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Booking Bennett
NRO ^ | 5/5/2003 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 05/05/2003 11:02:18 AM PDT by moneyrunner

I guess Aesop's Fables are now wrong.

You see, Bill Bennett's Book of Virtues contained various moral lessons from Aesop's Fables. So, if Bill Bennett has made a mistake in his personal life, he must have been wrong about the educational utility of everything in his book. And, come to think of it, every other virtue and moral and fable and story he ever promoted, advanced, or advocated must be wrong now as well. It's okay for kids to do drugs now, too, I suppose. And I guess it's okay for the president of the United States to enforce sexual-harassment laws while he plays the Sultan and the Slave Girl with an intern and then lies about it under oath. Hell, it must be okay for terrorists to blow up the World Trade Center now.

This sea change is all because Bill Bennett plays high-stakes video poker from midnight to 6:00 AM.

That seems to be the upshot of Joshua Green's and Jonathan Alter's newsitorials about Bill Bennett's gambling.

I find it hard to recall a more asinine and intellectually shameless "gotcha" story in my adult lifetime.

Before I sound like I'm protesting too much, let me get all of the full-disclosure and "yes, but" stuff out of the way. I'm a big believer in the looking-for-trouble school of life. Bennett bet millions in an environment where he had to know getting caught would likely get him in a lot of trouble. I think Bennett gambles too much and I completely understand why opponents of gambling and decent people generally are disappointed in Bennett. Also, I should note that I don't know Bennett that well. I've had one lunch with him and a total of maybe 20 minutes of conversation with him beyond that. I am close friends with some of his close friends. I've known about his gambling for years (though certainly not the dollar amounts) and I've been astounded by both the media's failure to catch him and the recklessness of Bennett's behavior — not the moral recklessness, necessarily, but the political recklessness. Many liberals despise Bill Bennett and — until now — their potshots rested on such inanities as his weight and his success. Now, fair or not, many liberal pundits will make snide comments about Bennett's gambling in a quasi-McCarthyite way — "Billy the Greek" or some such — as if they are alluding to some scandal we all know about that need not be explained.

But there is no scandal. Yes, Bennett made mistakes. And yes, I can surely see why some religious conservatives who take a dim view of gambling might be disappointed in the man. But I can assure you that any man — or woman — held in high esteem will disappoint the public in one way or another when scrutinized. "Disappointment," however, is not a standard taught at the Columbia School of Journalism. Usually, to have caused a "scandal," a public figure is supposed to have broken the law, lied, cheated, stolen, been hypocritical, or victimized someone in some significant way. But no one has charged any of these things. The only conceivable victims here are the Bennett family, and a little bird tells me that they'll do just fine. The same bird tells me that Alter and Green couldn't give a fig about Bennett's family. As for hypocrisy, neither author mentions the word.

Indeed, the stunner of the story — that Bennett wagered $8 million over the last decade — isn't even as stunning as Green and Alter desperately want it to be. There isn't any evidence that he lost $8 million dollars, only that he's bought $8 million in chips over a decade. If, as is more likely, his losses are half that, he'd have spent less than what numerous movie stars and CEOs spend on their country estates, private jets, and divorces.

Even the authors of the articles admit that the only thing Bennett has done is spend a lot of money on something you wouldn't expect Bill Bennett to be spending his money on. In other words, the "news" here is not that a "moralizer" or "virtuecrat" has betrayed his convictions, broken the law, or anything of the sort. The news here is that he likes to have a good time in a perfectly legal and unhypocritical way. But, the manner in which he has a good time shocks liberals who think "moralizers" can't enjoy life. We don't drink, except maybe in that bitter-white-guy way. We don't tell dirty jokes except perhaps as racists or sexists. We're either prudes or hypocrites or both. And so, when a prominent conservative "moralist" ends up behaving in a way that seems inappropriate in the light of liberal assumptions about conservatives, it must be newsworthy. If that behavior embarrasses him in front of religious conservatives all the better.

