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Where are they, Mr. President? (Buchanan about no WMD found so far in Iraq)
WorldNetDaily ^ | Patrick J Buchanan

Posted on 05/07/2003 7:15:56 PM PDT by FairOpinion

After each war, historians sift through the record to discern its real causes. Invariably, they divide into two camps: the court historians who defend the war leaders and the revisionists who prosecute them before the bar of history.

After World War II, the evidence that FDR had steered us into war, while asserting he was doing his best to avert war, was so massive even his court historians admit he lied. Wrote Thomas A. Bailey in FDR's defense, "He was like the physician who must tell the patient lies for his own good."

Roosevelt had cut off Japan's oil, sent the Flying Tigers to China and sought to tempt Japan into attacking a line of picket ships. He had lied about German subs torpedoing U.S. destroyers and Nazi plans to conquer South America and replace the Christian cross with the swastika. This mattered in 1950. For, with Stalin triumphant in Europe and China, it appeared – in Churchill's phrase – that we "had killed the wrong pig."

But today, with the immense focus on the Holocaust, the question is no longer, "Did FDR lie?" But, "Why did we not declare war sooner?"

Vietnam was, in Reagan's phrase, "a noble cause." But because it was a lost cause, it is now said and believed we only went to war because LBJ had misled us about the Tonkin Gulf incident.

The war in Iraq is being portrayed by the president's men as a just and necessary war that removed a mortal peril. But if our victory turns to ashes in our mouths, and we discover that we have inherited our own West Bank in Mesopotamia, the White House will have to explain again why we went there.

In his speech from the deck of the Abraham Lincoln, President Bush told the nation, "With those attacks (of 9-11), the terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States. And war is what they got" – i.e., the invasion of Iraq was payback for the killers of Sept. 11.

But is this the truth? For this war on Iraq was not sold to the nation as retribution for 9-11. Indeed, the ties between Iraqi intelligence and the al-Qaida killers turned out to be bogus War Party propaganda.

We were told, rather, that Saddam had gas and germ weapons and was working on nuclear weapons. And once he had them, he would use them on us, or give them to Osama. "Do you want to wait for a nuclear 9-11?" Americans were asked.

Trusting the president, believing that he had information we did not, a majority of Americans approved of pre-emptive war. But where, now, are the thousands of artillery warheads and terror weapons the president and secretary of state told us Saddam had?

We have scoured Iraq for a month. No Scuds have been found. No chemical or biological weapons. No laboratories or production lines. No evidence that Iraq was building nukes or seeking fissile material.

"Every statement I make today is backed up by ... solid sources," Colin Powell told the United Nations. But since then, his case has crumbled. Were he a district attorney, Colin Powell would be under investigation today for prosecutorial incompetence or possible fraud. One British document he relied on turned out to be a 10-year-old term paper by a graduate student. The documents from Niger proving Iraq was seeking "yellowcake" for nuclear bombs turned out to be forgeries – and crude ones at that.

Who forged them? Why have we not been told? Does the secretary who put his integrity on the line not want to know?

If our occupation of Iraq turns sour and U.S. troops are being shot in the back, a year from now, Americans are going to demand to know. And President Bush could face the charge thrown up in the face of FDR by Clare Boothe Luce, that he "lied us into war."

Both the president and Powell are honorable men. If they misled us, surely it is because they themselves were misled. It is impossible to believe either man would deliberately state as fact what he knew to be false. But the president must find these weapons – or find the men who told him, with such certitude, that Iraq had them.

For there is something strange here. If Saddam had these weapons, why did he not surrender them to save himself? If he did not give them up because he intended to use them on us, why did he not use them on us? And if they were destroyed before the war, why did he not simply show us where, and thereby save himself, his family and his regime?

Last fall, Congress abdicated, surrendered its war-making power to a president who demanded that Congress yield it up. If Congress wishes to redeem itself, it should unearth the truth about why we went to war. Was the official explanation the truth, or was it political cover for an American imperial war?


