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Hillary wants to wait until '08, but she may be called on sooner
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | May 4, 2003 | ROBERT NOVAK

Posted on 05/04/2003 3:11:35 AM PDT by sarcasm

It is not merely the ranting of radio talk show hosts and their callers.

It is not just daydreaming by political junkies. It's still a long shot, but it really could happen.

Hillary in '04!

No, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York is not about to announce her candidacy for president in 2004, joining the jostling pack of Democratic candidates elbowing each other and participating in their first debate this weekend in South Carolina. Her reputation for keeping secrets is well-known, but everybody believes she is planning to sit out 2004 and aiming for the 2008 election to run for president.

Nevertheless, Hillary could be propelled, without her volition, into next year's presidential election. The prospect of another Bush-Clinton race--with a younger Bush and a female Clinton--generates hope and fear among Democrats and Republicans alike.

Democrats hope that Mrs. Clinton can duplicate nationally her letter-perfect 2000 campaign for the U.S. Senate but fear she could bring on one of the periodic Democratic washouts, in the mold of George McGovern and Walter Mondale. Republicans hope her premature presidential candidacy could mean ridding themselves of the Clintons at long last, but are frightened by her masterful performance in New York.

The former first lady certainly generates far more attention than the pallid band of announced candidates. This weekend's South Carolina debate will not get a fraction of the media exposure Sen. Clinton will command between now and June 9, the publication date of Living History, her memoir of life as first lady. With hints that it will reveal what Hillary really thinks of Monica Lewinsky--and her husband--an instant runaway best seller is promised.

A book, even one with a first printing of 1 million copies, is no substitute for a political campaign. However, it contributes to a mood of "Hillarymania" that may produce a heady concoction when mixed with two political facts of life.

First, there is no superstar among the eight announced Democratic presidential candidates. There is no charismatic young standard bearer in the mold of John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton or an intriguing, unusual newcomer such as Jimmy Carter. As of today, none of the candidates looks like a winner against George W. Bush.

Second, the Democratic timetable has been moved forward radically, with primary elections earlier and a much higher percentage of delegates to be selected by the end of March.

Those two factors could militate against the usual way the Democratic Party has avoided a deadlock in multi-candidate fields over the past generation. George McGovern in 1972, Jimmy Carter in 1976, Michael Dukakis in 1988 and Bill Clinton in 1992 all started as little-known candidates. But as they won one primary election after another going into the spring, they collected a majority of delegates well before the first gavel opened the national convention.

That could happen again in 2004, but it is much more difficult because of so many primaries compacted early in the year.

Although the odds are still negative, it is now arithmetically possible that no nominee will emerge before the convention begins.

Consider this possible scenario. Rep. Richard Gephardt of Missouri wins the opening round, the caucuses in neighboring Iowa. Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts follows with a victory in the first primary election, in neighboring New Hampshire. South Carolina, the first southern primary, is won by Sen. John Edwards from neighboring North Carolina. Michigan, jumping into the early primary election mix, gives first place to Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut.

Because different winners according to this scenario divide up the primaries, the normal winnowing out process would not occur. If that happens, the Democratic Party will go into its July convention in Boston without a clear winner for the first time since Chicago in 1952 when Illinois Gov. Adlai Stevenson was nominated on the third ballot.

Here looms the brokered convention that journalists and other political junkies have dreamed about for half a century.

Enter Hillary. Assume there has been no economic collapse and President Bush is still riding the crest of military victory in Iraq. Who else would the Democrats turn to but the woman who stood aloof from her husband's escapades, won election in a strange state and then made a mark for herself in the U.S. Senate as a shrewd, industrious freshman member.

It would be an immense gamble for Democrats--the first woman candidate for president and an enormously controversial one at that. Many Republicans anticipate a showdown between Hillary Clinton and George W. Bush as promising the death knell of the Democratic Party. But New Yorkers could remind them of the perils in getting what you wish for.


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To: sarcasm
Hillary is NOT running for Prez or VP in 2004.
21 posted on 05/04/2003 4:33:50 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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Hillary wants to wait until '08, but she may be called on sooner...

Saw that headline and thought...
What?
Satan is calling her back to Hell earlier than 2008???
Is that good news or bad??

22 posted on 05/04/2003 4:35:28 AM PDT by Bon mots
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To: sarcasm
I can see it now with "It Takes a Criminal" onstage accepting the nomination with the Dizzy Chicks playing "Ready to Run" in the background, and William Jefferson Criminal eyeballing Natalie's fiddle while wiping the special sauce from a Big Mac from his bitten lip.
23 posted on 05/04/2003 4:51:01 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: AmericaUnited
Your eyes are fogged-over from “victory disease” junior.

