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Gun Rights on a Roll:Republican Congress Unlikely to Renew Clinton Weapons Ban
Human Events ^ | Week of May 12, 2003 | David Freddoso

Posted on 05/09/2003 10:15:16 AM PDT by Remedy

Thanks to conservative gains in the 2002 elections, and increasing Democratic reluctance to embrace gun control, gun rights have made significant advances on the state and federal levels over the last two months.

In addition to House passage last month of a bill immunizing gun manufacturers from lawsuits based on criminal misuse of their products (see Human Events rollcall, May 5), several states have passed similar bills or are working on them in their legislatures. Meanwhile, five states have passed laws this year making it easier to carry concealed weapons, and three others have taken legislative steps toward gun rights legislation (see map, page 8).

Of even more concern to gun owners, though—and perhaps more critical to the outcome of the 2004 election—is the looming fight over the federal ban on so-called "assault weapons." Despite President Bush’s recent promise to sign an extension of the ban, 2nd Amendment activists are confident it will die in September 2004, when it automatically sunsets.

Cosmetic Gun Ban

The ban, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.) in 1994, was given a ten-year expiration date as part of a compromise to secure the votes needed for passage. As a part of President Clinton’s signature "crime bill," the law banned specific guns not because they were more dangerous than other guns, but because they had cosmetic features characteristic of military weapons.

For example, a bayonet mount and a protruding pistol grip are enough under the law to classify a rifle as an "assault weapon" if it accepts detachable magazines. The rules for classifying pistols as "assault weapons" are similarly cosmetic.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer confirmed for Human Events last Wednesday that Bush would sign a bill extending the gun ban. "That is the President’s position, and the stand that he took in the 2000 campaign," said Fleischer.

But Chuck Cunningham, the National Rifle Association’s director of federal affairs, said that a bill renewing "the Clinton gun ban" will not get anywhere near Bush’s pen.

"The difference would be that there’s no Clinton, there’s a Republican President, and the Republicans control both houses of Congress," said Cunningham. "That on its face should be proof of what an uphill battle the other side has."

"I think we’ll have the votes to stop it from being re-enacted or expanded," he said. He also pointed out that the fight on this issue, like federal legislation in 1999 to regulate gun shows out of business, will help strengthen the NRA at the grassroots "by providing a dragon to slay."

NRA board member Grover Norquist agreed.

"The people who remember how people vote on gun control are the people who hate gun control," said Norquist. "It will remind people that it matters who is in the House and Senate, and it will energize our base."

Other activists and congressional sources agreed that a bill to renew the gun ban would be dead on arrival in the House, and maybe in the Senate.

Meanwhile, Democrats on the both the federal and state level are going out of their way to distance themselves from the gun control lobby.

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean—an unabashed liberal on most issues—has made a point in his presidential campaign of his support for gun rights, citing this as evidence he is moderate enough to win a general election.

Rep. Harold Ford (D.-Tenn.), a rising Democratic star, was among 63 Democrats who voted for the NRA-backed bill immunizing gun manufacturers against lawsuits. "I’ve come around to the point that [I believe] you can’t go regulating a legal enterprise out of business," Ford told Human Events. Ford did not forget to point out that he is an avid hunter.

In the Senate, the same bill is co-sponsored by Minority Whip Harry Reid (D.-Nev.), Blanche Lincoln (D.-Ark.) and Byron Dorgan (D.-N.D.), who all face re-election this cycle. Even more surprising is the list of Democrats who have not declared either way on the bill. It includes stalwart liberals such as Pat Leahy (D.-Vt.), Jim Jeffords (I.-Vt.) and even Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D.-S.D.).

Eric Howard, spokesman for the pro-gun-control Brady Campaign, would not comment on rumors that Daschle has warned his group not to expect his support when the bill comes up for a vote. Daschle will very probably face a competitive re-election battle next year against former Republican Rep. John Thune.

Political Momentum

Governors in Minnesota, Colorado and New Mexico have all signed laws this year requiring local authorities to issue concealed weapons permits to any sane, law-abiding citizen who applies (see chart). These laws bar local authorities from maintaining de facto gun bans by arbitrarily refusing to issue permits. Democratic Gov. Mark Warner of Virginia also signed a bill pre-empting all local gun control laws.

One or both houses of the state legislatures of Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio have already passed bills making it easier for more people to carry concealed weapons, and New Hampshire, Nevada and Wisconsin are expected to act soon on bills that will ban lawsuits against gun makers in state court.

On the other side of the issue, only one state—Illinois—is expected to pass major anti-gun legislation this term.

Howard tried to put a good face on the Democratic defections. "I don’t think it’s fair to say that everybody’s running from this issue," he said.

