[redhead]

...sigh....

[Cold Heat]

fantasy of the tinfoil hat brigade

At least ya got this part right.

[PeaceBeWithYou]

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Say no more!

[Thumper1960]

The louder one "speaks", the more he lies.

[Ciexyz]

Sheesh, is this article typical of the type of gar-bazh we're going to hear from the Demopukes between now and the election ?!?!

[discostu]

How big an moron in Raimondo? He can't even read a calendar. It's not quite 19 months since 9-11 not two years. Freaking idiot.

[DugwayDuke]

I'm quite disappointed that Justin didn't link GW Bush to the coming destruction of the world. "Everyone knows" that the world will end on May the fifteenth as reported here:

http://mdn.mainichi.co.jp/news/20030502p2a00m0fp025001c.html

[gedeon3]

I am convinced; I am switching to the green party.

[Ippolita]

Stuff like 9/11 is not planned in little or no time. Stuff like this takes years of careful planning.
Any blame that might emerge would sit squarely with the Clinton administration.
Yes there may have been, or still be, some 'mole' very high up that could have blabbed the top secret details but chances are that careful observance and study of public documents could put anyone in the same position with very few inside tips. precisely beause we live in a FREE COUNTRY.
As for civilians who may, at times, find their individual liberties curtailed in the 9/11 aftermath I have only one thing to say: welcome to terrorism; this is what it's about.
It's about trained soldiers masquerading as civilians, posing as harmless, infiltrating our daily little lives and using our civil infrastructures to their own ends.
It's about transforming civil society into civil war, where police, and law enforcement, no longer have anything solid to go on.
It's about foreign governments financing, abbetting, aiding, and encouraging, such behaviour on our soil.
It's about waging a war of shadows, a battle of wits; it's about perverting the truth to the point hardly anyone knows were and what it is anymore.
It's about doube agents, triple timing, covert planning, and maximum damage with the least possible expenditure.
So they wanted to go to the theatre, and because of a NYCPD/FBI ops they couldn't. It is an infringement on their civil liberties, no doubt; but: WE ARE AT WAR.
A war we did not seek and did nothing to provoke.
A war which cannot be waged by professional soldiers alone, because the enemy is among us, looks like us, acts like us, but will not respect us as civilians when time to attack comes; and because our state of law does not forsee the use of the army in the civilian sphere.
What their and our reaction should be is the following: today, at this time, a little piece of my liberty is being curtailed by that self same state who gave my the best civil rights package available on the market, I GLADLY and FREELY return this little piece of liberty in the knowledge that this is happenning precisely to MAINTAIN our civil rights/state of law system.
I accept this war-time standard, secure in the knowledge that when this war is over my full measure of civil liberties will be returned to me.
Meanwhile we should all enroll mentaly in the war on terrorism: watch, listen, THINK.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

This isn't some wacko who stands on a street corner handing out crudely printed pamphlets, but a U.S. Senator who is in a position to know...

Make up your mind. Either he's a Democratic Senator or he's not.

[Jay D. Dyson]

Fat, drunk and ZOTTED is no way to go through life, son...

Smartbomb ZOT!

[Pagey]

I have to ask this, if AlGore had won the Presidency and 9/11 occurred, would Justin Raimondo (whoever that is) have written this same article, stating that---and I quote----changing only the word Bush to Gore:

How did 19 hijackers manage to decimate the Pentagon, destroy the World Trade Center, and plunge us into a war without end? That is the question we still don't have an answer to, two years after the worst terrorist attack in American history, and, if the GORE administration has anything to say about it – and they do – we won't have an answer any time soon. An 800-page report written by congressional investigators is being withheld from the American public.

It's obvious this guy has never read this article from The Atlantic Monthly from 1990, The Roots Of Muslim Rage By Bernard Lewis otherwise he might have a better idea how this all occurred. Printed out it comes to about 25 pages, but you will have a wealth of knowledge/historical facts at your fingertips.
For Example I offer this paragraph from the second section:"...THERE ARE other difficulties in the way of accepting imperialism as an explanation of Muslim hostility, even if we define imperialism narrowly and specifically, as the invasion and domination of Muslim countries by non-Muslims. If the hostility is directed against imperialism in that sense, why has it been so much stronger against Western Europe, which has relinquished all its Muslim possessions and dependencies, than against Russia, which still rules, with no light hand, over many millions of reluctant Muslim subjects and over ancient Muslim cities and countries? And why should it include the United States, which, apart from a brief interlude in the Muslim-minority area of the Philippines, has never ruled any Muslim population? The last surviving European empire with Muslim subjects, that of the Soviet Union, far from being the target of criticism and attack, has been almost exempt..."

Remember this was written in 1990 also,almost like he was visualizing the future of Islam vs Every other Society/Religion. I've re-read it several times and started marking it up in yellow and blue ink to get all the great points in that article.If more humans still read like when I was younger, this article could have it's own thread, but not enough people take the time to read anymore.

[plusone]

Interesting post. I read an article recently that cast a shadow over the alleged phone calls made by those victims on the hijacked planes that crashed into the Pentagon, WTC and that field near Pittsburg. A researcher charted a private plance and flew over the small southern Ontario (Canada) city of London. This is a regional financial center with good cell phone networks and coverage. He brought with him a variety of cell phones and had the plane fly at different altitudes, trying the phones to test their reception. I don't remember the cutoff point now, but at around 2000 feet, the phones began to lose their reception, and at 5000 feet, all of them, were useless. This suggests that the alleged calls made from the hijacked planes were not real.