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“Guns & Mothers” to Air on PBS
Second Amendment Sisters, Inc. ^ | 5/6/03 | Maria Heil

Posted on 05/06/2003 6:59:42 AM PDT by technochick99

“Guns & Mothers” to Air on PBS

Second Amendment Sisters Spokesperson Featured in Documentary
Contact: Maria Heil of Second Amendment Sisters, 877-797-4857 (press only)
or email: press@2asisters.org

LAKEWAY, Texas, May 6, --The Second Amendment Sisters (SAS) today announced that Maria Heil is the featured “pro-gun” Mother in the upcoming “Guns & Mothers” documentary, which is scheduled to air on PBS’s “Independent Lens” during the week of May 11th.

Mrs. Heil is the National Press Coordinator and Legislative Liaison for SAS, and mother of four.

Guns and Mothers is produced and directed by Thom Powers of Sugar Pictures The documentary chronicles the lives of two activists on opposite sides of the gun control debate.

On the pro-rights side is Mrs. Heil, who first got involved in activism in March 2000 when she read on the so-called “Million” Mom March (MMM) website, “…regardless of the interpretation, the second amendment is irrelevant.” It was that one sentence which changed Heil’s direction in life. Read Mrs. Heil’s comments about the documentary

Frances Davis, who lives in Brooklyn, NY, lost her three sons to criminal violence between 1987 and 1993. Davis apparently wants to ban private ownership of guns, “Gun control, we do need it because I really feel that average citizens really should not be armed.” Ms. Davis is somewhat disillusioned with the so-called “Million” Mom March, as she stated on Mother’s Day 2001, “Last year, last Mothers Day, there was a big hype and everybody was talking about the Million Moms March and going to Washington. Well, it’s one day and it’s over, then you go back to your communities and nothing happens.”

Check for your local airing time http://www.pbs.org/whatson/index.html

Fast Facts-
-90% of all violent crimes in the U.S. do not involve firearms of any type. (Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, 1998)

-Less than 1% of all firearms will ever be used in the commission of a crime. (FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1994)

-20% of U.S. homicides occur in four cities with just six percent of the population—New York, Chicago, Detroit, and Washington, DC—and each has a virtual prohibition on private handguns. (Dr. Gary Kleck, University of Florida using FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1997)

Source-"Gun Facts" by Guy Smith.
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To: technochick99
Gun control, we do need it because I really feel that average citizens really should not be armed.

I'm not an "average" citizen, I know what the constitution says.

NEXT ARGUMENT PLEASE...


21 posted on 05/06/2003 7:40:27 AM PDT by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Travis McGee
Thanks. Always force them to define their terms. That's the true weak point in all of this. The Left has long ago hijacked the very language that we use to frame our debates. It's the first thing we need to take back in these debates. And it's a killer tactic. Takes a forceful and confident debater to pull it off.
22 posted on 05/06/2003 7:41:07 AM PDT by Noumenon (Don't immanentize the eschaton!)
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To: Noumenon
Of course, SAS's motto is 'self defense is a basic human right', so that it my approach as well.

When I debate, I am not talking to the person I am speaking with - I am talking to those who are undecided and listening to the back and forth.

My complaint is against those (primarily men) who argue with the Constitution as their main argument. Of course, it's a valid and true argument, but does nothing to convince the undecided middle.

By arguing with emotion, I stress the self-defense issue, hammering in on the idea of protecting not only themselves, but their family and friends as well.

Women react emotionally to the subject of attack, rape and our feelings of vulnerability. If you have 60 seconds to make an impression on someone, these are best buttons to push to make your point.

23 posted on 05/06/2003 7:42:23 AM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: Noumenon
. Always force them to define their terms. That's the true weak point in all of this. The Left has long ago hijacked the very language that we use to frame our debates. It's the first thing we need to take back in these debates. And it's a killer tactic. Takes a forceful and confident debater to pull it off.

Jiminy Crickets, Noumenon, are you a mind-reader? I have used that phrasing (he who defines the terms wins the argument) in personal relationships since college on. :) Since the anti's cannot defend their terms in an intelligent fashion, we can lead the argument to a proper definition.