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: buchanan; destruction; finos; iraq; israel; mass; patbuchanan; patrickjbuchanan; patwasright; pitchforkpat; randsconcerntrolls; waronterror; weapons; wmd
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To: Dane
What is french for Patrick, Patrice?

ROFL !!!

61 posted on 05/07/2003 7:49:14 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis (Trying hard to make it to the top spot on Tagbad Todd's "Top Ten List" -Taggie's a liar)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
However, as a Akhenaton well said, "Put a bridle on thy tongue; set a guard before thy lips, lest the words of thine own mouth destroy thy peace...On much speaking cometh repentance, but in silence is safety."

LOL. In an era of talking heads, talk radio, and other elements of "the chattering class," this advice is sure to fall on deaf ears.

Pat's always had one major problem -- the same problem that Rush Limbaugh has to a much lesser extent. These people are at their best when they are functioning as members of the unofficial opposition. The heyday of Limbaugh's radio show, and the best columns that Buchanan has ever written, date back to those 1992-94 days when the forces of the political world were arrayed against conservatives.

Now it is 2003. Limbaugh's show has lost a little flavor because he doesn't have as much to satirize about, and Buchanan is left criticizing an administration that has been, by and large, a pretty good one by most conservative standards.

62 posted on 05/07/2003 7:49:22 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: what's up
"I believe the Bush administration already has a cache of WMD captured from Iraq.
I believe they will wait until the cache is very large, and then they will reveal it."

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I tend to agree. Rumsfeld alluded to something like that, that they don't want to release things in bits and pieces, they will release them, when they are ready.

Let the Democrats and idiots like Pat dig themselves into a hole, harping about "No WMD, no WMD", then we will reveal stuff that will make their hair curl and the American People will see that we got there in the nick of time.

After the 1991 Gulf war there was surprise that Saddam was much further along, than intelligence reports said. Also, during the UN inspections, they had no idea about Saddam's biological weapons, until his son-in-law defected and told us about them and where to look.
63 posted on 05/07/2003 7:49:32 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Willie Green
Pat has NO facts. Point to a single one.
64 posted on 05/07/2003 7:50:49 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: dogbyte12
...been watching Discovery Channel again??...

LOL!

65 posted on 05/07/2003 7:50:57 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: doug from upland
You know exactly what I meant.
66 posted on 05/07/2003 7:52:11 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: small voice in the wilderness
OMG.....Gerald Ford? How embarassing for us!
67 posted on 05/07/2003 7:52:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: dogbyte12
Akhenaton was an Egyptian pharoh (1380-1362 BC), the predecessor of Tutankamen, and husband of Nefertiti, Akhenaton radically revised the Egyptian religious world by instituting a unique form of monotheism. His innovation temporarially ushered in a period of artistic freedom an innovention in Egypt known as Amarna Art

Amenhotep IV ruled at the height of Egypt's empire. He is remembered for combining the hundreds of deities worshipped in ancient Egypt into one overarching deity -- Aton Ra, a sun deity. Amenhotep then changed his own name to "Akhenaton" -- or servant of Aton. His radical change in religion was a direct challenge to the priestly caste. Priests were chosen by status at birth, and were guaranteed incredible power as the spokesmen (and women) of the gods. When Akhenaton declared Aton-Ra as the supreme god, he also declared that he himself was the sole spokesman of Aton-Ra. The priests suddenly found themselves out of favor, out of power, and effectively out of a job. They were not happy. Akhenaton, on the other hand, had effectively consolidated his power. The centralization of power, combined with a weakening of the age-old superstition, produced a boom in art and creativity known as Amarna Art. LINK

68 posted on 05/07/2003 7:52:58 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Howlin
I've got the exact opposite impression. If Clinton had been president on 9/11, he would have reacted in a thoroughly reckless, irrational manner just for the sake of doing so and making a mark in the history books.
69 posted on 05/07/2003 7:53:03 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: doug from upland
" I barely could glance at this. For a man I used to admire, Pat Buchanan has become a real POS."

