally equivalent to assault weapons like the SKS and the AR-15, to include the Winchester 30-30 and the M1 Carbine.

But considered purely as weapons of war, it is exactly those weapons of war that are most clearly protected by the Second Amendment.

The point is to have an armed populace, capable of defense of self and community - the Second Amendment isn't about duck hunting.

54 posted on 05/09/2003 11:31:41 AM PDT by jdege
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To: Cindy Foxx

"Good-bye... Mr. Anderson"

55 posted on 05/09/2003 11:32:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Joe Brower
I cant wait!!!

I've seriously considered selling my pre-ban AR-15 now in hopes that I can buy the same thing for a lot less in 2 years, but I'm not in that much of a betting mood right now.
56 posted on 05/09/2003 11:33:00 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses)
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To: heckler
Your own? Nice piece, an SBR I presume.
57 posted on 05/09/2003 11:34:47 AM PDT by templar
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To: Poohbah
"And Dubya's remark is going to energize the RKBA community to ensure that the renewal never clears Congress."

Precisely. If we can't get one Senator to filibuster this bill, or if we can't stop this from ever passing in the House, then why should we blame Bush for keeping his 2000 campaign promise?!

It's up to us to stop this from passing Congress.

In the meantime, Bush has just made it that much more difficult for Democrats to claim that he is a far right radical, and by so doing, Bush makes it that much more likely for Republicans to win a super-majority in the Senate in 2004.

58 posted on 05/09/2003 11:36:10 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Bush's remarks were made because he believed he would never have to sign the AW extension. It was a political promise made to soccer moms that he was sure he wouldn't have to deliver on.

I've seen this repeated around the 'net, but with no source to back it up.

So what do we do when Congress delivers that bill to his desk?

59 posted on 05/09/2003 11:37:34 AM PDT by cruiserman
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To: templar
Just a dream, if I were still single I'd consider going through the paper work and anal exam required to get one. Maybe I'll win the lottery or some certain stock will go through the roof, but until then, just a sweet dream.

HK G36C.
60 posted on 05/09/2003 11:39:01 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses)
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