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What Price Beauty? (Accutane hit piece alert)
The Boston Globe Magazine ^ | 4/27/2003 | By Ellen Rafshoon

Posted on 05/02/2003 9:04:41 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:09:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Although Accutane causes birth defects, many acne sufferers love the way the miracle complexion pill makes them look, and so do their doctors. That's why it has become the most widely prescribed birth-defect-causing medicine in the United States.

Many women might be reluctant to reveal their vanities, but Brenda McCoy boldly admits that she's always been concerned about her looks. "I take really good care of myself," says the svelte Orange County mother of four and part-time nurse who's finishing work toward her bachelor's degree at California State University. Despite her hectic schedule, the 40-year-old maintains her figure by running, biking, and power walking.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: accutane; acne; dermatology; dontfallasleep; drugs; fda; medicine; regulation
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To: Lancey Howard
http://www.rocheusa.com/products/accutane/pi.pdf

I do not use Accutane in my practice and instead choose to refer all recalcitrant acne cases to dermatologists in our area. I have little first hand experience with this particular medication because I choose not to write it often.

Quoting the package insert:
"Pediatric patients and their caregivers should be informed that approximately 29% (104/358) of pediatric patients treated with Accutane devleoped back pain. Back pain was severe in 13.5% (14/104) of the cases and occurred at a higher frequency in female than male patients.

Arthalgias were experienced in 22% (79/358) of pediatric patients.

Arthralgias were severe in 7.6% (6/79) of patients. Appropriate evaluation of the musculoskeletal system should be done in patients who present with these symptoms during or after a course of Accutane. Consideration should be given to discontinuation of Accutane if any significant abnormality is found.

41 posted on 05/02/2003 11:13:50 PM PDT by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: ikka
It isn't acne that is scarring this woman's soul. She did not even know for sure that the child she killed did in fact have the mentioned defect.

You are the first in this long thread to mention the ethics of assuming an abortion risk for personal vanity.

How can a woman risk either a birth defect or an abortion for her personal vanity?

I also find it offensive that some try to justify this risk by suggesting the alternative is psychological damage or suicide. Get over it on your own. There are lots of people born "ugly" who will never have such a cure. They lead just as normal lives as the rest of us.

I see some women concocting BS reasons to avoid censure by others, since, of course, there was never a conscience to impinge.

42 posted on 05/02/2003 11:14:14 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: bonesmccoy
I do not use Accutane in my practice and instead choose to refer all recalcitrant acne cases to dermatologists in our area.

I can appreciate that doctor who is not a dermatologist would want to let a specialist be responsible for prescribing accutane. What bothers me is the attitude that bureaucrats in Washington DC, or trial lawyers should want to keep it away from everyone just because there are some really stupid and irresponsible women out there who get pregnant while taking accutane. I was very much aware of accutane before it was approved. I was also aware of the potential side effects before I went on a five month cours of therapy. I can't imagine anyone would want to put up with its side effects if any other therapy worked.

43 posted on 05/02/2003 11:25:48 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Calpernia
"The drug may work. But from the data I saw, is a few pimples worth it to women? I think not. That drug stays in your system."

This is nuts. My dad was a dermatologist and I saw first-hand the benefits of accutane. Riddle me this: why should men be denied access to this drug?

Same question for Thalidomide.

The bottle/box/insert for Accutane has radioactive fluorescent WARNINGS all over them about the dangers to pregnant women. Every doctor in the Universe is highly aware of the potential problem. Why then should it be banned?

As I understand it, Thalidomide was a wonderful sedative--because you virtually could not overdose on it. You'd sleep a long time, but not die as is the case with other sedatives. Again, why deny men access to Thalidomide (let alone people with leprosy)?

--Boris

44 posted on 05/03/2003 12:08:35 AM PDT by boris (Education is always painful; pain is always educational)
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To: boris
As I understand it, Thalidomide was a wonderful sedative--because you virtually could not overdose on it. You'd sleep a long time, but not die as is the case with other sedatives. Again, why deny men access to Thalidomide (let alone people with leprosy)?

Also thalidomide has been used to treat both AIDS and cancer. Although thalidomide was safe as a sedative, it was never tested for potential side effects during pregnancy prior to being recommended for pregnant women. Acctane was specifically tested for the potential for causing birth defects in animals prior to its ever being tested in humans. It was specifically recommended that pregnant women not take accutane nor should women who were taking or recently completed threapy get pregnant. It seems to be the mentality of bureaucrats and trial lawyers that nobody should be exposed to any risk (even voluntarily) that a pregnant woman should not be exposed to.

