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North Korea Will Nuke American Cities if Provoked
Korea Web Weekly ^ | 5.3.03

Posted on 05/05/2003 12:29:07 PM PDT by Enemy Of The State

North Korea Will Nuke American Cities if Provoked


Korea WebWeekly (May 03, 2003) -- Dr. Kim Myong Chul, Japanese-borne expert on North Korea's military has stated in the past that North Korea has more than 100 nukes, including hydrogen bombs.  In a series of statements recently, Dr. Kim asserts that the nukes will strike American cities if the Bush administration imposes economic sanctions or other hostile moves against North Korea.

In sharp contrast with his past practices, Dr. Kim states that he is speaking for North Korea: he is relaying North Korea's official message to the Bush administration.  During the last meeting of North Korean and American officials in Beijing, the North Korea's chief delegate told his American counterpart that North Korea had at least one nuke.  The US CIA estimates that North 'may have one or two crude nuclear devices.'  

Dr. Kim states that the nukes were built in the 1980's before North Korea signed the Agreed Framework in 1994. It is likely that the US CIA knew about North Korea's nuclear capability but decided to cover it up with its persistent "North Korea may have 1-2 crude devices."  It should be recalled that the US CIA failed to predict the Korean War of 1950 and also the intervention of Chinese forces.  The failure was due to not any lack of intelligence but incorrect analysis of the mountain of intelligence.  

Dr. Kim stated that North Korea's technical capacity of delivering nuclear weapons on missiles was proven by Pakistan's nuclear tests and missile test-fires.  Pakistan claims that it has developed its nukes and missiles on its own.  The bottom-line is that neither North nor Pakistan has violated any international agreements.

US Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld believes North Korea does not have the capability to strike American cities and North Korea is bluffing.  Dr. Kim believes that North Korea will demonstrate its capacity to strike America: it may conduct a series of nuclear explosions and test-fire an ICBM over the US homeland.  The US CIA claims that North Korea's ICBM, Taepodong II, failed in its maiden test and that North Korea's ICBM test site was destroyed in a failed engine test. Recently, the warhead of North Korea's 'failed' ICBM was discovered in Alaska. 

The US hawks led by Rumsfeld believe that Kim Jong Il and Saddam Hussein are cut from the same cloth and that Kim will go the way of Saddam.  It should be noted that when the chips were down, Saddam's 'supporters' deserted his sinking ship and few Iraqis opted to die for him.  The fact of the matter is that the great majority of Saddam's supporters were opportunists and sycophants out to make a fast buck using Saddam's name.  Rumsfeld is convinced that few of Kim's supporters will die for him and that shake Kim's regime a little and he will be gone.

Dr. Kim asserts that Kim Jong Il is no Saddam and that North Korea's military and people will fight to the end and die for Kim; and that unlike Iraq, North Korea does have the military capability and the will to inflict fatal blows not only to the US bases in Japan, Okinawa, and Guam, but also the US homeland.   According to Dr. Kim, North Korea will demonstrate its military capability to hit the US homeland in the very near future.  



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To: detsaoT
Nevermind my dislexia.

05/03 != 03/05.

I will go drink more coffee now.

:) ttt

41 posted on 05/05/2003 1:16:38 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: Enemy Of The State
Not even the Russian, when they had the ADAVANTAGE in nuclear weapons, were stupid enough to threaten us so blatantly.

IIRC, the "We will bury you" speech of Kruschev's was about as belligerent and blatant as they chose to speak at us.

42 posted on 05/05/2003 1:17:27 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: stimpyone
Awful quick to accept kim myung chul's word for it, aren't you?
43 posted on 05/05/2003 1:18:52 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Enemy Of The State
Dr. Kim asserts that Kim Jong Il is no Saddam and that North Korea's military and people will fight to the end and die for Kim

How do you fight a nuclear warhead?

44 posted on 05/05/2003 1:19:51 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: Enemy Of The State
California!? New Mexico?! Nevada!? Oregon!? Washington State!?

No loss there. Those states might as well be know as the "Socialist State of..."

45 posted on 05/05/2003 1:21:32 PM PDT by Luke
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To: seleniteswells
This is ridiculous. We have destroyers parked outside Korea. If he launches anything, it immediately gets shot down. 10 of our missiles are fired. His missiles would not leave Korean air space!

You want to take the chance that they work right? To me the key is how much intelligence we really have on the program. If we know that they don't actually have any nukes, then we should strike their facilities. If we know where nukes are, then we should strike them. The hard part is if we know they have multiple nukes deployed in unknown positions.

46 posted on 05/05/2003 1:21:55 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: keithtoo
Chia Joe.
47 posted on 05/05/2003 1:22:38 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: detsaoT
Every source I found with this "warhead of a long-range missile" sites this as a main source.

http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200303/kt2003030417272311970.htm

I do remember a thread here at FR about this months ago. It was around the same time as the shuttle exploding on reentry....many of us at that time wondered if that shuttle was hit.
48 posted on 05/05/2003 1:23:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: cynicom
This guy is a madman. Even Russia and China were not stupid enough to want to obliterate their own countries.

Hitler, on the otherhand, was. How many lives are you willing to wager about how nuts this guy is?