In fact, you can always tell there's a hit job in the works when the victim is criticized for not being hypocritical. "The popular author, lecturer and Republican Party activist speaks out, often indignantly, about almost every moral issue except one — gambling," writes Alter in Newsweek. "It's not hard to see why." Green is windier on this point, but writes, "If Bennett hasn't spoken out more forcefully on an issue that would seem tailor-made for him, perhaps it's because he is himself a heavy gambler." In other words, if Bennett had spoken out against gambling he'd have been denounced for hypocrisy. And if Bennett had spoken in favor of gambling, he'd have been denounced for defending his preferred vice. If he's in the crosshairs for A, he'd surely be in the crosshairs for not-A as well.

But the real sign that this is payback of a kind can be found in Green's comparisons to impeachment. Green slyly notes that Bennett "gambled throughout impeachment" as if this somehow compounds Bennett's iniquity. Excuse me, but what does one have to do with the other? Casino gambling, as Green notes, is state-sanctioned in 28 states. Throw in lotteries and you can count on one hand the number of states that don't endorse gambling. Meanwhile, lying under oath, "sleeping" with interns, minting bogus legal privileges to protect one's private conduct, etc., are not — to the best of my knowledge — sanctioned in any state. Local governments do not put up billboards reading "Live Your Dreams: Boink the Interns." Bennett is not in charge of enforcing the laws on gambling, the way Clinton was in charge of enforcing sexual-harassment laws. Bennett never promised the country in a 60 Minutes interview during a presidential campaign that he would never gamble again. I could go on, but ultimately the only similarity between the two cases is the one imposed on it by those who dislike "moralizing" conservatives.

WE'RE ALL HYPOCRITES NOW

This brings me to why these articles bother me so much. First of all, the real hypocrites here are the authors. Jonathan Alter and The Washington Monthly expended a lot of energy over the Clinton years making the case that private sins are off-limits, even when they affect public acts. Apparently, this is only the case for public figures they like. If you believe that personal privacy is the sanctum sanctorum of liberal democracy, you have to believe that's the case for people you dislike too. If you don't, then you simply believe privacy is something for the good guys.

Now, I don't agree with that. If Bennett were running for office, for example, his gambling would certainly be fair game. As it would be if Bennett had been either a pro-gambling crusader or an anti-gambling crusader. But he's not. This raises the first of many ironies. Bennett's gambling, as a private citizen, justifies public exposure according to his critics. But, they say, Clinton's adultery — never mind the steamer trunk of lies and other sins he lugged into the Oval Office — should have been off-limits. At first glance, this equation would seem to imply that quietly participating in a perfectly legal and state-promoted activity out of public view is a graver sin than rogering the 'terns in the Oval Office and committing perjury to conceal the act (see Jonathan Last for more on this point).

Say whatever you want about how much Bennett was asking for this, it doesn't excuse the hypocrisy of those who say that private vices should be off-limits. If you believe the private acts of homosexuals, recreational drug users, Wiccans, etc., are off limits, you should believe the private lives of upright Catholics aren't fair game either. Some anti-impeachment liberals get this. Peter Beinart, editor of The New Republic, said Sunday on CNN:

I don't like William Bennett, but I actually agree mostly with Jonah. . . . This is something he did in his private life, and I'm the kind of liberal who believes that basically what people do in their private lives, unless there's some blatant, serious hypocrisy, is really not anyone's business.

WE'RE ALL "MORALIZERS" NOW, TOO

But the biggest reason I find these Bennett articles so troublesome is what they reveal about the kind of society we're building. Hypocrisy is bad, but it's not the worst vice in the world. If I declared "murder is wrong" and then killed somebody, I would hope that the top count against me would be homicide, not hypocrisy. Liberal elites — particularly in Hollywood — believe that hypocrisy is the gravest sin in the world, which is why they advocate their own lifestyles for the entire world: Sleep with whomever you want, listen to your own instincts, be true to yourself, blah, blah, blah. Our fear of hypocrisy is forcing us to live in a world where gluttons are fine, so long as they champion gluttony.

In fact, let's take gluttony as an example. Let's say that Bennett is guilty of the sin of gluttony. Having had lunch with him, this is not a wild-eyed hypothesis. Does that mean Bennett would be a more admirable person if he advocated that we all become overeaters? Bennett reasonably compares gambling to drinking alcohol (another form of gluttony). Should Bennett go on Larry King Live and celebrate the joys of crapulence? That's the logical upshot of Green's Washington Monthly piece (and Josh Marshall's defense of it). If we speak out against any vice we must not only speak out against all of them, we must not be guilty of any of them — even the ones we ourselves do not see as a vice. And if we are guilty, we should defend our sin, own it, celebrate it, even to the point of claiming it was never a sin at all. Because if we don't, we will be guilty of hypocrisy.