45 posted on 05/03/2003 12:22:43 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
Ellen Rafshoon is a freelance writer in Atlanta.

Who is apparently paid by the word. Yeesh.

46 posted on 05/03/2003 12:46:16 AM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Hildy
If patients happened to notice, there was a sticker affixed to the pill bottle warning "contraindicated for use in pregnancy."

This is close to borderline slander in my book. I have only known one woman who ever tood accutane. She told me the doctor put her through a virtual horror show of pictures, lectures and release statements before he would agree to write the prescription.

47 posted on 05/03/2003 12:48:00 AM PDT by Ronin
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To: Paleo Conservative
There are cosmetic reasons not to take Accutane. The active chemical in Accutane is a derivative of Vitamin-A, Isotretinoin. Isotretinoin causes hairloss.
If you want to use a Vitamin-A derivative on your face, use Retin-A (tretinoin), which does not have this effect.
48 posted on 05/03/2003 1:39:01 AM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: Kennard; ikka
From the article: ...McCoy was shocked to discover that her IUD had failed. But her dismay turned to joy because she and her husband had been talking about having another child. "You should have seen the look on my husband's face," she says. "He was saying this was meant to be."...

Then a local specialist on birth defects arranged for McCoy to meet the adoptive mother of a retarded child with facial anomalies caused by Accutane exposure. Their discussion clinched her decision to end the pregnancy. Painful as it was, she told her husband: "We can't do this to our family."

After McCoy's abortion, the couple decided never to revisit the idea of expanding their family. And McCoy is back on Accutane. "My skin glows when I'm using it," she says. "I would die if they took it off the market."

I thought the same thing you did, ikka. Why would she have an abortion without first attempting to find out whether or not the child was deformed? Who knows? Maybe, she aborted the child so she wouldn't have to cease taking her Accutane for 9 months. After all, she said she'd "die" without it. Her husband obviously wanted to have more children, but they won't be doing that now nor will they ever consider having children in the future. But, that's OK, because her skin just glows.

Kennard, I was surprised (as you probably were too) that so few posts to this thread addressed what you summed up quite well as "the ethics of assuming an abortion risk for personal vanity".

I don't think this drug should be taken off the market, but I think that it probably will be since it's being used and prescribed so recklessly. It should only be given to patients with severe acne, and all non-sterile women of childbearing age who take Accutane should abstain from sexual intercourse.

49 posted on 05/03/2003 2:08:05 AM PDT by schmelvin
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To: schmelvin
"all non-sterile women of childbearing age who take Accutane should abstain from sexual intercourse."

The operative word here is SHOULD, of course they should, but it's obvious from the article that they don't. Now, our author got the happy abortioner to discuss her happy abortion and glowing skin; not to mention her avoidence of "death" (life/health of the mother exception alert); but I notice the author didn't include any quotes from women whose children died before age one, or who are now institutionlized due to their mother's use of Accutane.

I only suggested accutane be prescribed for men only. But it seems to me that it's simple enough to abstain from sex while taking the drug. I mean, let's face it, abstaining from sex is a pretty simple proposition, no warning labels to read, no bottle caps to unscrew (no pun intended), no devices to use, no messy creams or gels. Or, a woman might choose sterilization if her need to take Accutane over many years was great enough. I can't condone abortion, but abstaining, in the case of a young woman who will take this drug for some limited time; or sterilization for an older woman who wants to be able to always take it, will both certainly prevent pregnancy.

There are many medical conditions and treatments that prevent people from having children. And there are indeed many "ugly" conditions for which there is no treatment. One of those, evidently, is use by one's mother of accutane during pregnancy.

I still don't see why people feel this is a hit-piece, that is to say unfair to Accutane. It does cause these severe, damaging, fatal (even) side effects, that is not in doubt. But, I'm sorry, it just isn't that hard to prevent pregnancy: DON'T HAVE SEX. Then you will have no problems with Accutane. Why is the prevailing ethos of our society that one must be able to have sex at any time, any place, any where, with anyone, and damn the consequences it causes, but, for sure, find someone else to solve any resulting problems, or pay for any pain or difficulty caused by one's sexual activity?

