Sorry, MMM. You're WRONG!

Thanks very much !!.........Stay Safe !

Done!

You got it. Dunno how I missed you!

You watch, he'll forget that URL by tomorrow morning! Got his head too full of gun stuff to have room for anything else! $;-)

Done!

Keep me on the ping list ... you know me, I am a trigger-happy right-wing gun-nut ... at least according to the Million Moron Marchers.

LOL....Nahhh I had to get a bigger hard drive for my lap top (isn't that always the story ?) and lost the link.....my bad ! It's written down and Control "D"'d now !

I am waiting for my new 329PD S&W .44 mag to get here from Lew Horton so yer not far off !

Stay Safe JB !

"had to get a bigger hard drive for my lap top."

Yeah, we believe ya! $;-)

You know, speaking from personal experience, used hard drives make fun pistol targets!

Thanks. Since I fully read the more-voluminous bang list, I won't need to be on your ping list, but you can consider me a member in spirit!

These five rules tell a hugh story. This is way RTC or CCW citizens are safe to be around.

"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

"KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON."

"IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!"

"DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL."

"DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU."
"YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY."

5 Rules of Conceal and Carry (like a pistol)

* YOUR CONCEALED WEAPON IS FOR PROTECTION OF LIFE ONLY.

Draw it solely in preparation to protect yourself or an innocent third party from the wrongful and criminal activities of another.

* KNOW EXACTLY WHEN YOU CAN USE YOUR WEAPON.

The criminal adversary must have or reasonably appear to have:

A. The ABILITY to inflict serious bodily injury. He is armed or reasonably appears to be armed.

B. The OPPORTUNITY to inflict serious bodily harm. He is positioned to harm you with his weapon, and,

C. His INTENT (hostile actions or words) indicates that he means to place you in jeopardy - to do you serious or fatal physical harm.

When all three of these "attack potential" elements are in place simultaneously, then you are facing a reasonably perceived deadly threat that justifies an emergency deadly force response. Note that these conditions may be defined differently in certain circumstances. For example, a small woman may be justified in using deadly force with a handgun against a much stronger male who is unarmed and attempting to rape or kill her. For a male vs. male encounter the defendant probably would not be justified unless possibly if he was physically handicapped, elderly, etc. This is known as disparity of force.

3. IF YOU CAN RUN AWAY SAFELY- RUN!

Just because you are armed doesn't necessarily mean that you must confront a bad guy at gunpoint. Develop your situation awareness skills so that you can be alert to detect and avoid trouble as much as possible. Keep in mind that if you successfully evade a potential confrontation, the single negative consequence involved might only be your bruised ego, which should heal quickly with mature rationalization. But if you force a confrontation, and it escalates into deadly force, you risk the possibility of death or serious injury to yourself and any friends, family members, or innocent bystanders that may be present.

Also you face the possibility of criminal liability and/or financial ruin from a civil lawsuit as a result of your actions. Flee if you can - fight only as a last resort.

Naturally, there are circumstances in which you may be able to flee but it would not be in your best interest or judgment to do so. For example, a situation that you could easily flee from when alone may be difficult to safely avoid if your family was with you. Also it may be a judgment/ethics call on whether or not to fight or flee based on what is happening to potential victims around you.

For example, a gunman may be threatening the life of someone else and not even notice you. If you leave the scene, and go call 911 and just wait for the police to show up, you may have to deal with guilt and emotional issues that result if the gunman kills someone. In contrast, if you intervene, then you may risk your own life. Remember that self-preservation, and keeping your loved ones safe should be your first priorities. Always remember to stay calm and quickly analyze the situation at hand. Use good judgment on how you will react to any given circumstance.

4. DISPLAY YOUR WEAPON, GO TO JAIL.

You should expect to be arrested by police at gunpoint, and be charged with a crime anytime your concealed handgun is seen by another citizen in public, regardless of how unintentional, innocent, or justified the situation might seem.

Choose a method of carry that reliably keeps your gun hidden from public view at all times. You have no control over how a stranger will react to seeing (or learning about) your concealed weapon. He of she might become alarmed and report you as a "man or woman with a gun". Depending on his or her feelings about firearms, this person might maliciously embellish their story in an attempt to have your gun seized by police or in order to get you arrested. Even though your jacket only blew open for a moment, giving a brief glimpse of your gun, that person may tell the police that you were waving it around like a homicidal maniac. An alarmed citizen who reports a "man or woman with a gun" is going to be a lot more credible to police than you are when you are stopped because you match the "suspect's" description and you are found to have a concealed handgun in your possession. Before you deliberately expose your gun in public, ask yourself "is this worth going to jail for?" The only time this question should warrant a "yes" response is when an adversary has at least both the ABILITY and INTENT and is actively seeking the OPPORTUNITY to do you great harm.

Also, remember that proper concealment of a weapon is more than just covering it up so that it is not physically visible. You want to remove as much as possible any signs that you are armed. For example, you would not wear a tight T-shirt that shows the lines of your gun printing through it, especially if that T-shirt has a firearm related logo or statement on it. Also, a black nylon fanny-pack or a photographer's vest may, in certain areas or in certain modes of dress tell any half-educated person that you are packing a gun. It is also not usually a very good idea to let too many people know that you carry a gun. This fact should be limited to your immediate family and select friends who are "gun people" also. Please, for your sake and the sake of others around you - be discreet!

5. DON'T LET YOUR EMOTIONS GET THE BEST OF YOU.

When you are armed, you must realize that you just lost your right to initiate ANY type of confrontation that could possibly escalate into a violent encounter. You must now have a very mellow attitude on life and your fellow mankind.

You just lost the right to flip off the motorist who just cut you off in traffic. You have to ignore the scumbag who just "wolf-whistled" at your wife/girlfriend. If someone wants to pick a fight with you, you lost the right to respond in any way other than a kind, friendly manner while walking away. As an armed person you must be more likely and willing to avoid trouble that an unarmed person would be. You have the legal and moral obligation of de-escalating any situation that you are presented with unless you are faced by someone displaying all three of the "attack potential" elements. Carrying a loaded firearm among your fellow citizens is an awesome responsibility that is not to be taken lightly.

Remember, once you strap on your weapon, you must carry with it a great measure of discretion and judgment, along with an easy-going attitude.

thanks for the headsup.

If it's about our Second Amendment rights, Joe, I'm here as always.
Thanks!

Mine got a final ride on a 1.25 pound M112 block of of C-4.......too many goodies on that disc per se !

Stay Safe !

Har-har! I'd like to see the NSA put that particular Humpty-Dumpty back together again!

Good point. It is true that society thinks that just because an individual is a man, he is supposed to be able to physically overcome his assailant. That pressure makes it more traumatic for the male, in addition to the fact he will probably have to go through a trial to prove his innocence.

Thanks for adding me to your ping list, Puppage. I hadn't seen this, and found it interesting.

Oops! Looks like I thanked the wrong person! Anyway, thanks for adding me to your list.

I hadn't seen this

That's the problem with gun FACTS...most don't see it because the media won't report it. Interesting none the less.

It is true that society thinks that just because an individual is a man, he is supposed to be able to physically overcome his assailant.

One solution to the legal costs involved with a justified shooting incident is to set up an insurance program for law-abiding citizens who have their CCW. This would protect the assets of what I'll call "average" citizens who get into just the type situation we've been talking about.

This is on my list of to-do projects.