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Gun Rights on a Roll:Republican Congress Unlikely to Renew Clinton Weapons Ban
Human Events ^ | Week of May 12, 2003 | David Freddoso

Posted on 05/09/2003 10:15:16 AM PDT by Remedy

Thanks to conservative gains in the 2002 elections, and increasing Democratic reluctance to embrace gun control, gun rights have made significant advances on the state and federal levels over the last two months.

In addition to House passage last month of a bill immunizing gun manufacturers from lawsuits based on criminal misuse of their products (see Human Events rollcall, May 5), several states have passed similar bills or are working on them in their legislatures. Meanwhile, five states have passed laws this year making it easier to carry concealed weapons, and three others have taken legislative steps toward gun rights legislation (see map, page 8).

Of even more concern to gun owners, though—and perhaps more critical to the outcome of the 2004 election—is the looming fight over the federal ban on so-called "assault weapons." Despite President Bush’s recent promise to sign an extension of the ban, 2nd Amendment activists are confident it will die in September 2004, when it automatically sunsets.

Cosmetic Gun Ban

The ban, sponsored by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.) in 1994, was given a ten-year expiration date as part of a compromise to secure the votes needed for passage. As a part of President Clinton’s signature "crime bill," the law banned specific guns not because they were more dangerous than other guns, but because they had cosmetic features characteristic of military weapons.

For example, a bayonet mount and a protruding pistol grip are enough under the law to classify a rifle as an "assault weapon" if it accepts detachable magazines. The rules for classifying pistols as "assault weapons" are similarly cosmetic.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer confirmed for Human Events last Wednesday that Bush would sign a bill extending the gun ban. "That is the President’s position, and the stand that he took in the 2000 campaign," said Fleischer.

But Chuck Cunningham, the National Rifle Association’s director of federal affairs, said that a bill renewing "the Clinton gun ban" will not get anywhere near Bush’s pen.

"The difference would be that there’s no Clinton, there’s a Republican President, and the Republicans control both houses of Congress," said Cunningham. "That on its face should be proof of what an uphill battle the other side has."

"I think we’ll have the votes to stop it from being re-enacted or expanded," he said. He also pointed out that the fight on this issue, like federal legislation in 1999 to regulate gun shows out of business, will help strengthen the NRA at the grassroots "by providing a dragon to slay."

NRA board member Grover Norquist agreed.

"The people who remember how people vote on gun control are the people who hate gun control," said Norquist. "It will remind people that it matters who is in the House and Senate, and it will energize our base."

Other activists and congressional sources agreed that a bill to renew the gun ban would be dead on arrival in the House, and maybe in the Senate.

Meanwhile, Democrats on the both the federal and state level are going out of their way to distance themselves from the gun control lobby.

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean—an unabashed liberal on most issues—has made a point in his presidential campaign of his support for gun rights, citing this as evidence he is moderate enough to win a general election.

Rep. Harold Ford (D.-Tenn.), a rising Democratic star, was among 63 Democrats who voted for the NRA-backed bill immunizing gun manufacturers against lawsuits. "I’ve come around to the point that [I believe] you can’t go regulating a legal enterprise out of business," Ford told Human Events. Ford did not forget to point out that he is an avid hunter.

In the Senate, the same bill is co-sponsored by Minority Whip Harry Reid (D.-Nev.), Blanche Lincoln (D.-Ark.) and Byron Dorgan (D.-N.D.), who all face re-election this cycle. Even more surprising is the list of Democrats who have not declared either way on the bill. It includes stalwart liberals such as Pat Leahy (D.-Vt.), Jim Jeffords (I.-Vt.) and even Minority Leader Tom Daschle (D.-S.D.).

Eric Howard, spokesman for the pro-gun-control Brady Campaign, would not comment on rumors that Daschle has warned his group not to expect his support when the bill comes up for a vote. Daschle will very probably face a competitive re-election battle next year against former Republican Rep. John Thune.

