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U.S. Says Canada Cares Too Much About Liberties
Ottawa Citizen ^ | May 1, 2003 | Jim Bronskill

Posted on 05/01/2003 12:41:41 PM PDT by Wolfie

U.S. Says Canada Cares Too Much About Liberties

The United States says the lack of funding for police and restrictive privacy legislation in Canada are frustrating probes of political extremists.

The comments in an annual report on international terrorism were the latest critical remarks from the U.S. apparently aimed at prodding Canada to bring its security measures in line.

The State Department report on global terrorism for 2002 suggests that while Canada has been helpful in the fight against terrorism, it doesn't spend enough on policing and places too much emphasis on civil liberties.

It says "some U.S. law enforcement officers have expressed concern" about Canadian privacy laws.

The U.S. officers feel those laws, as well as funding levels for law enforcement, "inhibit a fuller and more timely exchange of information and response to requests for assistance," the report says.

"Also, Canadian laws and regulations intended to protect Canadian citizens and landed immigrants from government intrusion sometimes limit the depth of investigations."

Under the U.S.-Canada Terrorist Interdiction Program, known as TIP, Canada records about one "hit" of known or suspected terrorists a week from the State Department's visa lookout list. The initiative involves software that enhances the ability of border officials to collect, compare and analyse traveller data, allowing them to identify and track people of interest.

Spokesmen for the Solicitor General's Department were not available to comment on the report.

The U.S. observations come amid heightened tension between the two countries following Washington's public expression of disappointment that Canadian forces did not join the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq.

In releasing the report, U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said although there has been great progress in the last year, terrorism still "casts its grim shadow" across the globe.

The number of terrorist attacks dropped to 199 in 2002 from 355 the previous year. Still, Mr. Powell noted, assaults occurred in every region of the world, claiming 725 lives. Terrorist bombings in Bali last fall killed about 200 people from two dozen countries, including Canada.

Despite the report's criticism of certain Canadian practices, it included effusive praise for the federal government's overall efforts to work with the U.S. in the fight against extrem-ism, calling the relationship "a model for bilateral co-operation on counter-terrorism issues."

Seven American law-enforcement agencies have posted officers to Ottawa and other Canadian cities, while a number of Canadian personnel are assigned to the U.S.

The report also notes Canada's passage of anti-terrorism legislation, its move to create a formal list of terrorist organizations and participation in various international anti-crime forums.

The comments follow State Department remarks in a March report on narcotics and money laundering that urged Canada to ensure privacy protection measures do not prevent the timely sharing of financial information that might be critical to police investigations.

The same report took issue with Canada's move to make possession of small amounts of marijuana a ticketing offence rather than a criminal one. "This will not only harm Canadian society, but have consequences for the United States as well," the report said.

Justice Minister Martin Cauchon reiterated yesterday that legislation to decriminalize marijuana will be tabled soon, while Canadian Alliance Leader Stephen Harper said the move would inflame tensions with the U.S.

"Now would not be the time to irritate trade relations and we've already had plenty of warning that this would do just that."


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: canada

1 posted on 05/01/2003 12:41:41 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
(eyes rolling back in your head)

In Canada, it's a hate crime to read the book of Leviticus in public - but asking an illegal immigrant from Bin Laden's home village a few questions is a violation of "liberty".

No wonder Chretien's in charge.

2 posted on 05/01/2003 12:46:00 PM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: wideawake
In Canada, it's a hate crime to read the book of Leviticus in public

Baloney!

3 posted on 05/01/2003 12:48:27 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Wolfie
The same report took issue with Canada's move to make possession of small amounts of marijuana a ticketing offence rather than a criminal one. "This will not only harm Canadian society, but have consequences for the United States as well," the report said.

Drugs and terrorism, joined at the hip.

4 posted on 05/01/2003 12:50:47 PM PDT by Lysander (My army can kill your army)
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To: Snowyman
Haven't read it, huh?
5 posted on 05/01/2003 12:52:00 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Snowyman
Not baloney. It is considered a hate crime and an assault on gays.
6 posted on 05/01/2003 12:52:58 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Lysander
True enough. Of course, the Feds won't really crack down on the border until weed is decrimmed. Gotta have your priorities straight.
7 posted on 05/01/2003 12:53:15 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Lysander
Drugs and terrorism, joined at the hip.

LOL, Good one.

8 posted on 05/01/2003 12:55:04 PM PDT by Protagoras (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children)
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To: Snowyman
A street preacher in Ottawa, I believe, had a complaint sworn out against him by a homosexual for intimidation on the basis of sexual orientation because he was quoting aloud from said text.
9 posted on 05/01/2003 12:55:51 PM PDT by wideawake (Support our troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Snowyman
Ministers cannot critisize sodomites...its the law
10 posted on 05/01/2003 12:59:42 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Phantom Lord
What part of baloney don't you guys understand. Because Bill 250 , the same law 13 of your states have on the books that includes "sexual orientation" in hate crimes, isn't law in Canada. Anywhere.

And I or anyone can read any part of the bible, in the street, from a roof top, and it's not against the law. Certainly not a hate crime.
11 posted on 05/01/2003 1:04:51 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Snowyman
Bible verses regarded as hate literature Court rules Scripture exposed homosexuals to ridicule

Certain passages of the Bible can be construed as hate literature if placed in a particular context, according to a Canadian provincial court.

The Court of Queen's Bench in Saskatchewan upheld a 2001 ruling by the province's human rights tribunal that fined a man for submitting a newspaper ad that included citations of four Bible verses that address homosexuality.

Ad placed by Christian corrections officer in Saskatoon, Canada, newspaper

A columnist noted in the Edmonton Journal last week that the Dec. 11 ruling generated virtually no news stories and "not a single editorial."

Imagine "the hand-wringing if ever a federal court labeled the Quran hate literature and forced a devout Muslim to pay a fine for printing some of his book's more astringent passages in an ad in a daily newspaper," wrote Lorne Gunter in the Edmonton, Alberta, daily.

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=31080

12 posted on 05/01/2003 1:13:16 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
There were 3 or 4 threads on FR that discussed that case. When someone can show the associated graphics as depicted in the ad , printed in the Bible, then and only then is there a relevant comparison. The Bible also says something about taking verses and using them in an altered way. That's what the ad did.
13 posted on 05/01/2003 1:20:07 PM PDT by Snowyman
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