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Tuition cut for illegal immigrants
The Spokesman-Review | 5-8-03 | Richard Roesler

Posted on 05/08/2003 12:29:01 PM PDT by lilylangtree

OLYMPIA--With the stroke of a pen, Gov. Gary Locke on Wednesday made it much cheaper for illegal immigrants to go to college in Washington state.

Until now, such students have had to pay non-resident tuition to attend state colleges and community colleges. When the new law takes effect in July, illegal immigrants can pay the much-cheaper resident tuition rate, provided that they graduated from a Washington high school and have lived in the state for at least three years.

The change will cut the price of college dramatically for such students. At Washington State University, tuition and fees for residents total $4,520 a year. For non-residents, it's $12,270.

At Eastern Washington University, it's $3,462 a year, versus $11,739 for nonresidents.

The difference is primarily due to the fact that state taxpayers subsidize much of the actual cost of college for residents.

"We're making history in this state," said Francisco Tamayo, a counselor at WSU's Chicano/Latino Student center. "A lot of students who are very sharp, all of a sudden they hit a dead end."

Illegal immigrants are not eligible for federal financial aid, making the cost of college even more of a problem.

"I think it's a long time in coming," said Carlos Maldonado, Eastern's director of Chicano studies. "Rather than closing the educational door on them, now we're able to say 'OK, you can come to school.' And that individual is going to be in a position to contribute further to our state."

The change also applies to community colleges, which average yearly tuition of $1,982 for residents and $7,191 for nonresidents.

More than a dozen lawmakers in the House of Representatives opposed the change, inclluding local Reps. Brad Benson, R-Spokane; Larry Crouse, R-Spokane, and Lynn Schindler, R-Spokane Valley. The Republican-controlled state Senate also fought the change, attaching a clause to exclude such students. Locke vetoed that section.

Rep. Jim Clements, R-Selah, said the bill works against citizens and those who have come to America legally. He predicted that they will sue, if they are squeezed out of high-demand college programs like nursing to make room for illegal immigrant students.

"I understand the intent. There's love behind it," he told lawmakers. "But I think the consequences will lead us to court and litigation."

Clements also pointed out that an illegal immigrant cannot legally get a job in the United States, although there are occasional amnesty periods when people who are here illegally can apply for legal status.

Rep. Brad Benson, who married a citizen of Mexico and has watched other family members struggling to legally live in America, said the bill does little to encourage people who followed the rules.

"It's another thing that makes it easy to be illegal, and nothing makes it easy to be legal," Benson said.

Others said that it benefits no one to cut the students off from college. Many of the students have lived in America nearly all their lives, they said, and have gone to school alongside the children of citizens and legal immigrants.

"It's the right thing to do," said Rep. Don Cox, R-Colfax. "Nobody gains by leaving entire groups of future workers uneducated."

"I understand the rationale behind it (the objectives)," said Tamayo. "But the reality is that these are home-grown Washingtonians."

"They're already contributing to the tax structure of the state, through the sales tax and other taxes," said Maldonado.

One of those present at Wednesday's bill-signing was Jorge Madrazo, consul for Mexico in Seattle.

"Today is a very special day for Mexicans and Mexican-Americans living in the Evergreen State," he said. "Our young children will study very hard."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: illegalimmigration; tuition
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To: nothingnew
an I get the same rate as residents of washungton to attend classes, or do I have to renounce my US citizenship first?

Supposedly all of these laws violate the 1996 Immigration act, which deletes any federal funding for such states that have this law unless they extend the same benefit to any U.S. citizen. Even without that, there is a 14th amendment argument against unequal treatment for citizens that would most likely hold here.

We'll see if any of the 'conservative' legal foundations have the guts to go after this, or if the Big R's warn them off.

21 posted on 05/08/2003 6:29:20 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: lilylangtree
Get out of California fast.....Uh, oh wait a minute.....
22 posted on 05/08/2003 6:31:07 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: PetroniDE
OLYMPIA--With the stroke of a pen, Gov. Gary Locke on Wednesday made it much cheaper for illegal immigrants to go to college in Washington state.

Texas doing the same thing.... What part of Illegal do these politicians NOT understand?

What you don't understand my friend, is that your government no longer represents you, and don't give a good gawd damn what you think.

23 posted on 05/08/2003 6:33:59 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: lilylangtree
If the subject of money and tuition costs don't wake up the liberal, mush minded students who are nose-ring led by their socialist/communist professors....nothing will.

Perhaps (and I'm only wishing here) they'll take this to the polls and wake up. Socialism doesn't work. It is evil.

24 posted on 05/08/2003 6:42:22 PM PDT by kstewskis ("political correctness is intellectual terrorism...." Mel Gibson)
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To: j_tull
"It's the right thing to do," said Rep. Don Cox R-Colfax. "Nobody gains by leaving entire groups of future workers uneducated." >>>>>>>>>>>>>


EXCUSE ME !!!......I thought it was ILLEGAL for ILLEGALS to
work in the USA.....so why are we being FORCED to educate
"future" ILLEGAL workers ??
25 posted on 05/08/2003 7:04:42 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: grania
OUTRAGE ALERT !!!