That is why I use 'lookism' as an argument against the AWB, and believe that the only way to undermine the antis is to use their language against them. Thus 'human right' since that is a buzzword of the UN.

24 posted on 05/06/2003 7:45:54 AM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: technochick99
Replying to both your posts, I agree. A first-principles argument based on the fundamental right to self-defense is genuine button-pusher. I see the goal as twofold - to address the audience and the unconvinced (the primary goal) and to expose the moral bankruptcy of the opposition.

"What's your life worth?" "What's your family's life worth?" "If you don't care about your life, what about your kids' lives?" "You may feel that it's OK to sacrifice your life and your family's lives to the first thug who demands them, but I care about MY life and MY family - and you have NO right to make that morally bankrupt decision for me."
25 posted on 05/06/2003 7:56:37 AM PDT by Noumenon (Don't immanentize the eschaton!)
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To: technochick99
Bump and FYI, Kim.
26 posted on 05/06/2003 8:33:42 AM PDT by GummyIII
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To: technochick99
Putting the terms "Guns", "Mothers", and "PBS" together is and expecting a unbiased analysis would be akin to placing the words:

"Panties", "Whiskey", and "Homerun" into a teenage boys mind and expecting a soliloquy on virtue.

27 posted on 05/06/2003 8:39:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
They created the document some time before they sold it to PBS.
28 posted on 05/06/2003 9:30:32 AM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: feinswinesuksass
bump
29 posted on 05/06/2003 9:30:54 AM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: technochick99
"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

"KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON."

"IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!"

"DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL."

"DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU."
"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."


5 Rules of Conceal and Carry (like a pistol)




* YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY.

Draw it solely in preparation to protect yourself or an innocent third party from the wrongful and criminal activities of another.


* KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON.

The criminal adversary must have or reasonably appear to have:

A. The ABILITY to inflict serious bodily injury. He is armed or reasonably appears to be armed.

B. The OPPORTUNITY to inflict serious bodily harm. He is positioned to harm you with his weapon, and,

C. His INTENT (hostile actions or words) indicates that he means to place you in jeopardy - to do you serious or fatal physical harm.

When all three of these "attack potential" elements are in place simultaneously, then you are facing a reasonably perceived deadly threat that justifies an emergency deadly force response. Note that these conditions may be defined differently in certain circumstances. For example, a small woman may be justified in using deadly force with a handgun against a much stronger male who is unarmed and attempting to rape or kill her. For a male vs. male encounter the defendant probably would not be justified unless possibly if he was physically handicapped, elderly, etc. This is known as disparity of force.


3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!

Just because you are armed doesn't necessarily mean that you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your situation awareness skills so that you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble as much as possible. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might only be your bruised ego, which should heal quickly with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation, and it escalates into deadly force, you risk the possibility of death or serious injury to yourself and any friends, family members, or innocent bystanders that may be present.

Also you face the possibility of criminal liability and/or financial ruin from a civil lawsuit as a result of your actions. Flee if you can - fight only as a last resort.

Naturally, there are circumstances in which you may be able to flee but it would not be in your best interest or judgment to do so. For example, a situation that you could easily flee from when alone may be difficult to safely avoid if your family was with you. Also it may be a judgment/ethics call on whether or not to fight or flee based on what is happening to potential victims around you.

For example, a gunman may be threatening the life of someone else and not even notice you. If you leave the scene, and go call 911 and just wait for the police to show up, you may have to deal with guilt and emotional issues that result if the gunman kills someone. In contrast, if you intervene, then you may risk your own life. Remember that self-preservation, and keeping your loved ones safe should be your first priorities. Always remember to stay calm and quickly analyze the situation at hand. Use good judgment on how you will react to any given circumstance.


4. DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL.

You should expect to be arrested by police at gunpoint, and be charged with a crime anytime your concealed handgun is seen by another citizen in public, regardless of how unintentional, innocent, or justified the situation might seem.