Rep. Danny Davis (D.-Ill.), a liberal gun-control champion, was more blunt. "I think that Democrats—or if you want to say people who are thought of as more progressive—have allowed themselves to be out-worked, out-strategized," he said.

Indeed, Republican congressional sources say conservatives can only benefit politically from more votes on gun issues this term.

"The 2nd Amendment is just such a powerful issue," said one House aide. "It’s a great time for it."

Rep. Jeff Flake (R.-Ariz.), a leader on gun rights issues, outlined the dilemma of gun control advocates in keeping Democrats on the reservation. "In 2002, you had the Dingell race," he said, referring to the primary between Democratic Michigan Representatives John Dingell, who supported gun rights, and Lynn Rivers, who did not. Dingell won by an 18-point margin.

"Dingell ran on it and did well, and in a Democratic primary," said Flake. "There’s been a realization on the part of the Democrats that they’re not getting the traction here that they thought they did before, or that they perhaps did before."


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Feinstein will oppose Bush nominee to 9th Circuit Court of Appeal Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., said she will oppose President Bush's nominee to a key federal appellate court Thursday when the Senate Judiciary Committee votes on her nomination. Feinstein, who is expected to cast a decisive vote, had not taken a stance on the nomination of Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Carolyn Kuhl until late Wednesday afternoon. Her decision makes it more likely that Democrats on the committee would unite against Kuhl.

9th Circuit: No Right to Bear Arms U.S. Court in Calif. Stands by Gun Ruling

A majority of the active judges on the 9th Circuit must vote to rehear a case for it to be considered "en ban," or by the entire court. In this case, a majority of the 28-seat court refused that hearing while five dissented.

The five judges said the three-member panel's interpretation of the 2nd Amendment was flawed. In one blistering dissent, Judge Alex Kozinski said his colleagues had refused to consider the matter because they were simply "none too keen" on a constitutional guarantee to bear arms.

Kozinski said the majority of the court had reached their decision by ignoring U.S. Supreme Court precedent.

"The majority falls prey to the delusion -- popular in some circles -- that ordinary people are too careless and stupid to own guns and we would be far better off leaving all weapons in the hands of professionals on the government payroll," he said.

The famously liberal 9th Circuit infuriated Americans last year by declaring the Pledge of Allegiance unconstitutional, a ruling that is also headed for the Supreme Court for review.

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Assault Weapons and Assaults on the Constitution

The Bush administration recently surprised and angered many pro-gun conservatives by announcing its support for an assault weapons ban passed in 1994. The law contained a ten-year sunset provision, and is set to expire in 2004 unless reauthorized by Congress. A spokesman for the administration stated flatly that the President "supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

Perhaps this should have surprised no one. President Bush already stated his support for the ban during the 2000 campaign. The irony is that he did so even as the Democratic Party was abandoning gun control as a losing issue. In fact, many attribute Gore’s loss to his lack of support among gun owners. The events of September 11th also dealt a serious blow to the gun control movement, as millions of Americans realized they could not rely on government to protect them against terrorism. Gun sales have predictably increased.

Given this trend in the American electorate away from support for gun control, the administration’s position may well cost votes in 2004. The mistaken political premise is that while Republicans generally support gun rights, so-called "assault weapons" are different and must be controlled. The administration clearly believes that moderate voters from both parties support the ban. "Who could possibly need such weapons?" is the standard question posed by gun control advocates.

Few people asking that question, however, know much about the banned weapons or the Second amendment itself. The law in question bans many very ordinary types of rifles and ammunition, while limiting magazine capacity for both rifles and pistols that are still legal. Many of the vilified "assault rifles" outlawed by the ban are in fact sporting rifles that are no longer available to hunters and outdoorsmen. Of course true military-style automatic rifles remain widely available to criminals on the black market. So practically speaking, the assault weapons ban does nothing to make us safer.

More importantly, however, the debate about certain types of weapons ignores the fundamental purpose of the Second amendment. The Second amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny. The Founders knew that unarmed citizens would never be able to overthrow a tyrannical government as they did. They envisioned government as a servant, not a master, of the American people. The muskets they used against the British Army were the assault rifles of the time. It is practical, rather than alarmist, to understand that unarmed citizens cannot be secure in their freedoms. It’s convenient for gun banners to dismiss this argument by saying "That could never happen here, this is America"- but history shows that only vigilant people can keep government under control. By banning certain weapons today, we may plant the seeds for tyranny to flourish ten, thirty, or fifty years from now.