Outrage does not begin to express my anger... I moved from California ten years ago to get away from this madness...where I live now they are considering passing the same kind of law : (

26 posted on 05/08/2003 7:07:16 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: PetroniDE
Texas doing the same thing.... >>>>>

E-mail your reps.....remind then that it ILLEGAL for illegals to work in the USA.....then ask
WHY tax-payers are being forced to educate these "future (illegal) workers" ??
27 posted on 05/08/2003 7:14:09 PM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: Bob J; Willie Green; lonestar; txdoda; kstewskis; All
This is just another case of Democrats using Middle American taxpayer dollars to buy illegal votes.
28 posted on 05/08/2003 7:14:52 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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To: madfly; Dutchy; RaceBannon
Rep. Jim Clements, R-Selah, said the bill works against citizens and those who have come to America legally. He predicted that they will sue, if they are squeezed out of high-demand college programs like nursing to make room for illegal immigrant students.

SUE THE BASTARDS! Let the courts explain to them precisely what the term ILLEGAL means. This is outrageous!

29 posted on 05/08/2003 7:17:09 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: lilylangtree
I'm sure the Bush administration will take care of this problem at the federal level.
/sarcasm
30 posted on 05/08/2003 7:39:56 PM PDT by dagnabbit
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To: StarFan
This makes my blood boil, and my own local state rep, a RINO Republican voted FOR it! Actually I hope a lot of other stupid states for it too now though, so the illegals won't all flock to Washington. we've got way too many here as it it (and one is one too many!!!)
31 posted on 05/08/2003 8:24:00 PM PDT by holyscroller
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To: PetroniDE
>> Texas doing the same thing.... What part of Illegal do these politicians NOT understand? <<

Just passed in Illinois and awaiting the governor's signature (yes, he promises to sign it). Amazingly, they had the gall to do this after CUTTING grants to academically gifted yet low income TAXPAYING citizen college students. Claimed the recession "forced" them to make those "painful" cuts.

Evidentially, the Illinois legislature is more concerned about ensuring illegal criminals can attend college than bright, hard-working, tax-paying citizens. A whooping four members of the 'RAT-controlled Illinois House were the ONLY ones to vote against this joke. Obviously the illegal alien lobby has bought off most of the "Republican" opposition too.

32 posted on 05/08/2003 9:30:54 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: lilylangtree
"It's the right thing to do," said Rep. Don Cox, RINO-Colfax. "Nobody gains by leaving entire groups of future workers uneducated, but I intend to do exactly that by using your taxdollars to send ILLEGAL CRIMINALS to college instead of YOUR kids".
33 posted on 05/08/2003 9:35:39 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: lilylangtree
In other words, a law-breaker from Guatemala is far more desirable to have as a student at State U. than any American from any other state. They want them so badly that the schools will slash the price for them, and continue to soak the kids from neighboring states. Simply incredible.
34 posted on 05/08/2003 10:04:38 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Kuksool
"The madness is spreading to the Midwest as well. The IL General Assembly passed in-state tuition for illegal immigrants by an overwhelming margin. The RAT Governor of IL is expected to sign the bill into law."

Hey - We Hain Nho Dhummies!
We Know Who Gonna Vote - An Who Ain Non Gunna Vote!
U.S. Governors Up For Reelection

35 posted on 05/08/2003 10:08:52 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: lilylangtree
Disgraceful in a time of tight state budgets
36 posted on 05/09/2003 12:00:41 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: lilylangtree
That is the reverse of what is needed.
37 posted on 05/09/2003 12:03:14 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: lilylangtree
Your state deserves to lose Boeing. It's obviously run by total morons.
38 posted on 05/09/2003 12:18:45 AM PDT by Beck_isright (If France actually won a war that mattered, would the world come to an end?)
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To: lilylangtree
Rep. Brad Benson, who married a citizen of Mexico and has watched other family members struggling to legally live in America, said the bill does little to encourage people who followed the rules.

Punish the law-followers, reward the law-breakers. How does a legal foreign student feel about paying the top-rate just because they respected the law?

39 posted on 05/09/2003 6:14:17 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Beck_isright
Boeing has moved the executive offices to Chicago. It's already let a number of employees go. And yes, RAT Gov. Gary Locke was blamed for it, but he's like Slick Willie nothing sticks. Maybe because he's the first Chinese-American to be governor. The year after he was elected Governor he and his wife, Mona (also Chinese-American), made a big trip to China at taxpayers expense to find his roots. I also noticed that he appointed quite a number of Chinese-Americans to offices. His cerebral cortex needs to meet with a big 2x4 club, along with other RATS and Repubs that supported this awful piece of legislation.
40 posted on 05/09/2003 8:53:43 AM PDT by lilylangtree
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