Choose a method of carry that reliably keeps your gun hidden from public view at all times. You have no control over how a stranger will react to seeing (or learning about) your concealed weapon. He of she might become alarmed and report you as a "man or woman with a gun". Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might maliciously embellish their story in an attempt to have your gun seized by police or in order to get you arrested. Even though your jacket only blew open for a moment, giving a brief glimpse of your gun, that person may tell the police that you were waving it around like a homicidal maniac. An alarmed citizen who reports a "man or woman with a gun" is going to be a lot more credible to police than you are when you are stopped because you match the "suspect's" description and you are found to have a concealed handgun in your possession. Before you deliberately expose your gun in public, ask yourself "is this worth going to jail for?" The only time this question should warrant a "yes" response is when an adversary has at least both the ABILITY and INTENT and is actively seeking the OPPORTUNITY to do you great harm.

Also, remember that proper concealment of a weapon is more than just covering it up so that it is not physically visible. You want to remove as much as possible any signs that you are armed. For example, you would not wear a tight T-shirt that shows the lines of your gun printing through it, especially if that T-shirt has a firearm related logo or statement on it. Also, a black nylon fanny-pack or a photographer's vest may, in certain areas or in certain modes of dress tell any half-educated person that you are packing a gun. It is also not usually a very good idea to let too many people know that you carry a gun. This fact should be limited to your immediate family and select friends who are "gun people" also. Please, for your sake and the sake of others around you - be discreet!


5. DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU.

When you are armed, you must realize that you just lost your right to initiate ANY type of confrontation that could possibly escalate into a violent encounter. You must now have a very mellow attitude on life and your fellow mankind.

You just lost the right to flip off the motorist who just cut you off in traffic. You have to ignore the scumbag who just "wolf-whistled" at your wife/girlfriend. If someone wants to pick a fight with you, you lost the right to respond in any way other than a kind, friendly manner while walking away. As an armed person you must be more likely and willing to avoid trouble that an unarmed person would be. You have the legal and moral obligation of de-escalating any situation that you are presented with unless you are faced by someone displaying all three of the "attack potential" elements. Carrying a loaded firearm among your fellow citizens is an awesome responsibility that is not to be taken lightly.

Remember, once you strap on your weapon, you must carry with it a great measure of discretion and judgment, along with an easy-going attitude.

30 posted on 05/06/2003 9:44:38 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER (Citizen Carry)
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To: technochick99
Bump. It is PBS, so I hope she knows the snake pit she is getting into. Congrats.
31 posted on 05/06/2003 10:13:15 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican ("hatemonger")
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To: Noumenon
I agree! When you say "that's a lie" it's a show stopper for them, BUT you MUST have your facts and figures ready to back up that salvo!
32 posted on 05/06/2003 10:42:28 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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33 posted on 05/06/2003 10:48:08 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Dan from Michigan
I thought guns were banned in Brooklyn....

Yes they are, for law abiding citizens. However, criminals may have as many as they want.

34 posted on 05/06/2003 11:16:39 AM PDT by Cacique
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To: mvpel
bump
35 posted on 05/06/2003 11:50:54 AM PDT by technochick99 (Self defense is a basic human right. http://www.2ASisters.org)
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To: technochick99
My local PBS station is apparently not carrying it. There is a 9PM slot next Thursday that says "to be announced." If that's the slot for Mothers and Guns, I guess they don't want to advertise too early.
36 posted on 05/06/2003 1:44:17 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama
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To: Noumenon
"'Don't argue with an idiot - they'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.'"

What a great line! Sorry...but I'm stealing it to use at school. ROFLMAO

37 posted on 05/06/2003 1:48:21 PM PDT by ExSoldier (My OTHER auto is a .45!)
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To: Dan from Michigan
That may have been previously, but the word "virtual" is used, so I think that covers it.
38 posted on 05/06/2003 2:14:55 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (Join Second Amendment Sisters!!!)
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To: from occupied ga
Not really!

You may be surprised, but go to the link for my comments, mostly about what the other side got wrong.

There are a lot of subtle things in this work.

39 posted on 05/06/2003 2:17:38 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (Join Second Amendment Sisters!!!)
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To: *bang_list
PLEASE REMEMBER

LOOK FOR "INDEPENDENT LENS" WHEN LOOKING FOR THE SHOW IN YOUR AREA!

40 posted on 05/06/2003 2:24:24 PM PDT by pro2A Mom (Join Second Amendment Sisters!!!)
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