Bush 43 lost the popular vote in 2000 to a block of wood... a sad excuse of a man.

The morons who watch “alphabet” news and “reality” shows will drink up Hillarys' poison kool-aid.

We'll see how clairvoyent you are late next summer.

24 posted on 05/04/2003 5:00:24 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Tis a long way twixt the cup and the lip.”)
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To: Jim Noble
"(I take it as a given that HRC knows she has to run in 2004 or not at all-she is not aging gracefully)."


Bingo! As I see it, only the cosmetic factor will force her hand. Although she is holding it together, barely, on the appearance front, by '08 she will have crumbled horribly.

Whether she is able to view her physical appearance objectively is another matter.
25 posted on 05/04/2003 5:01:55 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: Jim Noble
Jim, you are correct. The export of jobs from America is proceeding at a very rapid pace. The voters will quickly forget Bush's foreign victories if they lose their jobs.

Hillary Clinton is not someone to be underestimated. She is power-mad, ruthless, remorseless and cunning - the kind of politician who is very dangerous in tough economic times.

Throughout history, when people have become economically desperate, their panic has caused them to grasp any piece of politically rotten wood to stay afloat.

26 posted on 05/04/2003 5:11:22 AM PDT by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: PGalt
wiping the special sauce from a Big Mac from his bitten lip.

If it's Bill Clinton, that "special sauce" ain't from no Big Mac! :o)

27 posted on 05/04/2003 5:11:51 AM PDT by Free State Four
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To: Jim Noble
.............Operation Ditch the B*tch.

Love it!

28 posted on 05/04/2003 5:15:58 AM PDT by varon
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To: Jeff Chandler
She'll jump in at the last minute after her flying monkeys in the media demand she save the Party.
29 posted on 05/04/2003 5:22:10 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"I can see it now: Hillary lands on a moving aircraft carrier-on her broom!"


Too funny, Chandler! Thats a good one!!
30 posted on 05/04/2003 5:28:21 AM PDT by Lockbar
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To: Larsen E. Whipsnade
I agree as well. Hillary in '04 is much better than Hillary in '08. First, the stench of that administration is still in the air. Second, her book is going to be a colossal failure.

My in-laws, who are conservative in their thinking, but ALWAYS vote for dems because their unions told them to, will never vote for a Clinton. It was a good thing I was sitting down when my FIL said Clinton was the worst President in his lifetime! He said he did nothing about terrorism and is a liar. He loves what Bush is doing and why not?

31 posted on 05/04/2003 5:28:41 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: johnny7
Spoken like a real loser...
32 posted on 05/04/2003 5:30:19 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Jeff Chandler
Mrs. Clinton vs. Al Sharpton tied in the lead coming into the convention!

To die for.

33 posted on 05/04/2003 5:30:21 AM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: sarcasm
Enter Hillary.

Ughhhhh! Must....control....urge....to....regurgitate!

34 posted on 05/04/2003 5:34:52 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: UCFRoadWarrior
If Hillary is the nominee, look for her to go right after the Presidential Electors The DNC will have a file on everyone of them -- their mortgages, foibles, etc.

!!!!!
35 posted on 05/04/2003 5:36:15 AM PDT by Grand Old Partisan (You can read about my history of the GOP at www.republicanbasics.com)
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To: ricpic
I think the physical appearance factor maybe be a stronger card than any of us think. She looks like a puff faced version of Rocket J. Squirrel right now. (Despite that Princess Di faked photo on her garbage book.) By 2008 she might need to walk around with a Botox drip plugged into the side of her head. It will be interesting to see what happens.
36 posted on 05/04/2003 5:37:06 AM PDT by Lockbar
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To: sarcasm
"the first southern primary, is won by Sen. John Edwards from neighboring North Carolina"
A most unlikely scenario.
37 posted on 05/04/2003 5:53:16 AM PDT by Bahbah (Pray for our Troops)
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To: sarcasm
I say bring it on!!

Barring a house falling on this witch, George W. should be able to mop the floor with her.

The rest of the U.S. is not New York, and I've heard she's not that popular there any longer.

May the best man win.
38 posted on 05/04/2003 6:10:36 AM PDT by wunderkind54
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To: sarcasm

SHRILLARY!

39 posted on 05/04/2003 6:13:16 AM PDT by Rome2000 (Convicted felons for Kerry)
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To: sarcasm
called on by whom? Elenor Roosevelt
40 posted on 05/04/2003 6:13:26 AM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America, treasonous everytime they speak)
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