Amen to that. I remember the Crossfire of the 80's when Pat would stand up for conservatives and hand that nasty liberal fossil, Tom Braden, his head on quite a few nights. And many times done it was done with good humor.Does Pat laugh anymore?
70 posted on 05/07/2003 7:53:47 PM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: FairOpinion
Yes, The Rumsfeld comment certainly backs this theory up.

I for one would be disappointed if no WMD were found as this was stated as the primary reason for going to war; however, I don't believe this will be the case.

71 posted on 05/07/2003 7:53:52 PM PDT by what's up
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To: FairOpinion
Frankly,
I am a supporter of Pat Buchanan, and although I don't agree with everything in the article, as a big supporter of the war, I refuse to be sucked into the smoke and mirrors that many of you obviously have. You don't find any problems with waging wars, if the primise was completely false and made up by our leaders? I do.
I also love Pats desire to close our borders and not ship American Jobs to china. The republican party is so scared of being insesitive to people that will never vote for them in the first place, that they screw their base. I voted for Bush because he truly was the lesser of two evils. i believed that Gore would literally destroy this country. If I was voting my conscience, I certainly would have voted for Buchanan. He isn't afraid to speak his mind, instead of having 15 campaign writers proof read speeches to make sure they're sensitive enough. Ok that was enough of a rant. I just am watching the republicans screw the people that elect them. They haven't ended affirmative action, bush supported embryonic research, they haven't done much to close our borders,and i'm tired of their inaction,

Jon
72 posted on 05/07/2003 7:54:27 PM PDT by amadorjon
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To: what's up
Pat is nothing more than he always has been. He is just seen in a radically different way since the war on terrorism.
73 posted on 05/07/2003 7:54:37 PM PDT by Conservababe
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To: small voice in the wilderness
...been watching Discovery Channel again??...

Nah, when I was 14, I wanted to be an egyptologist. Ahkenaten was a fascinating fellow. Considered to be one of if not the first important monotheists.

74 posted on 05/07/2003 7:54:44 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: FairOpinion
Obviuously Mr. Buchanan has taken to drink since he faded from the public limelight.
75 posted on 05/07/2003 7:54:58 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: dogbyte12; Victoria Delsoul
I see there are some Egyptology fans here. :)

So what's behind the second door?
76 posted on 05/07/2003 7:55:27 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Ahkenaten's personal art was also fascinating. He was the first Egyptian realist Pharoah. All busts, portraits, displays of the Egyptian Pharoah's were quite a bit touched up to make them look gorgeous, buff, powerful even when reality was not the same.

Ahkenaten had a big old paunchy belly, and he insisted that his busts be realistic. This was another thing that ticked off the priest and royal class.

To keep it on topic... Pat Buchanan is a weenie *grin*

77 posted on 05/07/2003 7:57:56 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: Willie Green
"That seems to be all this thread consists of, so far. "

While I disagree with your premise, I'll give it a shot.

Patsie:"For there is something strange here. If Saddam had these weapons, why did he not surrender them to save himself? If he did not give them up because he intended to use them on us, why did he not use them on us? And if they were destroyed before the war, why did he not simply show us where, and thereby save himself, his family and his regime?"

This 'analysis' by Pat shows an alarming naiveté towards knowledge of Hussein and his history. Of course, I'm quite sure that Pat has no knowledge of any history, as he has quite adequately demonstrated in this column.

78 posted on 05/07/2003 7:58:00 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Alberta's Child
To tell you the truth, the only way Buchanan can get on TV is by criticizing the Republicans; that's his only hope.
79 posted on 05/07/2003 7:59:01 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: dogbyte12
LOL!
80 posted on 05/07/2003 7:59:43 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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