Political Momentum

Governors in Minnesota, Colorado and New Mexico have all signed laws this year requiring local authorities to issue concealed weapons permits to any sane, law-abiding citizen who applies (see chart). These laws bar local authorities from maintaining de facto gun bans by arbitrarily refusing to issue permits. Democratic Gov. Mark Warner of Virginia also signed a bill pre-empting all local gun control laws.

One or both houses of the state legislatures of Missouri, North Carolina and Ohio have already passed bills making it easier for more people to carry concealed weapons, and New Hampshire, Nevada and Wisconsin are expected to act soon on bills that will ban lawsuits against gun makers in state court.

On the other side of the issue, only one state—Illinois—is expected to pass major anti-gun legislation this term.

Howard tried to put a good face on the Democratic defections. "I don’t think it’s fair to say that everybody’s running from this issue," he said.

Rep. Danny Davis (D.-Ill.), a liberal gun-control champion, was more blunt. "I think that Democrats—or if you want to say people who are thought of as more progressive—have allowed themselves to be out-worked, out-strategized," he said.

Indeed, Republican congressional sources say conservatives can only benefit politically from more votes on gun issues this term.

"The 2nd Amendment is just such a powerful issue," said one House aide. "It’s a great time for it."

Rep. Jeff Flake (R.-Ariz.), a leader on gun rights issues, outlined the dilemma of gun control advocates in keeping Democrats on the reservation. "In 2002, you had the Dingell race," he said, referring to the primary between Democratic Michigan Representatives John Dingell, who supported gun rights, and Lynn Rivers, who did not. Dingell won by an 18-point margin.

"Dingell ran on it and did well, and in a Democratic primary," said Flake. "There’s been a realization on the part of the Democrats that they’re not getting the traction here that they thought they did before, or that they perhaps did before."


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To: Mr. Mojo
Honestly Laz ....did you really believe that the renewal had a chance of making off the floor of the conservative-dominated House and onto Bush's desk?

When it comes to Republicans caving in to every gun ban that comes around, I am no longer capable of being surprised.

21 posted on 05/09/2003 10:47:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WMD-40: Lube your nukes)
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To: heckler
Ohhh, baaaby.
22 posted on 05/09/2003 10:47:42 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Tauzero
What's false about it? Do you think he wouldn't sign it if the Dems found a way to pass it? He didn't promise to force Congress to pass it, he just said he'd sign it if it got to his desk.
23 posted on 05/09/2003 10:49:21 AM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: Joe Whitey
Bush lied, one way or another

My understanding is that he is on record during the election as saying he would sign a renewal. So the man seems to have been honest, even if he was Constitutionally wrong.

25 posted on 05/09/2003 10:54:37 AM PDT by RogueIsland
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To: Joe Whitey
Right now, we only know one thing for sure. Bush lied, one way or another. He lied to those who supported him, or he lied to "soccer moms". In one scenario, he betrayed those who elected him.

Really? How? He said he'd sign the damned thing if it ever reached his desk. How is that lying? He also made it clear during the campaign that he supports all existing gun laws, and the '94 so-called AWB is one of those laws. Despite this, YOU (and I) voted for him anyway. So in effect, he lied to neither the anti-gun soccer moms OR gun owners.

26 posted on 05/09/2003 10:55:42 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: discostu
I know there's lots of squaking now but I don't think it's going to carry 18 months from now.

As long as the AW ban renewal doesn't hit his desk there will most likely be no political price to pay to speak of.

It's a variation of the same trick he pulled with CFR, by signing he took the issue off the table, nobody can bitch about it anymore and insist something get done

Signing the CFR into law was a political mistake IMO. What people forget is that he had the option of allowing to to become law without his signature and take a neutral position. He could have publically stated his opposition and beliefs that the law was unconstitutional and in the same speech declared that he was not going to obstruct the will of the Congress and allow it to come to law without his signature. Effectively washing his hands of the whole matter. Instead he chose to make a few people happy while ticking off many times more than that.