Take Madonna. Not to put too fine a point on it: She was a slut and she preached the joys of sluttiness to everyone, rich and poor, young and old. That made her rich and something of a feminist hero because she was an "authentic" slut, feeling no guilt or shame about it. Today, with millions upon millions in the bank she says she's not only given up her trampy ways, she realizes she was wrong all along. And, again, she's being saluted for it in profiles and interviews throughout the media (this is something I started complaining about years ago — see here and here).

So does this mean that being a slut was a good thing when Madonna said it was a good thing? Were the 16-year-old girls who followed her example in 1985 right for following it then? Were the consequences of following Madonna's example — pregnancy, AIDS, even (shudder) low self-esteem — somehow nonexistent back then because only the "moralizers" were warning about them? Or could it just possibly mean that the "moralizers" —who were sneered at by the mainstream press — were right all along and that Madonna is only now coming to her senses? Madonna can afford her sins. She says she can "handle" motherhood while at the same time bragging that she's never changed a diaper.

Well, Bennett can afford his sins, too. But just as a glutton would be a moral fool to champion gluttony to someone with a heart condition, Bennett understands that a gambler would be a moral fool to champion gambling to people who cannot afford it. Not so, though, according to Green:

Bennett is a wealthy man and may be able to handle losses of hundreds of thousands of dollars per year. Of course, as the nation's leading spokesman on virtue and personal responsibility, Bennett's gambling complicates his public role. Moreover, it has already exacted a cost. Like him or hate him, William Bennett is one of the few public figures with a proven ability to influence public policy by speaking out. By furtively indulging in a costly vice that destroys millions of lives and families across the nation, Bennett has profoundly undermined the credibility of his word on this moral issue.

You might have missed the word "furtively" there. Furtive means "secretly" or "in stealth." The clear implication being that Bennett would have been less guilty of whatever it is he's guilty of if he hadn't been "furtive" about it. This is 100 percent wrong. His furtiveness is morally redeeming, not damning. The hypocrisy fetishists seem to believe that our role models and spokesmen should be perfect — perfect in their sinfulness or perfect in their saintliness. And, at all times they should be proselytizers of both. What a morally unserious and dangerous way to organize a society.

Bennett is a big, sloppy Irish Catholic guy from Brooklyn who believes in old-fashioned morality and decency. He's not perfect, but he's been focusing our attention on the right things. When charged with hypocrisy, Max Scheler — the moral philosopher who dallied with the ladies — responded that the sign pointing to Boston doesn't have to go there. America is a better place because Bennett pointed in the right direction. Tearing him down is a sorry, pitiful, and deeply hypocritical way for supposed champions of privacy to tear down the man instead of his arguments. If you disagree, fine. Tell me where he was wrong. Don't tell me that the messenger is a sinner — we all knew that. Tell me what's wrong with the message. What passage in The Book of Virtues was invalidated when Bennett put the first $500 chip into the machine?

Oh, and one last thing. You might have noticed that I keep putting quotation marks around the word "moralizer." I do this for the simple reason that Green, Alter, Marshall, and the legions of other liberals who don't like "moralizers" are shocking hypocrites if not outright liars. Everyone moralizes. The suggestion that liberals aren't moralizers is so preposterous it makes it hard for me to take any of them seriously when they wax indignant about "moralizers." Almost everyday, they tell us what is moral or immoral to think and to say about race, taxes, abortion — you name it. They explain it would be immoral for me to spend more of my own money on my own children when that money could be spent by government on other peoples' children. In short, they think moralizing is fine. They just want to have a monopoly on the franchise.


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To: Austin Willard Wright
It is incredible the number of people who are defending Bennett on this site. Just on the basis that gambling isn't illegal.

This guy has made a lot of money selling books about morality and virtue to people who collectively consider spending his kind of money and time in a casino as being morally wrong and having no virtue whatsoever. He's a con man. Plain and simple. He's selling what he doesn't believe in because he see's a buck in it. It's an act... a facade. It's not illegal... but by his own descriptions of morality and virtue it isn't right.

101 posted on 05/05/2003 12:50:59 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: JohnGalt
Just point me to one moral person on the Left.

