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To: anniegetyourgun
Treece said hes tired of being painted as anti-American simply because he challenges students not to take what anyone not the president, their parents, or even he says at face value.I have never thought it was a teacher's duty to comment on the parent child relationship. Treece's admission that he tries to get kids to evaluate what their parent say bothers me.
If the child is supposed to evaluate what their parents say, then it stands to reason they are to listen when they want and do whatever they please the rest of the time. Nice work Treece.
I've seen teachers like this. They sell themselves as the most reasonable person the children have ever met. Then they push their agenda. "I don't care what you believe, just make sure you can defend it." Most kids think, wow, what a cool dude. This guy is very open and HONEST. If he thinks the president is a putz, he may be.
If Treece is challenged he simply says, "Hey, I'm just teaching kids to think for themselves." I would disagree. He is destroying their beliefs system in order to instill his own. Can his ass.
You don't have to display things like Treece does, to be effective in the classroom.
As for the officer who took the pictures, I do believe he crossed the line. One the other hand we'd have never been given access to the despicable carp on Treece's classroom walls if the officer hadn't done what he did. It's a screwed up system that creates a situation where a person has to use subtrifuge simply to investigate what really goes on inside a child's classroom.
The principle is a good example of why our schools are so screwed up. Is she concerned with the obvious bias of the teacher? Nope, she couldn't care less. What bothers her is that her sacred cow has been gored. "You can't get away with that on MY campus!" She should follow Treece's lead to the unemployment line.
To: anniegetyourgun
Joe McCarthy was right. Ann Coulter tells why in her new book Treason.
To: anniegetyourgun
School officials have rejected that notion, defending Treece as a thought-provoking teacher who provides students in his public issues class with resources from the full spectrum of political perspectives. These unnamed school officials are complete Anti-American slime that should not be feeding off the American taxpayers. The nature of the projects shows that Treece does indoctrinate his students and should be tarred and feathered as a start. His school official enablers, superiors, should probably be more severly punished.
88 posted on
05/06/2003 10:16:31 AM PDT by
harpseal
(Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
To: anniegetyourgun
I listened to Rush talk about this first hour.
What I don't understand is why no parents have taken their kids out of the class/school or kicked this Commie scum's @$$.
To: anniegetyourgun
My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see, Neither the republicans nor the demorats are going to like this.
108 posted on
05/06/2003 10:25:28 AM PDT by
thepitts
(Hell hath no fury like vested interest masquerading as a moral principle!!)
To: anniegetyourgun
Were not embarrassed about what was in that classroom, she said. We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like. As if he somehow managed to make the camera take pictures of what really wans't there?
116 posted on
05/06/2003 10:28:45 AM PDT by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: anniegetyourgun
Sick.
123 posted on
05/06/2003 10:31:27 AM PDT by
k2blader
(Reason is our soul's left hand, Faith her right. - John Donne)
To: anniegetyourgun
Among the student projects that Mott said he photographed were a poster of the President Bush with duct tape over his mouth and a large papier-mâché combat boot with the American flag stuffed inside stepping on a doll. He said there also were pictures of Cuban dictator Fidel Castro and his former chief lieutenant, Ernesto Che Guevara, posted on the walls. Having spent 30 years in uniform, I was insulted, he said.
Im just taking a stand on what happens in that classroom as a resident and a voter and a taxpayer of this community.
I tell kids from day one: I dont want you to agree with me, I want you to be informed and think for yourselves, he said. I have never squashed dissent in my class in any way shape or form.
I have to ask you...if he presented all sides, where are the examples of saddam's torture chambers, beheadings etcc..the list can go on and on.
124 posted on
05/06/2003 10:31:28 AM PDT by
Freedom2specul8
(Please pray for our troops.... http://anyservicemember.navy.mil/)
To: anniegetyourgun
Were not embarrassed about what was in that classroom, she said. We just want to make sure that the pictures he (Mott) took are an accurate reflection of what the classroom looked like.
Does that comment make sense to anybody? It seems to me, if it is a photograph ... never mind.
131 posted on
05/06/2003 10:33:26 AM PDT by
BSunday
To: anniegetyourgun
Treece said his message to students is simple: Defend what you believe and if you cant defend it Im going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue youre on.Yeah, okay. I don't suppose the enthusiasm with which Treece "picks holes" would depend on which side of the argument he likes. Oh, no.
I want them to understand that everybodys got an agenda
everybody, he said. Treece said that goes for his detractors, some of whom are using the controversy over a six-word sentence All hail the idiot boy king that he posted on a bulletin board next to a picture of President Bush.... I did not recognize how fragile peoples feelings were at the time, he said. It was horrible timing on my part.
I think this guy Treece is a liar and a scumbag.
If I had children in his class I would demand that they be transferred out immediately. Not only because this weirdo's views are so Democrat (yeah, he definitely goes into the polling place and votes for more and more government confiscation... of his neighbors' money), but because anti-capitalist, socialist big-mouths like Treece often have.... other problems. Put it this way: I wouldn't want this guy anywhere near my kids.
To: anniegetyourgun
Treece is that teacher. A passionate pacifist, he has been skewered publicly by critics who say he is pedaling his personal political views to the students in his class.
DO THESE PEOPLE NOT HAVE EDITORS ?? Criminy ... I'm thinking I can get a job by just correcting reporters' errors and make a decent living at it.
144 posted on
05/06/2003 10:40:00 AM PDT by
Centurion2000
(We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
To: anniegetyourgun
mark for later reading
To: anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun
Defend what you believe and if you cant defend it Im going to pick holes in your argument no matter what side of the issue youre on.
Why is it that I am 100% sure he doesn't pick holes in the "progressive" argument?
To: anniegetyourgun
Hmmmm ... a public funded school that the public must first get permmission in advance to visit. Kind of like the dance between Sodom and the un-inspectors. These schools are molding the minds of our children the parents should have absolute say in what their children are taught. But elites don't see it that way.
201 posted on
05/06/2003 11:05:48 AM PDT by
fella
To: anniegetyourgun
Funny how the liberals and media had no such outrage regarding the methods used to obtain the Pentagon papers, Linda Tripp's records, or Bill Bennett's gambling info.
To: anniegetyourgun
My goal in that class is to get kids to think and be critical of everything they read and hear and see, he said.
Especially in a NEA-controlled classroom!
242 posted on
05/06/2003 11:22:21 AM PDT by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty" not the "Statue of Security.")
To: anniegetyourgun
Sounds very much like we have our own little home grown version of the Tailban Madrass School.
296 posted on
05/06/2003 11:49:47 AM PDT by
Flint
To: anniegetyourgun
Heard Rush this morning, rare listening. He spent a lot of time on this non-issue. Both the cop and the teacher are creeps.
355 posted on
05/06/2003 12:46:36 PM PDT by
RightWhale
(Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
To: anniegetyourgun
It's OK for him to call Bush an "idiot boy king" - none of which is true, but he gets his feelings hurt when people call him un-American. What a jackass.
365 posted on
05/06/2003 12:58:18 PM PDT by
HeadOn
(The course of this nation does not depend on the decisions of others.)
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