27 posted on 05/09/2003 10:56:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Wright is right!
I sure hope Wright is Right is right.
29 posted on 05/09/2003 11:01:27 AM PDT by wardaddy (My dog turned to me and he said " Let's head back to Tennessee Jed!")
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To: Blood of Tyrants
And with the AW grandfathering out 3 months before the election it should (assuming the Dems don't pull of a miracle) actually help him gain Congressional numbers.

Refusing to sign and forcing Congress to override him would have been bad. Remember this was before the unprecedented 02 gains when they Dems were still trying to sell that he didn't represent the will of the people and was standing against the majority in his methods and values. Nothing quite stands against the majority like forcing Congress to override your butt. Same thing with the infamous farm bill. If it happened all over again now he could afford to make a stand, but then it would have just played into the opposition's hand.
30 posted on 05/09/2003 11:01:38 AM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: Joe Whitey
Fair enough. But you still haven't proved your (false) assertion that he lied.
31 posted on 05/09/2003 11:02:06 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Remedy
Meanwhile, five states have passed laws this year making it easier to carry concealed weapons

Minnesota, New Mexico, and Colorado - that makes three. Who else?

32 posted on 05/09/2003 11:03:09 AM PDT by freedomcrusader
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To: Wright is right!
All I can say is that if Bush does see it get to his desk and he signs it, I won't vote for him in the 2004 election. At that point, might as well let the dims get the presidency. Then they can deal with the revolution that is sure to come.

Mike

35 posted on 05/09/2003 11:11:57 AM PDT by BCR #226
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To: from occupied ga
You said that you wanted a more positive indication that it came from the man himself?

Yep. From Ari, that's pretty tight.

Too many RINO's, too few serious conservatives in the House and Senate. Election year coming up. I, for one, am not at all confident those mental retards sitting in Congress WON'T pass this. It will definately be a clsoe thing with the Dim's voting en bloc for it. Bush seems to be a man of his word... if this makes it to his desk...

Too many if's, and's, and but's. It's a bad deal and gettin' worse.

36 posted on 05/09/2003 11:13:08 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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To: Remedy
My Prediction: It won't be voted on in both houses of Congress before the election. Republicans control what bills make it to the floor and they know that this will hurt them in the 2004 elections regardless of what they do. Demoncrats know that regardless of what happens if it hits the floor, it will help them. Better for Republicans to let it die.
37 posted on 05/09/2003 11:15:47 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: BCR #226
"All I can say is that if Bush does see it get to his desk and he signs it, I won't vote for him in the 2004 election."

You can take it to the bank. The bill won't get within 2 miles of his desk. That's the ONLY reason for this strategery. Be of good faith. Not everything is as it seems. Which is why the Dims keep getting their heads handed to them.

Michael

38 posted on 05/09/2003 11:19:02 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: discostu
"Centrist" politics seek to offend nobody, and they also fail to inspire anybody!
I did not support Bush so that he could be a "Centrist" republicrat, I supported him to be a Republican who would undo Klintons legacy of sociailsm, eliteism, and enviro-terrorism!

Bush has been a disappointment.

He has not made any visible or concerted effort to repeal ANY of Klintons garbage, in any area that I can recall.

All "Gun Control" should have been consigned to the history books as an affront to the constitution, it should have been purged as the conspiracy to dissolve American constitutional rights and culture that it is.
Bush's statement supporting "All existing laws", and the Bans in particular, is just plain dumb.
Most, if not all, of those "existing law's" are unconstitutional!
Is GW saying he supports unconstitutional laws?

This, along with his support of the draconian and unconstitutional aspects of several recent "Laws" to "combat terrorism", leave me much less than inspired by his "leadership".

I find myself wondering if we will ever see a genuine republican, who truly understands and respects the constitution, taking office?

I know the commun....ugh, democrats are worse.
But I was hoping for genuine change, not just a matter of degree.

If the ban is renewed I will be looking for a new party, I will not be able to remain a republican.
39 posted on 05/09/2003 11:19:28 AM PDT by Richard-SIA
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To: Joe Whitey
I'll answer you by directing you to a post I wrote earlier this morning.
40 posted on 05/09/2003 11:19:48 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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