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Racial insults may be wiped off map: North Carolina place names
Raliegh News-Observer ^ | April 30, 2003 | LYNN BONNER

Posted on 04/30/2003 6:49:24 AM PDT by berserker

Racially charged place names dot the map of North Carolina. A bill would require counties to find replacements

The names are jarring: Niggerskull Mountain, Nigger Head, Nigger Spring.

An effort is under way in the General Assembly to wipe from North Carolina's map those names and others using the racial epithet. "We want to get these off the record," said Rep. Alma Adams, a Greensboro Democrat. A bill Adams sponsored would require county commissioners to devise replacements by July 1 and send them to Secretary of State Elaine Marshall. Marshall would work with registrars of deeds, tax officials and planning officials to change the names.

The bill is headed for a vote of the full House after its unanimous endorsement from the House State Government Committee on Tuesday.

"I'm surprised, really, that this wasn't done before -- that this would still exist in our state," said Rep. Joni Bowie, a Greensboro Republican.

Six of the seven places listed in the bill with names containing the racial epithet are in Western North Carolina. All are listed in "The North Carolina Gazetteer," a definitive list of places and geographic features. Included in the bill are names for mountains in Haywood, Jackson and Clay counties, a spring in Haywood County, creeks in Union and Jackson counties and a bay in Currituck County.

Richard Starnes, an assistant professor of history at Western Carolina University who grew up in Asheville, said he has heard a mountain near his hometown called by its objectionable name as long as he can remember. Such names are probably found most often in western counties because the black population in there is small, he said.

"We have the lowest per capita amount of black folks in this part of the world," he said. "There was less pressure. To have something like that in Durham would be a lot different in terms of social and political names."

Public officials should move to change those names, he said, although the new monikers might not stick, at first.

"It's one of these difficult kinds of things to change from the top down," he said. "But I think for public officials to allow those kinds of place names to remain, then they're culpable in continuing the cycle of using derogatory labels for groups and citizens."

The move to change the North Carolina names comes as American Indians in the Western United States are pushing to rename mountains and creeks called "squaw." Squaw is a derogatory term for a woman in some Native American languages.

A high school in Buncombe County stopped calling women's sports teams the Squaws a few years ago, as a result of American Indians' objections. The athletes are now Lady Warriors.

Rep. Phil Haire, a Democrat who represents Haywood, Jackson and several other mountain counties, said he had not heard that people were offended by the names. "It's just what it's always been," he said. "I don't know that people consider it offensive or not offensive."

Even though some of the names are so established that they appear on maps, others may have fallen out of use. Rep. Rex Baker said he saw a map of Mount Jefferson State Park with one of the mountain names covered.

Bill D. Noland, the Haywood County commissioners' chairman, said he had never heard of an offensively named spring that is supposed to be in Haywood. And S. Paul O'Neal, commissioners' chairman in Currituck, said he had never heard of a similarly named bay in his county.

"I've never heard of it, and I live right on the sound," he said. "But if there are places with names such as that, then they certainly should not continue with that name. I would hope that we've moved beyond that."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: geography; northcarolina; oldnorthstate
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To: samanella
What about the French Broad River in NC since everyone is sick of the French? Or Big Ugly, WV, which is not PC for the comely-impaired folk? Or Intercourse, AL? Or Young Harris, GA? The old folks will get ticked off at that.....

You got here too late...

81 posted on 04/30/2003 4:07:35 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: TaxRelief
They were joking.

DUH! Ya think?

82 posted on 04/30/2003 4:08:20 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: berserker
It sounds like someone in the legislature has alot of spare time on their hands. This is one of the dumbest things I have heard in quite awhile.
83 posted on 04/30/2003 5:44:06 PM PDT by dstarr
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To: berserker
We have a street here in my town that has an offense name. I am going to start a drive to get it renamed and the offense name taken off all of the maps. What is the street name?

CLINTON
84 posted on 04/30/2003 5:49:11 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Howlin
Hey, did they rename "Hymietown" yet?
85 posted on 04/30/2003 5:51:00 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Get out. Go sleep with one of your whores!")
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To: george wythe
Chris Rock, comedian and actor:

No, white people can't say "nigger," but you can sing all the rap songs.


He does hold the world record for number of times using the designation "cracker".
86 posted on 04/30/2003 6:20:46 PM PDT by visualops ("To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them..." -George Mason)
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To: berserker
The State of Virginia was named for "The Virgin Queen", Elizabeth I. My goodness, someone might think of sex when they say the name "Virginia". (/sarcasm)
87 posted on 04/30/2003 6:28:01 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Ciexyz
Remember the candy from the the 50's and 60's called "Nigger babies", little licorice pieces? How un-PC. But as kids, we didn't think anything was wrong with it.
88 posted on 04/30/2003 6:32:27 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: stands2reason
Keep in mind that until around the thirties, the n-word was not considered a slur...and it was no more controversial than 'black' is today.

Times change.
30 years ago I used to be gay....
Now I have to be sure to use the word 'happy'.

89 posted on 04/30/2003 6:41:49 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
I'm still gay.
90 posted on 04/30/2003 6:42:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
I'm 'happy' for you.
(guys have got to be more careful)
91 posted on 04/30/2003 6:44:04 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: eddie willers
Speaking of things changing, I was really relieved today to learn from the PC police that "senior citizen" is now passe. :-)
92 posted on 04/30/2003 6:46:10 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
So we can go back to 'wrinkled old fart'?
93 posted on 04/30/2003 6:47:10 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: berserker
If I could find the E-Mail address for "The entertainer formerly known as Prince," I would ask him what he thinks of all this.
94 posted on 04/30/2003 6:56:50 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: stands2reason; Howlin
DUH! Ya think?

As an experiment, for the next two months,
I am going to mark certain freepers "snappy" days on a calendar
to see if I can detect any sort of pattern.

Hmm...I wonder...

95 posted on 04/30/2003 7:13:31 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: Brad Cloven
Don't know - I live here, there, in Whiteville.
96 posted on 04/30/2003 8:17:50 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: stainlessbanner
All of that town's residents are scheduled to move to Climax, MI very soon!
97 posted on 05/01/2003 5:35:00 AM PDT by CSM
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To: Carolinamom
Todd, NC. I mean, excuse me...isn't that just a bit too yuppie and "white"? I mean, would a black person feel welcome there? I don't think so. And Cherokee! Named after a native tribe! I mean, come ON!

The idiots have taken over the asylum.

98 posted on 05/01/2003 7:11:11 AM PDT by Adder
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To: stainlessbanner
& maidenhead, PA too.

Free dixie,sw

99 posted on 05/01/2003 9:06:01 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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To: ladyinred
that one is REALLY offensive!

FRee dixie,sw

100 posted on 05/01/2003 9:09:11 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. : Thomas Jefferson 1774)
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