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Germans banned from killing ants
Google | 4-29-03

Posted on 05/02/2003 9:28:21 AM PDT by WKB

Ananova:

Germany has introduced new laws making it illegal to kill ants and appointed 85 ant protection officers to protect the insects.

Homeowners and gardeners who attempt to destroy an anthill or underground nest will face hefty fines if caught.

They must now apply for a permit from their local forestry office to have the ants carefully moved to local woods.

"People with an ant hill in their garden must under no circumstances resort to the use of poison," said senior ant protection officer Dieter Kraemer.

"This is a violation of federal nature protection laws and punishable with hefty fines."

He added that ants were highly valued by German foresters for eating insects which attack trees.

A high ant population can prevent costly and environmentally unfriendly woodland spraying aimed at pests such as the Nun moth which attacks pines and other conifers.


TOPICS: Extended News; Germany; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: animalrights; eussr; green; holdmuhbeer; turass
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To: WKB

61 posted on 05/02/2003 10:56:21 AM PDT by Rate_Determining_Step (US Military - Draining the Swamp of Terrorism since 2001!)
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To: WKB
*LOL*

I think Ananova articles are best taken with a grain of salt.

Tho' I'm always open to confirmation from other sources.
63 posted on 05/02/2003 10:59:57 AM PDT by k2blader (Reason is our soul's left hand, Faith her right. - John Donne)
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To: WKB
I'll bet this only applies to Ayrian ants that can trace their lineage back at least three generations...
64 posted on 05/02/2003 11:04:59 AM PDT by PsyOp
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To: bedolido
strange... just 50 years ago they could kill anything or anyone they wanted.

I watched the History channel show last night about Hitler. It's hard to believe any human being could actually say in speeches that the Jews needed to be done away with. They showed footage of Jews being lined up, shot and then buried in long trenches. Later they were dug up (took two years) and burned so as not to be found. Not to mention of course the concentration camps.

Think I'll go put out some Amdro on the ant hill on my driveway.

65 posted on 05/02/2003 11:07:51 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: southernnorthcarolina; vollmond
How do you know how big my monitor is? What if I've got my 'puter hooked up to my home theater with its 10 foot wide projection screen? Aiiieeeee! That ant's as big as a small dog!

Dang... I thought the scale was part of the pic. Average size: 1-1/4" in length. Not a small dog, but yikes!

Anyway you look at it, the blue guy's out of business:


66 posted on 05/02/2003 11:18:26 AM PDT by Charles Martel
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To: WKB
And how much would it cost?
67 posted on 05/02/2003 11:26:43 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: Ancesthntr
A tea kettle filled with boiling water will work. No chemicals involved.
68 posted on 05/02/2003 11:27:59 AM PDT by ladylib
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To: knighthawk
Ants are very intelligent, and I have found that low doses of radiation make them even smarter.

They have transformed what used to be my living room into a fascinating habitat crisscrossed by highways, overpasses, castles, and depots. Initially there was only one mound, but they have now split into three tribes that are at war with each other.

I am not about to play favorites though. They worship me. Last night they all got together and formed a living sculpture of my likeness.

One tribe, which I call the geos, builds intricate arrangements of what looks, for all the world, like lines of morse code.

It is quite unusual. Mr. Kraemer, who I invited over one evening to seek out his expert opinion, agreed. It is too bad that he stumbled and fell off the viewing plank that traverses the habitat.

The ants have already cleaned off most of the flesh from his bones. I worry that their newly acquired taste will be hard to get rid of.

Some of them are sprouting wings now.
69 posted on 05/02/2003 11:28:56 AM PDT by tictoc (On FreeRepublic, discussion is a contact sport.)
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To: WKB
EXCEPT JEWISH ANTS
70 posted on 05/02/2003 11:30:09 AM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Ursus arctos horribilis
Leave it to the Germans, to pass a law to protect ants, after passing a law to exterminate, Jews, gays, and other undesirables as so deemed by the state.

No law was ever passed like that."

Maybe no "law" was passed...Hitler did away with the legislative body...HE became the law. HE was the state. The state showed propaganda films for years to persuade the people that the mentally ill needed to be euthanized because they were a drain on the economy. They actually showed strong animals killing weaker animals to prove their case (it's done in nature, so it's natural to do with humans).

And from what I saw on the History Channel last night, (unlike Saddam) Hitler never wrote anything down. He gave all his orders in person to avoid being connected with what the underlings carried out.

A "law" may not have been passed but orders were given by ,"the state" to do what Ursus said.

