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Mysterious Decline - Where are the Men on Campus?
The American Daily ^ | April 30, 2003 | Glenn Sacks

Posted on 04/30/2003 3:51:39 PM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: BeAllYouCanBe
My wife is a teacher and she confirms that the Bill Gates of the future are all being put on Ritalin.

Are the parents required to put them on Ritalin? What happens if they don't?

I am just wondering how a parent could do this to their child! That's terrible!

41 posted on 04/30/2003 6:18:13 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
"In the old days when I was in college 1970 the lefties preached the "end of the world" by way of environmentalism. The book "The Population Bomb" was required reading in about 5 of my classes. If you even hinted that the earth maybe able to handle more than 2 billion people you were ejected from class."

I remember reading that in college in the 70's! Weren't we supposed to run out of food and be killing each other off by the 90's? Funny how they wanted western culture to limit family size but they never criticize 3rd-world nations for too many kids. As for the future, it will be a little like the Time Machine story, except the split into two cultures will be men doing all the physical work and women running everything (sorta like my house now).

42 posted on 04/30/2003 6:20:12 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: BamaGirl
"I am just wondering how a parent could do this to their child! "

My kids went to school in the 80's and my son who is now in Iraq in the Army in the infantry was singled out as a problem.

We worked through the bad years and he got better. When he was 19 he went into the Army and his aggressive nature has found a home.

If you put your kids on Ritalin that bars them from the military -- forever. The Army knows what Ritalin does -- it makes kids docile and mellow and that ain't always good.
43 posted on 04/30/2003 6:35:06 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Maybe this "Army Of One" is a good thing - You Gotta Admire the 3rd Infantry Accomplishments)
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To: roadcat
"limit family size but they never criticize 3rd-world nations for too many kids"

India did this BUT as you suggest the Muslims there didn't and now they are the fastesrt growing segment of the population.

I have read that Denmark will have a Muslim majority in 2040. I call it death by Political Correctness.

44 posted on 04/30/2003 6:43:10 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Maybe this "Army Of One" is a good thing - You Gotta Admire the 3rd Infantry Accomplishments)
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To: Lando Lincoln
"What does it mean in the long run that we have females who are significantly more literate, significantly more educated than their male counterparts?

What it's going to mean is that college is going to become less and less significant in career success. It is becoming more and more true that going to college does not make one more literate and educated.

45 posted on 04/30/2003 6:46:10 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: John123
Isn't going to college really delaying your adult life?

I have a "dropped out of college" son who could not put up with the "core" curiculum of Black & Women studies when he wanted to get on with learning something about computers that he didn't already know (he was on the internet at age 7; before www, when it was all text, Gopher searches, Seadog mail, etc.) Without college, he is the IT Director of his company, earning almost as much as me (a Structural Engineer).

College seems to have turned into 4 years of boozing for the guys and the first step in 12 years of college for the girls. My son has hired 2 PhD females to work for him and swears they will be productive as soon as he trains them. Their degrees seemed to have missed educating them to get something done and concentrated on the theoretical which is not marketable.

Similarly, my neice has a MS in Horticulture but is not interested in working in the field, just interested it teaching horticulture. ???

Beyond me!

46 posted on 04/30/2003 7:06:57 PM PDT by leadhead
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
... my son who is now in Iraq in the Army...

God bless your son and you and the rest of your family!

We worked through the bad years and he got better. When he was 19 he went into the Army and his aggressive nature has found a home.

Wow! You mean you actually spent time and effort on your son instead of popping a pill or some other easy solution! <\sarcasm off> :D

If you put your kids on Ritalin that bars them from the military -- forever. The Army knows what Ritalin does -- it makes kids docile and mellow and that ain't always good.

That's interesting, I did not know that Ritalin has permanent effects. That's so scary.

47 posted on 04/30/2003 7:07:52 PM PDT by BamaGirl
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To: templar
Correct answer. They are in jail.
48 posted on 04/30/2003 7:11:53 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Charliehorse
Engineering, Computer Science, Physics,etc that can be used to get a job are all dominated by men.

Have you checked the computer science enrollments lately? Seems like we see at least as many women CS grads as men. While men still dominate those other fields, the dominance is no where near as total as it once was.

The pre-college teaching field is still dominated by women, especially at the elementry level. These days many states do not allow for an "education major" so all those women are majoring in something else, often physcology or sociology, but sometimes art or literature or languages, even though their intent is to become teachers, not to work in those fields, and this skews the numbers somewhat. I believe most law schools are majority women, or "too close to call", as are med schools. I know the of the 3 or 4 student doctors that I saw along with the teacher doctor who was treating me around Christmas time, only one was male.

