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Loss Estimates Are Cut on Iraqi Artifacts
The New York Times ^
| 5/1/03
| Alan Riding
Posted on 05/01/2003 3:55:38 AM PDT by windchime
MISSING ANTIQUITIES Loss Estimates Are Cut on Iraqi Artifacts, but Questions Remain By ALAN RIDING
BAGHDAD, Iraq, April 30 Even though many irreplaceable antiquities were looted from the National Museum of Iraq during the chaotic fall of Baghdad last month, museum officials and American investigators now say the losses seem to be less severe than originally thought.
Col. Matthew F. Bogdanos, a Marine reservist who is investigating the looting and is stationed at the museum, said museum officials had given him a list of 29 artifacts that were definitely missing. But since then, 4 items ivory objects from the eighth century B.C. had been traced.
"Twenty-five pieces is not the same as 170,000," said Colonel Bogdanos, who in civilian life is an assistant Manhattan district attorney.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiquities; art; artifact; found; history; iraq; iraqifreedom; looting; missingantiquities; museum; museums; safekeeping; treasure; war
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Looks like Baghdad Bob was conveying the news from the museum.
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posted on
05/01/2003 3:55:39 AM PDT
by
windchime
To: windchime
The fact that the museum staff was trained to stash this stuff is old news. FOX reported it weeks ago. See the Times is still a day late and dollar short, when they bother to report at all...
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:01:11 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: windchime
I don't know if you were on some of the threads about this but this is a stunning change(except for the US bashing). 29 or 170,000 pieces,what's a few zeros when the blame America crowd gets going?
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:08:13 AM PDT
by
MEG33
To: MEG33
TWENTY-NINE? THAT'S ALL?
They could have lost 29 from sloppy record-keeping!
To: windchime
"The difficulty in determining what is missing is compounded by the lack of a master list of the museum's collection."
I read a wonderful Mark Steyn piece earlier in the week. His question to the world was this: "Why was Saddam's evil regime entrusted with this stuff in the first place?"
Here's a link to that piece. It was an excellent read.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/902303/posts
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:12:10 AM PDT
by
dawn53
To: MEG33
"I don't know if you were on some of the threads about this but this is a stunning change(except for the US bashing). 29 or 170,000 pieces,what's a few zeros when the blame America crowd gets going?"
That's exactly why it was worth reporting. They've even traced 4 items dropping the total to 25.
Yes, I have been following the wailing, hand wringing AND US blaming. This little list just removed ammo from our opponents.
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:22:12 AM PDT
by
windchime
To: windchime
Journalism be damned!
We've got a quagmire to find!
There was no plan to protect artifacts!
We don't need no steeenkin' facts!
We distort, you decide!
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:25:13 AM PDT
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
To: Lauratealeaf
You are going to love this museum update.Unbelievable!
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:27:44 AM PDT
by
MEG33
To: dawn53
Dawn, thank you! I usually read Steyn, but had missed this one. One of his best!
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:34:04 AM PDT
by
windchime
To: Greybird
This will interest you about artifact looting.Good news
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:41:34 AM PDT
by
MEG33
To: Oldeconomybuyer
That's good!:)
To: windchime
29!!!! LOL! Well, let's see if this story gets as much play as the 170,000 number generated by the liberal Magic 8 Ball.
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posted on
05/01/2003 4:49:20 AM PDT
by
livius
(Let slip the cats of conjecture.)
To: livius
"Well, let's see if this story gets as much play as the 170,000 number generated by the liberal Magic 8 Ball."
Not a chance. Doesn't fit the agenda.
To: Oldeconomybuyer
This is now known: @25 objects missing, a untold number
damaged.
Can you say INSIDE JOB- they were party loyalists
that were incharge of the museum.
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posted on
05/01/2003 5:02:25 AM PDT
by
mj1234
To: windchime
There are MANY more than 29 stolen artworks hanging in the Louvre, thanks to Napoleon.
To: windchime
I just want facts 'Mam, just the facts.
That's the facts on the artifacts.
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posted on
05/01/2003 5:36:01 AM PDT
by
azhenfud
To: Miss Marple
TWENTY-NINE? THAT'S ALL? They could have lost 29 from sloppy record-keeping!Ahhhh . . . but then the leftist propogandist-jackals wouldn't have been able to blame us war-mongers, huh?
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posted on
05/01/2003 5:45:32 AM PDT
by
geedee
(We Americans... bear the ark of liberties of the world.)
To: geedee
Now only twenty-five pieces actually missing. Isn't that fewer than what was missing at the White House after Hill/Billy exited?
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posted on
05/01/2003 6:15:32 AM PDT
by
hoosiermama
(Prayers for all)
To: hoosiermama
Now only twenty-five pieces actually missing. Isn't that fewer than what was missing at the White House after Hill/Billy exited? Good Point!!!!!
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posted on
05/01/2003 6:27:06 AM PDT
by
geedee
(We Americans... bear the ark of liberties of the world.)
To: Miss Marple
They could have lost 29 from sloppy record-keeping!
And there were those on this thread who felt our soldiers should be put in harm's way to rescue 29 items...pathetic!!!
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posted on
05/01/2003 6:40:41 AM PDT
by
mass55th
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