Just one.

That's why they want this to be a story. Our side does know the difference between right and wrong, and the driving force of morality is what makes up the base.

The Left has no such moral compass.
102 posted on 05/05/2003 12:50:59 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Cacophonous
At one point, it was not impossible to be a Democrat and be conservative. I guess that even now, it is technically possible to be marginally conservative (Zell Miller, for example) and be a Democrat. But 30 years ago it was not that unheard of.

To be honest, I have never really heard Bennett speak much about himself.

103 posted on 05/05/2003 12:51:08 PM PDT by William McKinley (You're so vain, you probably think this tagline's about you)
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To: William McKinley
Conservatives do not spend 8 million dollars in a casino.
104 posted on 05/05/2003 12:52:29 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: onedoug
One has nothing to do with the other.

You should be careful mixing things in with the Bible that aren't there.
105 posted on 05/05/2003 12:53:05 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: borkrules
Your damn right!!!!! Bill Bennett has done nothing wrong for one and for another we need him. He gets in the ring and scrapes with the liberals. Better than most of the republicans in the Congress...who roll over and play dead rather than fight a dim over any issue. If it wern't for the likes of DeLay, Santorum and a few others, the Republicans in Congress could be called "the other Democrats in Congress".

Like my Dad used to say when I screwed up in school..."Send ya to school..you eat your damn books"!! That's what we do with our own...."Oh I'm so holy...I don't gamble....so if you do...GET OUT OF THE PARTY"!! Wake up people...the enemy is on the left.....
106 posted on 05/05/2003 12:54:14 PM PDT by Ga Rob ("Life's tough...it's even tougher when you're stupid"....The Duke)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Sounds like quasi-philosophical sophistry to me.

I think you could easily turn it around and say:

Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue

If vice does not exist or has no power, then it would be unnecessary for people to pretend that there are vices. In that pretence (hypocrisy), therefore, virtue makes an acknowledgement of the power of vice.

This works because there seems to be some dispute as to whether or not hypocrisy is a vice or a virtue.

But not to me. Simply, hypocrisy is lying. It is, therefore, a vice.

107 posted on 05/05/2003 12:54:27 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: moneyrunner
Great post, moneyrunner. Jonah nailed it right on target!

Re: the "stolen info" statement. No doubt it was. I never signed a FOIA release authorization when I cashed in a bunch of "mega" chips in our country's "Legal" adult gambling establishments.

This has legs. To all: Call Vegas, Foxwoods, New Orleans, Mobile, Atlantic City and demand they release their privacy statement obligations. (the IRS doesn't count, when one wins "big", the house has you sign some forms, which are then sent to the federal "confiscation" department, aka the IRS, Me thinks it's still embedded with latent socialists and Toon rump-swabs).

This entire episode smacks of the leftist-democRAT, ant-conservative hate machine's machinations. btw, I have never met Bill Bennett, nor sent one red-cent to "Empower America"...but I stand with him against this leftist attempt and their politics of "personal destruction"...

Mustang sends from "Malpaso" News.

108 posted on 05/05/2003 12:55:19 PM PDT by Mustang (Evil Thrives When Good People Do Nothing!)
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To: JohnGalt
And Jesus spoke in front of morally questionable groups.

I wonder what you would say about him?
109 posted on 05/05/2003 12:55:39 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty
Just point me to one moral person on the Left.

My Aunt Caroline, in Ohio. A lovely lady, liberal as the day is long, but not immoral in any sense. Just deeply, profoundly wrong.

110 posted on 05/05/2003 12:56:05 PM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: mabelkitty
And Jesus spoke in front of morally questionable groups. I wonder what you would say about him?

But he didn't make 20k a night doing it.

111 posted on 05/05/2003 12:57:03 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: cgk
You miss the point. Vegas keeps 24 cents on every dollar gambled in its machines. That is their business model; that is not a point that can be debated; by knowing his losses you can calculate, roughly how much was wagered as statitics will play out over time and certainly 10 years is a long time enough time.

Lets say he only lost $4 million, that tells you he probably played about $16 million in the slot machines. Now, what the other folks were saying is why didn't he play a game lick blackjack where the odds suddenly rush back towards the educated player who can count cards and certainly the game to learn how to play if you are going to attend casino's frequently.