It wasn't my sexual activity that caused my child to be deformed,it was the evil, yet deep pocketed drug companies.

It wasn't my promiscuous homosexual life style that gave me AIDS, it was Republicans.

It wasn't my mid-life affair with the floozy that cost me my fortune and my children's affections, it was my bitch of an ex-wife.

Please, who can't see through this BS?

50 posted on 05/03/2003 4:23:25 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: Paleo Conservative
Bump for beauty.
51 posted on 05/03/2003 5:10:20 AM PDT by waterstraat
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To: boris
Who is denied access to the drug? It is prescribed with the same appropriate measures as anyone other prescription med.
52 posted on 05/03/2003 6:46:43 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: jocon307
Good post!
53 posted on 05/03/2003 6:52:34 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: Hildy
Accutane is a wonder drug for those who need it. They give extensive warnings to women about getting pregnant.

If it causes birth defects then it must cause chromosomal damage, breaks in the DNA. I would never want to use something that does that ---how many of these "beautiful" people will end up with face cancer someday?

54 posted on 05/03/2003 6:57:02 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Calpernia
I will say, I had all 3 of my children with my husband while using birth control. We used birth control cause we weren't planning yet; yet, we had 3 children all are 2 years apart. Not even sure if that supports your arguement. I didn't follow your post.

Well, if you accidentally had three children while using birth control, then yes, that does support one of my points: Birth control is not 100% effective. However, in order to promote their product/agenda, the advocates of birth control have fostered the myth of effectiveness -- the idea that women using birth control can reliably avoid pregnancy (Point #2). This is simply not true over the long run; a method that is 95 percent effective will translate into many thousands of unintended pregnancies when used for many years by a large population. Furthermore, some women who believe that birth control is effective for them are mistaken; their own failure to become pregnant is not due to effective birth control, but to impaired reproductive systems (Point #3). The illusion of freedom from unwanted pregnancy, fostered by the advocates of birth control, has encouraged many girls and women toward promiscuity. The attendant increase in sexually transmitted diseases has meant an increase in the number of women who become infertile as a result of diseases such as chlamydia. And so these women's faith in the Pill is ironic: they think the Pill has protected them from pregnancy, when instead, the Pill has encouraged the promiscuous behavior that resulted in them contract a damaging disease that ensures they will never get pregnant.

I hope I've made my several points clearer.

55 posted on 05/03/2003 7:17:16 AM PDT by Madstrider
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To: Madstrider
Yes, and that also supports the FDA rules that needed to be followed in administering accutane. The birth control was not a green light to administer the drug because of what you just posted.

AND, birth control should NOT be a green light for having sex. Of course my husband and I planned on having children. We were just 'planning' on waiting until residency was over. But, the children were ready and on their own schedule :)
56 posted on 05/03/2003 7:48:14 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: FITZ
That's not the point..plus, I've never heard of "face cancer!". Anyway, accute acne is a very serious thing and ridding oneself of it can be life-altering. I don't know from experience, but I have had friends who have taken this drug and it has changed their lives.
57 posted on 05/03/2003 8:59:52 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
How does accutane work exactly? I'd have to know before I'd put it in or on my body. It sounds to me like it causes breaks in the DNA ---if it can cause DNA breaks to lead to defects in a baby ---why wouldn't it damage your own DNA also? If it's smeared on your face ---what is it doing to your face skin cells? If you ingest it ---what is it doing all throughout your body? I know thaladimide is a great cancer fighting drug now ---but I sure wouldn't like to take it if I didn't already have cancer.
58 posted on 05/03/2003 9:03:50 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Calpernia
I read all your posts. I think you are the one with the "tone." Nobody is disagreeing with the fact that this drug causes birth defects. YOU are the one who used the term "A few pimples" (when you know darn well that's not what we're talking about) and "implied" that the people afflicted with chronic acne need to see psychiatrists instead of taking the drug. That's pretty outrageous.
59 posted on 05/03/2003 9:07:58 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: FITZ
Accutane is a pill. Do you have any idea what accute acne is like (Disclaimer, I don't personally have it, but have had friends who do). It ruins your life. This pill is a miracle, but with downsides. People take it after being informed of all the side effects. Who are we to tell people they shouldn't do this if they know all of the side effects. Ever think that it's worth it to have a chance of living a normal life?
60 posted on 05/03/2003 9:25:40 AM PDT by Hildy
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