As a father of two daughters, it does bother me that the men these college girls often socialise with are not of the quality one would want for a future son in law, many of the same aged, or slightly older, men are either indifferent part time students, or not students at all, and not college graduates either, neither are they skilled tradesmen, many of which are brighter than these loosers, who seem more or less content to just drift along in low paying, burgher flipping type jobs. Engineers, chemists and others of that ilk, are perceived as "too geeky", even though they are intellectually much better matches for the women, at least for MY DAUGHTER, they are!! (My other daughter is married off already, to a lawyer, but then she's a lawyer herself, so I guess that's OK. :)

49 posted on 04/30/2003 7:16:09 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: roadcat
I remember reading that in college in the 70's! Weren't we supposed to run out of food and be killing each other off by the 90's?

IIRC, back in the '70s we were being warned by the left that we were headed into a second "ice age" because of all the freon escaping into the air...

50 posted on 04/30/2003 7:18:52 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Destroy the Elitist Democrat Guard and the Fedayeen Clinton using the smart bombs of truth!)
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To: JNB
Hoo boy...let me gush about my college time. I did get lousy grades because of my poor attitudes and because I refused to gush about how great homosexuality was. Add to that the forced class titled "Marxist Theory: Thought and Reasoning" which was mandatory for my major(English Language Literature. When people describe universities as cesspools of liberal thought, there should be a picture of my alma mater for reference.

And sure, more women on campus sounds like a good thing, till you realize they are more like Chelsea Clinton than Jenna Bush, and far more likely to be same sex oriented.
51 posted on 04/30/2003 7:20:32 PM PDT by Sharpshot613
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Bill Gates of the future are all being put on Ritalin

Considering the performance of MicroSloth products, maybe he was too, or should have been. They cost too, much, are too slow, and they are buggy as all get out. I don't know anyone who's not having some sort or the other of inexplicable problems with their Windows PCs, most of which don't seem to be hardware related.

52 posted on 04/30/2003 7:23:58 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: JNB
I think you are correct, with the economic trends the way they are a male can find ways to 40k (possibly working tow jobs) which doesn't leave much time for college.

And the secret is, unless you are going into a techincal profession clooege really won't help your earning power that much.

53 posted on 04/30/2003 7:23:59 PM PDT by ewing
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To: Pikachu_Dad
An equally good and perhaps more pressing question would be: Where are all the minority male voters going? The gender ratio in minority districts in Louisiana approaches a 10% gap.
54 posted on 04/30/2003 7:25:06 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad
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To: Lando Lincoln
The problem is a complex one, but a fundamental reason behind the phenomena is that modern K-12 education is not suited to boys' needs and learning styles. Success in school is tightly correlated with the ability to sit still, be quiet, and complete work that is presented in a dull, assembly line fashion.

Another victory of feminazism.

55 posted on 04/30/2003 7:28:13 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: John123
Isn't going to college really delaying your adult life?

Depends on your major. Most in the hard sciences and engineering, male and female, work their tails off in college, and you need at least a bachelors, and preferably a MS or even PhD, to even be able to work in those fields, and by "be able to work" I mean be able to do the work, not just get the job.

56 posted on 04/30/2003 7:29:25 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Charliehorse
It would be much better if for some people to become plumbers, carpenters, etc and go into business for themselves and become rich rather than get a useless liberal arts degree.

For some or maybe for many, yes it would be better. But a true liberal arts education has great value in itself.

57 posted on 04/30/2003 7:35:09 PM PDT by A. Pole
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
it makes kids docile and mellow and that ain't always good.

I'd venture to say it's never good. Being docile and especially mellow by nature can be OK, alhough it has it's problems as does being aggressive and assertive, but artificially induced it's nothing but problems.

In a few, probably very rare cases, a kids bad behavior, or perceived bad behavior, can actually be traced to something physically amiss. But in those cases the solution is to fix the problem, say via food supplements, surgery, or whatever, not mask it over by doping the kid up for years. Anyway, plain old strong coffe, works about as well with many of the kids. Ritalin is related to speed (methamphetamine) so it's really an uppper for most people, but not for some. For them, coffee can work pretty well, without the nasty long term side effects. The first year my wife taught (or maybe the second, it was a long time ago) she had a kid like that, but it was the kids private doctor that suggested the coffee, not the school nurse or pychologist. (they didn't one of the latter). The kid brought big thermos to school every day, and if starting gettnig hyper, he'd be pulled out for a few minutes for a cup of coffee, and then he'd be fine again. Well as fine as the little guy ever got, which wasn't so very bad. (I went on a couple of their field trips, so I got to see him in action as it were.)

58 posted on 04/30/2003 7:38:49 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Lando Lincoln
"This is a powerful issue we need to stop talking about in generalities and really dig into," says Michael L. Lomax, president of Dillard University in New Orleans. "We just can't figure out how to get more male applicants, and we're not going to turn students down on the basis on gender," Lomax says. "I don't understand what is happening in the male community that is making education seem less attractive and less compelling."

Male community? How brain dead is this? WTF is the male community? 

making education seem less attractive and less compelling."

Attractive and compelling? Bizarre words to describe education. This man is a feminized slob.

59 posted on 04/30/2003 7:42:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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