71 posted on 05/02/2003 11:31:44 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: ModelBreaker
Hmm..just the other day i was wondering if Cream of Wheat would kill the ants around my house. Just to spite Germany, I will use cyanide!!! BWUHAHAHAHAHAHA!

(Note to feds: I dont own cyanide and was only my feeble attempt to be humorous. Please dont WACO me)
72 posted on 05/02/2003 11:34:49 AM PDT by smith288 (Thats right, Christianity is exclusive, you have to love animals to be in PETA, is that exclusive?)
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To: KarlInOhio
When anteaters are outlawed, only outlaws will have anteaters.

LOL!

73 posted on 05/02/2003 11:35:22 AM PDT by valleygal
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To: WKB
They must not have fire ants. Fire ants should be wiped off the planet.
74 posted on 05/02/2003 11:45:58 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: Flurry
It's more fun to kill them with a magnifying glass and the sun.
75 posted on 05/02/2003 11:47:02 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: Charles Martel
Have you ever seen the ants called "Cow Killers"? They are about an inch long and furry.. they scare me.

http://learn.tnaqua.org/amazing/cow_killer.asp
76 posted on 05/02/2003 11:50:26 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: valleygal
Maybe no "law" was passed...Hitler did away with the legislative body...HE became the law. HE was the state. The state showed propaganda films for years to persuade the people that the mentally ill needed to be euthanized because they were a drain on the economy. They actually showed strong animals killing weaker animals to prove their case (it's done in nature, so it's natural to do with humans).

Actually, Hitler did not "do away with" the legislative body. The Reichstag remained after his accession to power, what happened was that it (once the Communists were kicked out of it) ceded certain powers to Hitler to allow him to rule by decree.

As to the Euthanasia films, that would certainly be a fantastic find if true. Unfortunately, for you, the Euthanasia program was kept hushed up for fear of the reaction of the people. When they did find out about it, and stirring condemnations were made from the Catholic Church's pulpits, it was unceremoniously ended. The Nazi's did not trust the people to come to favor Euthanasia, so they didn't tell them about it.

And from what I saw on the History Channel last night, (unlike Saddam) Hitler never wrote anything down. He gave all his orders in person to avoid being connected with what the underlings carried out.

Also not true. Some history books, based on actual German documents, would be a better source of information for you than the History Channel. There are lots and lots of Hitler documents that were "written down" by his two personnel secretaries (Gerda and Claudia, IIRC names correctly). The more thorough historians out there have actually done things like bothering to interview them and look at some of these documents. The Germans are famously bureaucratic, and literally EVERYTHING was seemingly written down in triplicate. I assume what you are referring to is the famously non-existant written order to begin gassing Jews. There is a great debate among historians over this between "Functionalists" and "Intentionalists" IIRC the names of the camps correctly, the one positing the slaughter was a fait accompli that arose from happenstance on the ground in fidelity to perceived wishes of the highest levels - read Hitler and Himmler - (i.e. putting barbarians like Odilio Globocnik and Hans Frank in charge of resettling Jews in Poland), and the second maintaining that secret verbal orders existed.

While such an order has never been found, there are copius records of train transports, expulsion orders, death registers, shipments of Zyklon B gas and Coke for fuel to the camps, registers of personnel items like clothing, money, logs of daily executions by shooting in Russia, etc. There is more than enough there for any careful historian to establish exactly what has happened. Somewhat surprisingly (or maybe not???) much of this material has never really found its way before the public eye in any sort of formal history, just like we are totally bereft of a decent history of important figures like Heinrich Mueller, the Chief of the Gestapo. Way too much focus and facination on Hitler himself, in my opinion, has clouded these other areas.

A "law" may not have been passed but orders were given by ,"the state" to do what Ursus said.

The final proof of such orders still awaits discovery. That's why there is debate over it among historians.

77 posted on 05/02/2003 11:56:55 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: KarlInOhio
That's an AARDVARK, silly, not an anteater! (Maybe it's an "assault aardvark"!)
78 posted on 05/02/2003 11:57:49 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Nowhere Man
"I know, we had the same problem in the neighborhood, everyone seemed to be getting black-ants in their homes. I squashed a few on 'em myself and sometimes the cats would catch them. It's warming up a bit so hopefully they will be gone for a while, so far I haven't seen anymore withing the last week or so. I remember a year or two ago, it was ladybugs that were a problem. "

Put a line of salt in windowsills and doorways and it could help. Salt kills ants and won't hurt your pets. Supposedly they won't even walk through it.
79 posted on 05/02/2003 11:59:09 AM PDT by honeygrl
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To: WKB
Aunts-Yes
Ants-No
Any Questions?
80 posted on 05/02/2003 12:04:01 PM PDT by catpuppy
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