[Conservative til I die]

Of course, the notion that the True God would chose to work through a bureaucracy of sexually repressed perverts make the idea of logic and fact irrelevent.

The notion that anyone with a brain would listen to what you have to say makes the idea of logic and fact irrelevant.

Go hate Catholics elsewhere.

[donmeaker]

I don't hate Catholics. I used to be one, till I thought about it, and decided that what facts I could put my hands on, and a bit of logic meant that G-d would not work through a human bureaucracy, if He had overweening power.

So the inability for divine power to correct a supposedly divine institution indicates (to me) that its claim to divine influence are false. The only other alternative is that G-d wants pedophiles to molest children, and I don't accept that either. what do you think?

So, no special relationship for the Catholic Church indicates that its teaching is error, to me. Your mileage may differ. Sorry I didn't explain it better before.

I don't want this thread to detract from the main one.