Bennett's response was BS. At a $500 table he would be treated with respect and there is no table talk by rule.

You see, he is a phony even to the gambling community.


If it does not make sense to you, that's fine, but there are couple people on this thread who understand the gambling industry.
112 posted on 05/05/2003 12:57:09 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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To: Ken H
And yet it isn't your business.

This information was STOLEN FROM A CASINO'S FINANCIAL DATABASE! It isn't our business, and he doesn't have to justify it.
113 posted on 05/05/2003 12:57:38 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: dfwgator
What is so "un-virtuous" about gambling??? Oh I know, it says in the bible not to do it, that's right. He has the money to lose let him lose it. By the way, there will be no consequences for this. The liberals have never bought a Bill Bennett book...as for the people who now hate him because he gambles...who cares.
114 posted on 05/05/2003 12:58:42 PM PDT by Ga Rob ("Life's tough...it's even tougher when you're stupid"....The Duke)
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To: mabelkitty
B-I-N-G-O
115 posted on 05/05/2003 12:59:45 PM PDT by AbsoluteJustice (Pounding the world like a battering ram. Forging the furnace for the final grand slam!!)
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To: cgk
Your points are lost on many. If someone plays $1000 a hand at blackjack, and they spent 6 hours a day doing it, it adds up quite quickly. Imagine 4 minutes a hand (and that's erring on the side of caution). That would be 90 grand in one day, or 9 million if you did it 10 times a year for 10 years.

That does NOT mean you are losing that 9 million. It merely means you wagered, in total 9 million dollars. In the course of my life, I have probably wagered several thousand dollars. I have come nowhere near losing that much.

If Bennett is popping $100's into slots, at probably 30 seconds a hand, you can easily see how it adds up...

116 posted on 05/05/2003 1:00:04 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Austin Willard Wright
BTW, since you apparently determine your morality on the basis of what is "illegal" or "legal" I suspect that poker-playing Bill has violated a few local and state laws against that activity in his life. Wanna bet?

No, actually I don't determine my own morality using "legal" vs. "illegal." I was making the point that one has nothing to do with the other.

I actually tend to believe that pot-smoking does aid America's enemies - unless you are growing your own. Buying it from the Mexican Mafia (the dirt available here in LA) isn't exactly without reproach, socially.

However, IMHO, this is less a story about gambling or pot-smoking or any other vice (I've seen cig smoking and drinking on these threads also)... than it is about hypocrisy.

These stories were written to expose Bennett's hypocrisy. Of which I see none. And they serve, and were written for, only those who believe Conservatives are hypocritical bible-thumping (see: Falwell, Pres. Bush) children-poisoning (see Democrat ads about arsenic in water) women-hating (see Pres Bush's views on abortion; and "Republican") racist (see Lott) homophobic (see Santorum) rich (see Bennett) white (see all of the above) people.

These are the same people who defended Clinton abuses of the law (abuses is the mildest form of the word I can use here), while shrilly crying "It is his own private business." All I see is hypocrisy here, and it is not Bennett's.

117 posted on 05/05/2003 1:00:25 PM PDT by cgk (Liberal truisms are the useless children of hindsight.)
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To: dfwgator
Why? Sam Walton wasn't, and yet there is Wal-Mart. Dr. Laura isn't, and yet she makes millions.

He isn't an elected official - he is a business man selling what he knows through experience. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

Or would you rather be a member of a party whose sleazy benefactor is looking for nude pictures of the President's two daughters? Which would you rather be associated with?
118 posted on 05/05/2003 1:01:01 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: Ga Rob
as for the people who now hate him because he gambles...who cares.

That's like saying "as for the people who now hate the dixie chicks because of their statements, who cares...."

Bennett's problem is the same as the dixie chicks. His market is people who do care about virtue and morality and don't equate those with spending a lot of time and money in casino's. He has offended his own market, much the way the Dixie chicks offended theirs.

119 posted on 05/05/2003 1:01:24 PM PDT by kjam22
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To: mabelkitty
You are putting Jesus and Bill Bennett on the same par?

You are going to hysterical ends to defend this guy; that is the story I am interested in. Why?

(Hint: Jesus did not get paid to speak to morally questionable groups.)
120 posted on 05/05/2003 1:01:26 PM PDT by JohnGalt (They're All Lying)
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