Tortured interpretations of the Second amendment cannot change the fact that both the letter of the amendment itself and the legislative history conclusively show that the Founders intended ordinary citizens to be armed. The notion that the Second amendment confers rights only upon organized state-run militias is preposterous; the amendment is meaningless unless it protects the gun rights of individuals. Georgetown University professor Robert Levy recently offered this simple explanation:

"Suppose the Second amendment said ‘A well-educated electorate being necessary for self-governance in a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed.’ Is there anyone who would suggest that means only registered voters have a right to read?"

1 posted on 05/09/2003 10:15:16 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
The major mainscream media are finally catching on to what's happening to this bill. It's finally dawning on them that President Dubya said he would sign a bill that has no chance of clearing Congress - and the trap they THOUGHT had been laid for him politically is really a non-issue. The media hate it when Dubya outsmarts them...again.

Michael

2 posted on 05/09/2003 10:20:02 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: Wright is right!
And Dubya's remark is going to energize the RKBA community to ensure that the renewal never clears Congress.
3 posted on 05/09/2003 10:22:12 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: *bang_list; AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; harpseal; Shooter 2.5; ...

4 posted on 05/09/2003 10:27:00 AM PDT by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Joe Brower; Remedy
Oh please, please be true!
5 posted on 05/09/2003 10:29:05 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Dead Corpse
White House spokesman Ari Fleischer confirmed for Human Events last Wednesday that Bush would sign a bill extending the gun ban. "That is the President’s position, and the stand that he took in the 2000 campaign," said Fleischer.

You said that you wanted a more positive indication that it came from the man himself? Looks like it to me.

6 posted on 05/09/2003 10:31:54 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Poohbah
Bush's remarks were made because he believed he would never have to sign the AW extension. It was a political promise made to soccer moms that he was sure he wouldn't have to deliver on.

I still didn't like it.
7 posted on 05/09/2003 10:32:16 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Remedy
PTL and pass the ammo!
8 posted on 05/09/2003 10:32:30 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
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To: Poohbah
Exactly. People are getting riled for absolutely nothing. When the law sunsets (in 15 months) and we can all go out and buy recently manufactured hi-cap mags and rifles with lug nuts, everyone will calm down.
9 posted on 05/09/2003 10:33:36 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
There are some people who prefer President Hillary to actually getting what they want.
10 posted on 05/09/2003 10:34:23 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If this turns out to be true -- if this is how it plays out -- then your way worked, Jim Robinson.

Then I will have to suck it up and go your route: RINO or not, vote Republican.

Let's see how it plays out. I'm not a believer yet.

11 posted on 05/09/2003 10:35:46 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WMD-40: Lube your nukes)
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To: Joe Brower
Keeping my fingers crossed.
(My rep is beholden to soccer moms.)
12 posted on 05/09/2003 10:36:19 AM PDT by Tauzero
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To: Mr. Mojo
and we can all go out and buy recently manufactured hi-cap mags and rifles with lug nuts

Lug nuts? Only if they're chrome, man. ;-)

13 posted on 05/09/2003 10:36:34 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"It was a political promise made to soccer moms that he was sure he wouldn't have to deliver on. "

"Poltical promise" eh?

Nice euphemism for a lie.
14 posted on 05/09/2003 10:38:08 AM PDT by Tauzero
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Good you shouldn't like it. It's politics and it's nasty. But it's a necessary game for a president to play. It allows him to take a more centrist position (good or getting re-election) and keeps a campaign stance (supporting existing gun laws) and hopefully not annoy the base too much (I know there's lots of squaking now but I don't think it's going to carry 18 months from now). It's a variation of the same trick he pulled with CFR, by signing he took the issue off the table, nobody can bitch about it anymore and insist something get done; meanwhile by the time the courts are done with CFR the only thing that will be left is the part that increased the maximum donation which helps the GOP a lot more than it helps the Dems.

Politics is a nasty game, nastier when played by somebody that actually knows how to do it.
15 posted on 05/09/2003 10:38:23 AM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: Poohbah
"There are some people who prefer President Hillary to actually getting what they want."

Then there are some people who prefer not to say false things, regardless of the outcome.
16 posted on 05/09/2003 10:40:18 AM PDT by Tauzero
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To: facedown

that a bill to renew the gun ban would be dead on arrival in the House

NO SPECULATION / FORECAST - JUST FACT!

17 posted on 05/09/2003 10:42:03 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Joe Brower

18 posted on 05/09/2003 10:42:50 AM PDT by heckler (wiskey for my men, beer for my horses)
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To: Lazamataz
Honestly Laz ....did you really believe that the renewal had a chance of making off the floor of the conservative-dominated House and onto Bush's desk?
19 posted on 05/09/2003 10:43:30 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: RogueIsland
LOL!....I meant "bayonet lug", of course.
20 posted on 05/09/2003 10:45:49 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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