49 posted on 05/05/2003 1:24:03 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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To: detsaoT
archives
50 posted on 05/05/2003 1:24:40 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Calpernia; All
http://www.kimsoft.com/1997/nk-sate.htm
51 posted on 05/05/2003 1:28:52 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: detsaoT
Yeah, it was on Fox this morning with quote from Rummy.

I don't know about the warhead in Alaska.
52 posted on 05/05/2003 1:30:25 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: Rodney King
I'm not sure if Aegis destroyers can shoot down ICBMs.
53 posted on 05/05/2003 1:31:15 PM PDT by johnb838 (Understand the root causes of American Anger)
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To: azhenfud
Found it. Thanks for the insight, I've marked my new thread on the topic as a "duplicate" with the AM team. I've also filed my newly-learned experience with the FR search tool for later use.

:) ttt

54 posted on 05/05/2003 1:33:08 PM PDT by detsaoT
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To: johnb838
They can theoretically catch them early in the launch phase, but of course it has never been battle-tested.
55 posted on 05/05/2003 1:34:47 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: detsaoT
Welcome.
Look at the link I gave in #51 and follow with NK's nuclear arsenal link at the page bottom. If true, NK could very well have 100+ warheads and the means to deliver them.
56 posted on 05/05/2003 1:38:02 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: Enemy Of The State
At the first test of such a missile, the whole of North Korea should be turned into a glass lake. If the collateral damage includes South Korea, so be it. We cannot have this threat.
58 posted on 05/05/2003 1:44:41 PM PDT by harrym
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To: johnb838; Alamo-Girl
The U.S.S. Lake Erie, and her sister ship the Port Royal aegis cruisers already can. It requires modifications to both software and hardware. It also needs the new Standard Mark 3 interceptor. It is already a proven theater theater-missle interceptor, and is a capable Midcourse interceptor of bigger stuff.


59 posted on 05/05/2003 1:46:13 PM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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To: Rodney King; Alamo-Girl
FYI

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020613-N-0000X-002 Pacific Missile Range Facility, Kauai, Hawaii (Jun 13, 2002) -- The Missile defense Agency (MDA) and the U.S. Navy announced a successful flight test in the continuing development of the Sea-Based Midcourse (SMD) element of the Ballistic Missile Defense System capability. Flight Mission Three (FM-3) involved the firing of a developmental Standard Missile Three (SM-3) from the Aegis cruiser USS Lake Erie (CG 70) to intercept an Aries ballistic missile target launched for the Pacific Missile Range Facility on the island of Kauai, Hawaii. U.S. Navy photo. (RELEASED)
 
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USS Lake Erie Conducts Successful Missile Intercept At Sea
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By USS Lake Erie Public Affairs

USS LAKE ERIE, At Sea (NNS) -- For the second time this year, USS Lake Erie (CG 70) successfully intercepted a ballistic target in space using the Navy's newest missile, the SM-3. On June 13 at 3:29 p.m. Hawaiian Standard Time, Lake Erie launched the SM-3, tracked the missile throughout launch and recorded its intercept with the ballistic missile target. This event, designated as Flight Mission 3 (FM-3) was performed using no external sensors for mission execution and was conducted by the crew of Lake Erie.

FM-3 took place on the Pacific Missile Range Facility (PMRF) off the island of Kauai. Maj. Gen. Peter Franklin, deputy director of Missile Defense Agency (MDA) said, "This latest intercept from Lake Erie is yet another successful step along the path for a layered missile defense against a real and increasing threat. We are still in the early development of the capability, but the entire Navy team which includes the crew, program management, government employees and contractors are proving themselves up to the task."

This mission was the third major ballistic missile event the ship has participated in this year. The first event, designated Flight Mission 2, took place in January also off the coast of Kauai. While not officially envisioned as an intercept mission, the crew's performance exceeded all expectations and resulted in a direct impact with the target. The second major event, Systems Integration Test II (SIT II) occurred in April and was conducted near the Marshall Islands. SIT II was a Joint Missile Defense exercise which involved multiple Navy ships and Army land based defense sites and successfully demonstrated the Navy's role in defending the United States against future threats. Upon the crew's return to Pearl Harbor on May 12, Lake Erie began training for this latest mission as well as continuing to hone her skills as a deployable, combat-ready ship.

Lake Erie is one of the few ships in the Navy that can call herself a Hawaiian native. Commissioned in Pearl Harbor on July 24, 1993, Lake Erie has been homeported there ever since. Her crew of 400 has been working hard at fulfilling their dual mission as the lead ship in the Navy's Ballistic Missile Defense efforts while simultaneously maintaining their status as a fully-deployable combat ready unit.

Operations Specialist Seaman Peter Pennock said, "I am glad to be a small part of one of our nation's greatest defenses."

Being on the cutting edge of technology and pioneering a new warfare area for the Navy has been exciting for the crew of Lake Erie. Lt. Russell J. Corpron, tactical action officer, said, "It is a tremendous honor to be able to participate in pioneering missile defense from the sea. The success of FM-3 continues to enhance our ability to defend the homeland as well as allied nations."

The overall feeling in combat after the launch as described by Ensign Keil Storms, "was a cataclysmic euphoria mixed with a sudden sense of relief for a job well done in the role of Theater Ballistic Missile Defense (TBMD)."

For more information on USS Lake Erie, go to www.lake-erie.navy.mil.

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60 posted on 05/05/2003 1:48:30 PM PDT by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming! Let's Drown France!)
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